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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. KarlAtwo

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    Thats not the point the point is I coded everything turbo said. And at some threads he excatly said what had to be done to get an edge. (betting last of something) I calculated it and his math was wrong. Clear and simple. Never an answer of him ofcourse because that was not his style...
     
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  2. KarlAtwo

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    This has already been tested years ago and multiple variations of it. Its the same as random...
     
  3. HAL

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    The concept of Turbo works because of random, wrap your head about that for a while!
    Most of the members that tried to code this concept fail and some members with years of (b&m) roulette experience know enough to get this concept working to a degree to make profit. If you code you just don’t see what happens along the way. Once you understand the concept you don’t need to code.
     
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  4. Chrono

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    I suspect the ones that succeeded had a bug in their code.

    I don't understand the not revealing it thing. Roulette is a sure thing for the casino, they're not going to change any aspects of it as far as this topic is concerned. Changing it would turn people off from playing and its such a money maker for them they won't want to do it.

    All I ever see here is look what I have, you don't have it! It just seems childish. There's been no talk of concepts or mechanisms here. Just bragging and dangling a carrot on a stick
     
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  5. HAL

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    The ones that succeed don’t code.
     
  6. KarlAtwo

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    The horse race is nothing more than a categorization of random events (spins). It in it self will not differ from random. Meaning stopping starting from A to B Switching From A to B etc etc will not differ from random. Again many times tested by many of others. So we can all agree that at some point this will not work.

    So you speak of a concept that needs no coding:

    But this concept has rules has it not. If x happens do y.
     
  7. KarlAtwo

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    Dont forget that a lot of people THINK they have it all figured out. It doesnt mean that they actually have, yes they talk the talk because they believe they know how to walk...
     
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  8. Chrono

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    Yeah that was exactly my point. They think they have it, but they don't.

    It's awfully suspicious there's a high number of people here that "have it" but won't reveal it. They only reveal the "hints".

    Do I think it's impossible? I don't know, I'm open minded. Am I going to listen to bullshit? No.

    At some point you have to realize that certain people enjoy holding their perceived advantage over others, and not play their game.
     
  9. HAL

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    What did you calculate?
     
  10. KarlAtwo

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    this

    A number with an extreme high average will HAVE to have many appearances
    below 37 spins in order to offset the extreme first appearance.


    This is just not true.
     
  11. Yoigo

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    The average for 70 shots is 6 to 7 repetitions.
    I'll leave it there if you can't win, you better play chess.
     
  12. Gigi666

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    Exactly this. Been saying this too for a long time. How a handful of people winning (and we know, assuming that those that say they win consistently, that none of them play the same way exactly) would make casinos change the rules of the game. It's simply not going to happen.
    Even if ie. @Nimo would share it step by step without money mgm, I bet most would lose or spin off their own version anyway.
    I can understand if a promise was made to not share in full, but one of you could share more, I'm sure some have emails here of those long standing members and it could be shared or parts of it between us, in confidence that we don't reveal it.
    I know last thing anyone wants to see here is someone coding it and selling as their own.
     
  13. Yoigo

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    Hola Gigi666, con el sistema Gut paso que alguien se apodero de ese sistema e hizo un programa ,el cual tengo y lo uso para los repetidores, con esta forma de jugar Turbogenius te seguro que pasaria lo mismo y esta forma de jugar repetidores es 100 veces mas efectiva que Gut.
    Nimo con 1 post lo dice casi todo, solo hay que observar que pasa.
     
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    Your buddy Chrono talks about goalposts constantly being moved, well here you moved it too far. We have talked about this a while a go. We had this conversation already, even after 380000 spins it cannot go below 37 because it never went under 37. That’s why it will always be something like 37.000005.
    You also mentioned betting the last of something see post #1829! Elaborate if you can?
     

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    Last sentence, observe what happens! Don’t code it.
     
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    Here's 100 cycles, show me where numbers that are over due 'catch up' and become repeaters. It shows the hit rates of all numbers as they come up. Numbers from random.org

    Don't code it? Why not? So you can't analyze large volumes of data all at once? We can create visualizations of more than just a bankroll graph you know.
     

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  17. Chrono

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    A trend would reveal itself in data viewed this way.

    If this is the wrong way to view the data, then HOW should I look at the data?

    Not some cryptic read, and read it again thing. At least Turbo provided a horserace - which is a histogram by the way - and a methodology in which his system worked.

    Another set of 100 cycles. Open the pic, right click view in another tab and you'll get the full resolution.

    What are we trying to observe HAL & others ? Specifically, what's there to observe?

    Well maybe we're just not thinking hard enough if we can't figure out what we're supposed to observe. You see how this all looks like smoke and mirrors?

    If you open this picture, and close it after 5 seconds because you can't comprehend it - or it's too much work to look at - and then tell us something like "do the work, and OBSERVE".... Well that just speaks volumes doesn't it?

    And you'll be the only one to know that I was right about your reaction.
     

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    With proper progression you can win!
     
  19. Gigi666

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    I've observed thousand times and clearly missing something or maybe had it but hit variance and moved on thinking it wasn't it.
     
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    Here's a 324 step single number progression that can't win.

    I set it to only recover the inital loss. Set to table max of 500. Starts on the min bet of $0.1 and increments up by the minimum bet amount of $0.1.

    Here everyone goes. Free of (madness) charge.

    See? Nothing cryptic, no secrets, no fucking riddles. If all it takes is a progression then you can all have it. Now everyone is a guaranteed winner.

    Develop a better one, I dare you.

    {0: 0.1,
    1: 0.1,
    2: 0.1,
    3: 0.1,
    4: 0.1,
    5: 0.1,
    6: 0.1,
    7: 0.1,
    8: 0.1,
    9: 0.1,
    10: 0.1,
    11: 0.1,
    12: 0.1,
    13: 0.1,
    14: 0.1,
    15: 0.1,
    16: 0.1,
    17: 0.1,
    18: 0.1,
    19: 0.1,
    20: 0.1,
    21: 0.1,
    22: 0.1,
    23: 0.1,
    24: 0.1,
    25: 0.1,
    26: 0.1,
    27: 0.1,
    28: 0.1,
    29: 0.1,
    30: 0.1,
    31: 0.1,
    32: 0.1,
    33: 0.1,
    34: 0.1,
    35: 0.1,
    36: 0.2,
    37: 0.2,
    38: 0.2,
    39: 0.2,
    40: 0.2,
    41: 0.2,
    42: 0.2,
    43: 0.2,
    44: 0.2,
    45: 0.2,
    46: 0.2,
    47: 0.2,
    48: 0.2,
    49: 0.2,
    50: 0.2,
    51: 0.2,
    52: 0.2,
    53: 0.2,
    54: 0.3,
    55: 0.3,
    56: 0.3,
    57: 0.3,
    58: 0.3,
    59: 0.3,
    60: 0.3,
    61: 0.3,
    62: 0.3,
    63: 0.3,
    64: 0.3,
    65: 0.3,
    66: 0.4,
    67: 0.4,
    68: 0.4,
    69: 0.4,
    70: 0.4,
    71: 0.4,
    72: 0.4,
    73: 0.4,
    74: 0.4,
    75: 0.5,
    76: 0.5,
    77: 0.5,
    78: 0.5,
    79: 0.5,
    80: 0.5,
    81: 0.5,
    82: 0.6,
    83: 0.6,
    84: 0.6,
    85: 0.6,
    86: 0.6,
    87: 0.6,
    88: 0.7,
    89: 0.7,
    90: 0.7,
    91: 0.7,
    92: 0.7,
    93: 0.8,
    94: 0.8,
    95: 0.8,
    96: 0.8,
    97: 0.9,
    98: 0.9,
    99: 0.9,
    100: 0.9,
    101: 1.0,
    102: 1.0,
    103: 1.0,
    104: 1.0,
    105: 1.1,
    106: 1.1,
    107: 1.1,
    108: 1.2,
    109: 1.2,
    110: 1.2,
    111: 1.3,
    112: 1.3,
    113: 1.3,
    114: 1.4,
    115: 1.4,
    116: 1.5,
    117: 1.5,
    118: 1.5,
    119: 1.6,
    120: 1.6,
    121: 1.7,
    122: 1.7,
    123: 1.8,
    124: 1.8,
    125: 1.9,
    126: 1.9,
    127: 2.0,
    128: 2.0,
    129: 2.1,
    130: 2.2,
    131: 2.2,
    132: 2.3,
    133: 2.4,
    134: 2.4,
    135: 2.5,
    136: 2.6,
    137: 2.6,
    138: 2.7,
    139: 2.8,
    140: 2.9,
    141: 3.0,
    142: 3.0,
    143: 3.1,
    144: 3.2,
    145: 3.3,
    146: 3.4,
    147: 3.5,
    148: 3.6,
    149: 3.7,
    150: 3.8,
    151: 3.9,
    152: 4.0,
    153: 4.1,
    154: 4.3,
    155: 4.4,
    156: 4.5,
    157: 4.6,
    158: 4.8,
    159: 4.9,
    160: 5.0,
    161: 5.2,
    162: 5.3,
    163: 5.5,
    164: 5.6,
    165: 5.8,
    166: 6.0,
    167: 6.1,
    168: 6.3,
    169: 6.5,
    170: 6.7,
    171: 6.9,
    172: 7.1,
    173: 7.3,
    174: 7.5,
    175: 7.7,
    176: 7.9,
    177: 8.1,
    178: 8.4,
    179: 8.6,
    180: 8.9,
    181: 9.1,
    182: 9.4,
    183: 9.6,
    184: 9.9,
    185: 10.2,
    186: 10.5,
    187: 10.8,
    188: 11.1,
    189: 11.4,
    190: 11.7,
    191: 12.1,
    192: 12.4,
    193: 12.8,
    194: 13.1,
    195: 13.5,
    196: 13.9,
    197: 14.3,
    198: 14.7,
    199: 15.1,
    200: 15.6,
    201: 16.0,
    202: 16.5,
    203: 16.9,
    204: 17.4,
    205: 17.9,
    206: 18.4,
    207: 18.9,
    208: 19.5,
    209: 20.0,
    210: 20.6,
    211: 21.2,
    212: 21.8,
    213: 22.4,
    214: 23.1,
    215: 23.7,
    216: 24.4,
    217: 25.1,
    218: 25.8,
    219: 26.6,
    220: 27.3,
    221: 28.1,
    222: 28.9,
    223: 29.7,
    224: 30.6,
    225: 31.5,
    226: 32.4,
    227: 33.3,
    228: 34.2,
    229: 35.2,
    230: 36.2,
    231: 37.2,
    232: 38.3,
    233: 39.4,
    234: 40.5,
    235: 41.7,
    236: 42.9,
    237: 44.1,
    238: 45.4,
    239: 46.7,
    240: 48.0,
    241: 49.4,
    242: 50.8,
    243: 52.2,
    244: 53.7,
    245: 55.3,
    246: 56.8,
    247: 58.5,
    248: 60.1,
    249: 61.8,
    250: 63.6,
    251: 65.4,
    252: 67.3,
    253: 69.2,
    254: 71.2,
    255: 73.2,
    256: 75.3,
    257: 77.5,
    258: 79.7,
    259: 82.0,
    260: 84.3,
    261: 86.7,
    262: 89.2,
    263: 91.7,
    264: 94.4,
    265: 97.1,
    266: 99.8,
    267: 102.7,
    268: 105.6,
    269: 108.6,
    270: 111.7,
    271: 114.9,
    272: 118.2,
    273: 121.6,
    274: 125.1,
    275: 128.6,
    276: 132.3,
    277: 136.1,
    278: 140.0,
    279: 144.0,
    280: 148.1,
    281: 152.3,
    282: 156.7,
    283: 161.2,
    284: 165.8,
    285: 170.5,
    286: 175.4,
    287: 180.4,
    288: 185.5,
    289: 190.8,
    290: 196.3,
    291: 201.9,
    292: 207.7,
    293: 213.6,
    294: 219.7,
    295: 226.0,
    296: 232.4,
    297: 239.1,
    298: 245.9,
    299: 252.9,
    300: 260.1,
    301: 267.6,
    302: 275.2,
    303: 283.1,
    304: 291.2,
    305: 299.5,
    306: 308.1,
    307: 316.9,
    308: 325.9,
    309: 335.2,
    310: 344.8,
    311: 354.6,
    312: 364.8,
    313: 375.2,
    314: 385.9,
    315: 396.9,
    316: 408.3,
    317: 419.9,
    318: 431.9,
    319: 444.3,
    320: 457.0,
    321: 470.0,
    322: 483.5,
    323: 497.3}

    I will post in here any progression with any ROI a person wants. It can achieve a ROI of 10%, and then it can also decrease the ROI as the progression goes on. Just ask me.
     
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