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Roulette Any professional roulette players here?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mantronix, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. AudioMan

    AudioMan New Member

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    This is a very interesting strategy. I've been trying it on paper, but because of all the information not being contained in one "comment", it's a little hard to follow properly. Let me see if I have this straight:
    1) "Five" is a hundred game session but you only play the every 5th one?
    2) During the first half of the possible 10 games (5th, 10th, 15th, 20th....up to 50th) if you reach your 3 to 5 unit profit, then that hundred game session is done?
     
  2. AudioMan

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    This is a very interesting strategy. I've been trying it on paper, but because of all the information not being contained in one "comment", it's a little hard to follow properly. Let me see if I have this straight:
    1) "Five" is a hundred game session but you only play the every 5th one?
    2) During the first half of the possible 10 games (5th, 10th, 15th, 20th....up to 50th) if you reach your 3 to 5 unit profit, then that hundred game session is done?
     
  3. Fivealive

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    Hi Audio man

    Correct in it purest form. There are a couple of sub bets I go for too under certain conditions. For example. If the first 10 games performed relatively poorly with 4 to 6 wins out of 10. As in the example below.





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    I will play for 10 wins by the 18th game. As this is the worst result Ive ever had. So basically after a first half like that. You are almost certain to have a better second half of at LEAST 6 wins out of 10. And almost certain that 5 of those 6 wins will come in games 11--18. So over the next 8 games you are going to win at least 5 of them. This is what I call a constant. Something that virtually ALWAYS HAPPENS.

    Another sub bet for earning extra profit is. Waiting for 3 games in a row to win on the first step of the two step bet. Or to NOT win on the first step for 3 games in a row.

    Then bet the opposite way using the martingale for up to 5 attempts only.

    1-2-4-8-16=31 units risk. In over 23k games. That progression has only lost 7 times. ITS WON OVER TWO THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED TIMES.

    This is alot SAFER than waiting for say 3 reds and then betting black up to 8. ALOT SAFER.

    So those are a couple of very strong sub bets I do.
     
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  4. AudioMan

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    Awesome, thanks for the response! I really want to test this on paper and hope it holds up well. Most of the people on this forum just argue back and forth and offer little hints and stuff but nothing of real substance. Seems like they’re just bored with their lives.

    So say in the first 10 games (ya know leading up to spin 50), on the first game you have a loss...the 1 unit then the 2 units. Then second game you lose 1 unit and 2 units again. Down 6 total units. The next game #3 will be an initial 2 units (doublestakes)and if that loses you put down 4 units. If that one loses as well, then what’s for game 4? Do you stay at 2 units or go back to 1 unit?
     
  5. Fivealive

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    Hi again Audio

    Yes Im not here to mess anyone around. Any serious about winning will get all my help.

    Treble losses dont happen very often. But when they do its time to think like a POKER PLAYER. You are running out of games in a 10 game frame that rarely delivers less than 5 wins out of 10. So I would stay at 5/10. And recover most if not all the damage done by the first 3 losses.

    Also knowing you can utilize your two sub super bets. Youve had at least three games now that havent won on step 1. So a STEP ONE WIN. Is very likely soon. And also because the first 10 games may be 6/4 or worse. You are likely to have a better second half.

    So no need to panic. Bide your time, all losses are coming back to profit. Its very rare for me to have a negative 20 game set. Ive gone over a 100 sets in a row without having one. And even then we are only talking 10 to 20 units in the red against 100s won.

    So yes after 3 losses in a row. Its time to risk higher. Because often a winning streak of 4 or more games follows such losses.
     
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  6. Jerome

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    Guys,

    Don't listen to Fivealive, he's full of sh*t. I'm surprised forum veterans haven't recognized the method which is a minor variation of another system called "Pattern Breaker" which has been posted by Fivealive using other aliases (such as Fender and John Legend) on other forums including betselection.cc, VLS and Steve's forum. His rhetoric is good and that's how he sucks people in, but the systems are garbage. Don't waste any time testing his systems because they all fail. He is a serial attention seeker and has been banned from other forums.
     
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  7. Fivealive

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    Im going to post up the results of my last 10 sets at some point this week. So you guys can see what happens the vast majority of the time. And as you paper test set after set. Your confidence in the remarkable consistency of FIVE will grow more and more...
     
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  8. Fivealive

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    I do not know of these people you say I am supposed to be. And I do not seek anyones attention. Five does not fail. There is nothing like it. And people will see that for themselves over time.

    I am aware that people probably with alterior motives get jittery and scared when someone with a genuine threat to the game starts to gather even a little momentum.

    You get scared. Thats why I ask any interested to paper test it for themselves. They will come to realize its the real deal.

    So stop trying to kill an excellent strategy. Unless youre some casino shill payed to try and kill off a genuine threat before too many gain knowledge of it. That sounds about right.
     
  9. Jerome

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    https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.0

    Look familiar? mr.ore tested it and of course it failed long-term. But have your fun Fivealive, anyone who tests it will soon learn the truth.
     
  10. Peca92

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    interesting discussion,got some very good tips :D thanks!
     
  11. Fivealive

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    Yes they will learn it works longterm and holds the most superior stability ive ever seen since I started playing this game in 1983. Ive never seen anything like it. And neither has anyone else. Do not confuse it with your martingale crap. That attacks the layout directly. Thats why all other systems fail. Including this pattern breaker you speak of. Whatever thats supposed to be.

    If I have to bet my life that I am going to win at least 5 games out of 10. Five will be my choice. In time several people will realize there really is a strategy that bests roulette in the longterm.

    Its just nobody ever thought about breaking up the flow of the game. Thats the difference between FIVE and 100s of inferior strategies.
     
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  12. Fivealive

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    You are welcome. Stay the course. Rich rewards await any who can.
     
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    Oh dear. :( The level of gullibility here is reaching a new high.

    It doesn't. And Fivealive avoided answering the question because there is no coherent answer.

    Every few years this character resurfaces with a new alias at a new forum, spouting the same old crap. He is a deluded attention seeker, just like Turbo, Winkel, and other self-professed "gurus" of roulette who are great at self-promotion but are ignorant of or misunderstand basic probability.
     
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    i was wondering about martingale too. but why 5 step, would be 4 step more safer ? or paper betting showed you that 5 step is most sensible?
     
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  15. mansi19896

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    i know johnlegend and i did mentioned hes pattern breaker, all systems are similar in some ways but like i mentioned earlier it has different twist in it which makes it completely different and we all know pattern breaker failed in long term. But there are still some peoples there though who keep winning for some odd reason.
    we can never know who is person behind other computer, so its impossible to judge by anyone, and why it does matter anyway.
    and he did answered question about 5... also.
     
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  16. Fivealive

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    Whatever you are more comfortable with Mansi. Ive won over 200 times before the 31 units risk is lost. Its the only time a martingale makes sense. With something this solid. To give you some longterm idea. Theres never been 10 wins in a row on step one. Or 10 in a row with a combination of step 2 wins and losses. In 23k games plus ive played

    Nobody has ever seen this level of stability. If you bet red or black straight off the layout. You never know when that 10 plus streak is coming to wipe you out.

    With FIVE its not coming period. I didnt come here for nothing to be ridiculed by set in their ways know it alls. I am bringing you constants that cannot be defeated by variance nor house edge. With any threat to your bankroll. I am giving you the anwser to the question can this game be beaten in the longterm by a paper system.

    And the anwser is yes. If you want to win. Simply follow what im telling you here. Thats all.
     
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  17. Fivealive

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    I cant labour with a closed book like you. You keep believing whatever you want to. Anybody who adopts FIVE will gain a bankroll to be proud of. And soon realize they can make a living from the game.

    Im not interested in losers who cant stand to see winners who are willing to share and help others.
     
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  18. mansi19896

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    im rightnow spinning do keep eye on these, but started to think does martingale you meant everytime you see streak or again only counting after FIVE. obviously it may take even more longer time, but i dont think you meant that ?
     
  19. Fivealive

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    Hi Mansi

    Here are two examples of qualifiers to employ the 31 unit martingale.

    EXAMPLE 1

    GAME 5

    RR●
    RB●
    BB●
    BR--STEP 1

    GAME 10

    RR--STEP 1
    RB●
    BB●
    BR●

    GAME 15

    RR●
    RB●
    BB--STEP 1
    BR●

    GAME 20

    RR●
    RB--BET FOR RED TO BREAK THE RUN
    BB●
    BR●

    If its red that game is over. If its black another step 1 win. Repeat on game 25. With 2 units. And so forth until you most likely win on one of your 5 attempts



    EXAMPLE 2

    GAME 5

    RR●
    RB●
    BB--STEP 2
    BR●

    GAME 10

    RR●
    RB●
    BB---LOST
    BR●

    GAME 15

    RR--LOST
    RB●
    BB●
    BR●

    GAME 20

    RR●
    RB●
    BB●
    BR--BET FOR RED TO BREAK THE RUN

    No run ive recorded has ever made it to 10 Mansi. That means

    1-2-4-8-16-32-64=125 is undefeated in several thousand runs starting from a run of 3. This is very powerful Mansi. Its a CONSTANT. Something that cannot be taken down by variance with enough frequency to harm your bankroll. If the trade were even 1000/1 it would be worthwhile. Ive nearly 3k results where it hasnt lost. This has to be taken very seriously.

    Its the key to taking the game to pieces.
     
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    okey, first time now im quite confused. i thought i understood, but second example made it complicated.
    i first thought you do progression on every FIVE round and then cd progression on next FIVE round, but first example made me realise it has to be done A Progression on fifth round for example, and B bet on the next FIVE and so on...
    And then example 2 of yours didnt made any sense to me.
     

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