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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    There is no advantage really. If lucky you can have a repeat with 7 numbers or 8 and break even.

    Obviously, it starts cheap. But if those larger group keep hitting then the stream starts getting bigger to find that repeat.

    The other way is the non-hits, but this is dearer at the start but gets cheaper with less to bet.

    Is it better to bet for the repeat of the hit once or better to have the non-hit.

    Now I said before, the DSA posted 10’330 live spins. This showed non-hits average to hit in 9-7-5-3. So, the other side is repeats, 1-3-5-7.

    Just using 1st 20 spins. It says 4 repeats from 16 numbers. Does spin 1-2-3 really have the advantage of starting the next lap. Perhaps the repeat comes from positions 4-5-6-7-8-9.

    But the larger group gets you to spin 20.

    I’ll leave it here as 2 methods are being discussed, will only confuse some.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    upload_2022-8-29_9-11-18.png
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    ND 1st image, repeat is from position 9, then position 1
    The second image 1st 3 no advantage.
    So, to some riddler fans to0 many numbers.
    upload_2022-8-29_9-19-18.png
    upload_2022-8-29_9-19-40.png
    If you can follow the stream you can make profit.
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    10 repeats. How many expected for 30 spins? 1-3-5=9. 7 repeats for 30 spins; -2 to the average.
     
  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    early days. no loss, just following the stream.
    upload_2022-8-29_9-27-27.png
     
  4. KarlAtwo

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    So if you have figured it out. If you are willing to answer just these 2 questions:

    A. Can you win flat bet because like T said this should work, and all my test are done on flat betting only.

    B. Yes we always have repeaters, totally agree. Those defined parameters do they have clear rules. Meaning if x happens do y. Or is it more a "gut" feeling like how naughty but nice plays.
     
  5. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    It's not playing to a gut feeling; it's knowing repeats hit 1-3-5-7 @ 40 spins.
    upload_2022-8-29_10-0-5.png
    Look how many of the 10; Vaddi would win
     
  6. KarlAtwo

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    Ok sorry, I thought you were playing that because you go all over the place in your posts.

    So 1 3 5 7 in 40 spins, you mean hits?
     
  7. Denzie

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    Yes , in blocks of 10 spins ... so far I'm following too lol.... the rest I'm having a hard time understanding him :banghead:
     

  8. Naughty but nice

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    Karl, this was for a reply to post 1434.
    About positions.
    All laps want to get to position 37.
    upload_2022-8-29_14-30-59.png
    Look at matches for both T3&T9.
    T3 has filled 17 places and matched 9. T9 has filled 44 places and matched 33.
    R5 has 3 places left to fill, will it be from matches R4, #'s 10-5-6-29. If you look it has matched 5. Or will it come from
    positions R4, 10-37.
    For R4 to fill last 3 of R5, it needs the 4 mentioned, but will R4 grow and go on to fill R5. At the moment you could bet the 5
    numbers of R4; but you wouldn't want to drop R5. So, 11 numbers maybe.
     
  9. Naughty but nice

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    Okay nothing to do with above; but still going for repeats.
    It was a good stream as want to know how far/spins could go before a profit.
    upload_2022-8-29_14-45-39.png
    With only 12 repeats in 40 spins is there an advantage for repeats.
    Please note been trying different approaches for repeats on R-sim for weeks now, more often than not the stream favours
    non-hits first, but by 60th spin repeats catch up, near to 30/30
     
  10. KarlAtwo

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    I still dont understand the idea behind all of this, but Ill give it a go:

    First things first.

    1 3 5 7 in blocks of 10. I'll program that first.
     
  11. Naughty but nice

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    Karl; all it is, is use the average, be it non-hit 9-7-5-3 or repeats 1-3-5-7.
    If you see to many repeats, then the non-hit need to catch up. Vice a verser.
    Even the Chief says you don't have to bet.
    Just watch and make your decision. As simple as that.
     
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    Karl for the brain dead; I hope.
    upload_2022-8-29_15-54-56.png
    No repeat in 1st 10 numbers, 4 repeats by 20th spin. Repeats are on time.
     
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    disaster for repeats. only 6, -3 to the average. Did say up above R-sim likes the non-hit.
     
  14. Naughty but nice

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    upload_2022-8-29_16-1-20.png
    Profit from a shite start.
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    15 repeats; -1 @40 spins.
    Job done.
     

  15. KarlAtwo

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    Ok I get the 1 3 5 7 for the repeaters.

    But how does the 9 7 5 3 work for the non repeaters?

    in the first 10 spins we have way more than 9?
     
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    So, you see the 1-3-5-7. The otherside is the non-hits, 9-7-5-3.
    Do you know of Priyanka?
     
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    upload_2022-8-29_19-57-2.png This is the checkpoints for non-hits. We or I know the average for non-hits
    are 9-7-5-3 @ 40 spins.
    What we are saying; is spins 1-10 usually has 9 non-hit.
    Then 11-20; 7 of the remaining non-hits show.
    Then 21-30; 5 of the remaining non-hits show.
    Then 31-40; 3 of the remaining non-hits show.
    That should have 24 of the starting 37 to have shown.
    Here's the but. If spins 11-40, 30 spins has 7-5-3=15 non-hits; then the other 15 must be repeats.
    So instead of 9-7-5-3; should it not be an even 9-5-5-5; still 24.
    The checkpoints 11-40 works on 5 of each hitting in the respective blocks of 10.
    Now; if you have the usual 9 non-hits in 1-10.
    You add 9+15=24; so we expect 24 of the starting 37 to show by 40th spin.
    Say 2 repeats in 1-10; 8+15=23.
    Hope you get it.
     
  18. Naughty but nice

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    Here are 1st 60 spins from Rheti's table 4 for 29/8/22
    Have no idea on what happens.
    Be back soon one way or the other.
     
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    upload_2022-8-29_20-11-26.png
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    So, conveinent that it has 2 repeats. 8+15=23. 31-40 shows 24, +1.
    16 of the remaining non-hit, came over spins 11-40.
    Now Priyanka liked the idea of winning 50 units.
    For the DSA; the KFC wins at spin 20. No need to carry on, just go to another wheel
    or wait 60 spins.
    11-20 instaed of the known 7, it gave 8. So, if 5 is an even distribution, 8 means 3 extra, so, +3.
    At 21-30 expect 10 non-hits and 10 repeats, thats 5-5, of the even 5-5-5. So, instead of 10, +0; we have 13, +3
    And we was expecting the even distribution of 5-5-5 but 16 non-hits showed, +1

    The 60 spins ended 28; must been 32 repeats.

    As Winkle says the larger group start; then like Turbo's video, the non-hits deplete. Less and less to hit.
     
  20. Naughty but nice

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    Karl do you get the 9-7-5-3
     

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