Roulette Another Grail

Hi everyone,

@Jerome

I found someone that is claiming to possess the best system in the world (yea only this) and says it can beat a 500K data flat betting and that can beat a 10 million data with a progression... actually he's running the data and then just adjust how many spins it is better to bet from the trigger (the last number that is repeating twice).

Of course i don't believe it and i'd like to know if that is possible to programm that system. There is one or two rules, nothing complicated.

Bet the last repetition for a certain number of spin... Sometimes he says 2 times, sometimes 5 times sometimes 7. What i'd like is to show that whatever how many time it is bet it doesn't give any profit long term and show that with a random selection instead that repeat could give better result with the same trigger...

Thanks in advance...

 

It will always be killed off by the sequence of death.

It's very simple to have the sim run 2 times, 5 times, and 7 times simultaneously. It would need a simple selection method added to it in order to select which duration to use before the next spins where processed. You don't need to bother though. This is a very simple rule and it would fail to prosper. We have already tested using 100's of unique selections and configurations that must hit at an exact spin in order to lose. This is far more precise. It is far more likely to work and it doesn't. You can make up 100's of combinations in exact sequences and they can only lose at a single moment, example Black, Red, Odd, High, Red, Even, Low, and High. You can randomize 100's of these unique sequences and use them randomly for a unique set of spins and they will still encounter the sequence of death enough to make the 8 step progression fail. Progressions fail because randomness always takes them out. You can't out guess the sequence of death, not even in life. But if you need proof then get someone to program it just to see for sure. Betting 128, 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, and 1 to win 1 unit is the reason that these systems don't work in the long run. Making the progression different or the steps a softer landing still fails. All rule based systems fail in the long run.

If by some miracle you do find a rule based system that succeeds you could make more money off of your time working at McDonald's.

 

Is there anyone who can code a simple rule on Roulette xtreme?

Thanks in advance

 

Hey Sharp,

I don't know RX but I can code the system in another language. It's a bit vague though; I assume by repetition you mean a single number only (not a group of numbers or a layout bet)? And does repetition mean the last number to repeat consecutively or within some predefined window (say, the last 5 spins)?

e.g. if consecutive it could be #12, #34, #11, #11, so now bet #11 for 2 spins, 5 spins or 7 spins. But which is it? Also, if you bet #11 for say 7 spins and then get another repeat within the 7 spins do you also bet on that number? In other words, are bets on multiple numbers allowed?

It doesn't really matter if you don't know whether it's 2, 5, or 7 because I can add an option to test all 3.

 

I agree, but no need to qualify "systems" by "rule based". All systems are rule based, otherwise they're not systems. What would a non rule based system be? it's a contradiction in terms.

If you don't have rules you're either betting randomly or making rules up as you play. But these latter "rules" can't be trusted to work, by definition, so they amount to betting randomly, which of course offers no advantage.

 

Hey Jerome,

Well here is an example to be clear (well i hope so, if it's not don't hesite to ask for more precision)

0
15
5
18
7
34
0< here 0 is the last repetition known so we bet it for 5 spins
35
3
16
24
6< Here we lost our five tries so we give up 0
15< 15 is the last repetition known so we bet 15 for 5 spins
19
16< here 16 is the last repetition known so we give up 15 and bet 16 for 5 spins
3< here we don't bet 3 because the last repetition known is still 16 if we scroll up
3< here 3 is the last repetition known so now we bet 3 for 5 spins and we give up 16

etc etc

Thanks in advance mate.

 

Ok, got it. I'm busy with other stuff until Sunday so don't expect it until then at least.

 

Sure. I know it must take some time to do. But really thanks! Many people won't be scammed for nothing. I don't know how i can give it back to you, but if you want good physic material, feel free to ask! It would be a pleasure to share it with you through mail.

 

Sharp,

Suppose in the above sequence #15 had occurred one spin earlier (where #6 is). I assume you would then start immediately betting on #15 because the current bet was the last try on #0?

Thanks for the offer off sending me some AP stuff. I'll send you a pm.

 

Hello Jerome,

Yes we would have bet on 15...

Actually we bet on the last repetition known, if we scroll up and see that a number is the last repetition then we bet on it.

For example

28
0
16
12
35
0<here we bet on 0
15
28< here we don't bet on 28 because if we scroll up we can see that the last repetition is still 0
18
29
27
25
5
4
13
16<here we bet on 16 because if we scroll up we can see that 16 is the last repeat known


I don't know if you can send me a pm as you didn't reach the 300 post, if it is the case just tell me

 

Sharp try to contact Jerome since YOU have reached the required amount of pages .

Sputnik reached me although he did not have the required pages either .


Try it .




ND

 

Hi Nathan,

All i can do is to write on his profile page...

I don't see anything to send a private message...

 

Congrats for having found the true ultimate HolyGrail.

 

Yes Bago, but please do not run into a rng plateform because you know... the computer will detect you as soon as you'll win more than 10 euros Start making deposit to gamble, don't be too greedy; no more than 3.60€ per day!

 

Been a bit busy lately and also have been watching Wimbledon in my free time, so I haven't gotten around to doing this yet, but I haven't forgotten about it.

 

I'll try to give you an answer to the rule based system question. I have one rule that I set out to accomplish. That rule is to win at the expected wins to losses ratio which tends to be about twice what the odds for wining and losing each spin are. Example would be that I expect to win 4.66 sessions at 3 net wins for every won session versus every single lost session at 7 net losses in that losing session. It takes just 2.3 won sessions to equal a single lost session. Anything earned beyond 2.3 is profit. Now that is the basic long termed rule. All I do is keep track of the ratio. As far as how I do this it is simple too. I expect to see a good patch or sequence that is from 10 to 20 spins for every 100 spins. I'm very patient. This takes about 3 hours. It can happen in the first hour or any time after it. There is no rule for hunting good sequences. They just occur from time to time. So I just wait for them. The casino does not cause them nor does it prevent them from occurring. Mathematics does not cause them nor does probability theory. Most people place bets right on thru bad streaks. These bad streaks are needed in order for the math to counter act the good streaks and to have the house advantage equivocate. So I place a guess on every spin. I can tell when my guesses are in a phase of working and when they are in a phase of not working. I can tell when they are not favoring the good or the bad phases. They are just chaotic. So based on this fact that I claim I can tell when I'm in a good patch, streak, or sequence, the question to you is can I see good patches of a session and once seeing this take action that the sequence will continue? Or does mathematical probability always rule out that all sequences once noticed will end abruptly? To me that rule would be just as magical. It would take a rule based on fallacy to think that all sequences in your favor must end just when you notice them. This idea of fallacies just because you are guessing is a rule or belief system too. It's nice for argument sake if it were true. But it is not critical thinking.

So the real question for me is, can a player notice when they are in a win streak based on guessing, whether or not that bets are actually placed? The guesses are actually made.

 

Thanks Jerome! It will be very useful to us