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Roulette @ albalaha, do you have any database with real spin sequences of lots of repeats collected?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by thereddiamanthe, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Member

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    Yo

    Am testing unhit to all·flat all·spins unhit to singles conversion, proving well beyond amazing.

    I appreciate you latest attitude & philosophy in betting.

    I think its ready for the hardest test of sequences of many repeats concentration in whatever spin cycle.

    I know you were playing with Zuma book.
    Do you have any database with real spin sequences of lots of repeats collected?
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Member

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    Also, if anyone has what;s required posted above

    post in reply or perhaps get them in a fileupload with a link here.
     
  3. lorand

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    hi can iget the link please!!! thanx
     
  4. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    @thereddiamanthe,
    I never tried to collect any database in this manner and why do you need a particular type of data only? I digged the worst of an EC as I wanted to check if even that can be beaten with an all over approach or not. Why looking for a favorable data to prove any point? Do the opposite rather.
     
  5. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Member

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    Obviously you haven't read written properly.

    First I ain't working with EC but singles←unhit conversion.

    Second, what you have written in reply is exactly my point. Repeats could be regarded as unfavorable, especially as many of them as roulette produces ;]

    & I still win.



    So, back to the OP · do you have in mind any streams of sequences that are 'poluted' with repeats - perhaps in that Zuma book?
     
  6. Michael Bluejay

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    Manually matching against spin data (real or computer-generated) doesn't work because small samples don't give you a conclusive result, and meaningful samples (tens of thousands of spins) would take forever to hand-tabulate. You've got to run a huge sample through a computer program, otherwise the conclusion is worthless.

    I have a roulette number generator on my site (Easy Vegas) that'll generate as many numbers as you want, but again, you'd really have to run them through a computer program to meaningfully test them.

    Finally, no system can overcome the house edge. Here are four ways to understand that:

    (1) Past spins have no bearing on future spins.

    (2) Any combination of negative-expectation bets is always negative. (e.g., the average of any set of negative numbers is always negative)

    (3) Mathematicians (the same people who put a man on the moon, smarter than you and me) have understood these concepts well for a long time. This kind of thing has been studied to death for centuries, and the futility of betting systems is well-understood.

    (4) For years I've offered a $30,000 prize to anyone who could prove a winning betting system. No takers.

    Wanting to believe that something's true, doesn't make it true.
     
  7. thereddiamanthe

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    Stop blabbing.

     

  8. soxfan

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    Bullshits, I have mad a living for over 12 year at the baccarats. And, I have tested methods with positive result over thousands of shoe, hey hey.
     
  9. Michael Bluejay

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    I believe you like I believe that the average of a bunch of negative numbers is positive.
     
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    soxfan Active Member

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    You ap-wiseguy and mathite always wanna move the goal post. You never say how many hand or shoe of baccarats constitute the long run that mean inevitable ruins if you don't have a "edge". I can show a positive result over 15 000 shoe and you come back and say I got luck on the right side of variance or some such, hey hey.
     
  11. Michael Bluejay

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    That's not true. For example, my $30,000 Betting System Challenge is defined as showing a profit over 200,000 rounds, at least 11 out of 20 times.

    And I believe you show a profit over 15,000 shoes like I believe that the average of any number of nickels is >5¢.
     
  12. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    I can beat any such challenge betting all over, with one predefined approach betting "Player" only in baccarat. Player is considered a bit weaker than its counterpart "Banker" due to drawing rules but nevertheless can not manage a fair escrow agent to look after such challenges and manage taking and giving money from you or anybody else. 1,000 units bankroll is enough for me, even if my bet starts with a 5 Standard Deviation below mean, before winning its 1st unit.
    I have worked over sessions that started with 60/200 hits only and even later in 600 hands never got any compensatory or clumping wins: https://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/an-eyeopener-challenge-and-query/
    You rather find me a real patch of LWs from any real data of baccarat you can put your hand over that should not be won, my way.
     
  13. Michael Bluejay

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    I'm as likely to believe this as I am to believe in Santa Claus.
     
  14. albalaha

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    Hard to believe even for me but it was as much hard to imagine a flying machine carrying hundreds of passengers from one continent to others in hours when Ships used to take weeks to do the same but it happened. Now we do have machines that could rush to Mars.
    Anyways, you do not need to believe it as it must be hard to comprehend for you. It must have been hard for others to comprehend card counting in blackjack before it came in a book in 1962 by Edward Thorp.
     

  15. Michael Bluejay

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    It's not like whether to admit the possibility of some technology we haven't invented yet and don't understand, it's like whether I'm gonna believe something that is already *extremely-well* understood. Believing your claims is the equivalent of believing that the average of any set of negative numbers is positive, believing that the average of any number of nickels is more than 5¢, believing 2+2=5, believing that independent events somehow affect future independent events, etc.

    People like you have been making ludicrous claims like this for centuries. As they say, talk is cheap.
     
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    These "claimants" only deserve to be mocked. Don't waste tike arguing with them.

    There's a reason none of them are EVER kicked out of casinos (if any of them truly even go), are added into databases like Griffin, Biometrica, OSN, etc. They're ALL losing gamblers!
     
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  17. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    If you know so much about the negativity in gambling and impossibility of winning that, why the hell are you fucking around these forums?
    Why the hell should one know about future to win? Why can't merely winning in the long term be targeted? By the way which book of mathematics tell you that it is impossible to win a game of negative expectations? Go and find a job in gambling de-addiction site. Your preaching and abstract knowledge of mathematics may help some problem gamblers. Just say that you are not aware of (or have not witnessed)any winning methodology. Do not claim that it can not exist.
     
  18. Bago

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    Primary maths school book. If the odd of winning is higher than the payout, it is impossible to profit. If you don't understand this simple aspect of the Roulette game that has been around for centuries, then we cannot help you buddy.
     
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  19. Michael Bluejay

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    I am not aware of, and have not witnessed, a set of negative numbers whose average is positive, a set of positive numbers whose average is negative, an independent event influencing another independent event, or 2+2=5. Which is why I have also not witnessed the other impossibility that you claim exists (a winning betting system).
     
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    Good to know.
     

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