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Roulette Any professional roulette players here?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mantronix, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. Fivealive

    Fivealive Active Member

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    Example 2 is betting the reverse of example 1 Mansi. Both are three of a kind to employ the martingale.

    So

    1--5
    1--10
    1--15

    Is 3 step 1 wins in a row but spaced the usual 5 games apart right? We now use the martingale to bet against this streak continuing.

    2--5
    L--10
    L--15

    Is a run of 3 none step 1 results Mansi. This too is a qualifier to employ the 5 step marty. So its an AC/DC bet Mansi. Either way a run of 3 is our trigger to start opposing it from continuing.

    This is not our regular FIVE strategy Mansi. This is the sub super bet I spoke of earlier.
     
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  2. mansi19896

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    that requires some noting on paper to see what pattern was created after every FIVE

    but in 2 example i still dont understand how 10 and 15 rounds were loss on BB and RR . if its opposite, then it should be waited til all 3 pattern are formed, but betting already on tenth and 15th round is too soon
     
  3. Fivealive

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    Okay I see where you have mis-understood.

    Heres the thing. There are three possible outcomes when playing a game of FIVE right?

    You either win on STEP 1. You win on STEP 2. Or you lose the game completely.

    Are you with me on that?


    So where you see those two lost games they are simply two none step 1 results. Are you with this?

    So we are basically betting against STEP 1 in example 1.

    And we are betting for STEP 1 in example 2.

    So if we are betting for STEP 1. Any run of three games can qualify a trigger to bet FOR STEP 1.

    So a trigger in example 2 could be any of the following.

    2
    2
    2

    L
    L
    L

    2
    L
    L

    2
    2
    L

    L
    L
    2

    L
    2
    2

    L
    2
    L

    2
    L
    2

    I hope this makes it more understandable. All we are concerned about. Is the last 3 games did not win on the first step. So now we are chasing that step 1 win. Using a maximum of 5 attempts 1--2--4--8--16. And it will take something like this to beat us.


    2--5
    L--10
    L--15
    2--20
    L--25
    2--30
    2--35
    L--40

    Hope that clears things up?
     
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  4. mansi19896

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    oh i think i got it now
    but still you have to write down the last pattern right? and it takes 15 rounds total to start betting against or with the trigger right ? on the 20.
    So theres 5 bets in a 100 maximum. if you win immediately
     
  5. Fivealive

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    Well you will never get 5 bets in a 100 game set Mansi. Because we need 3 games of FIVE to either show

    1
    1
    1

    Or

    2
    L
    2

    Or whatever none step 1 combination.

    And you will get shorter streaks of

    1
    1
    L

    Or

    2
    L
    1

    And we need a trigger of 3. It all depends on you. Over time you may decide you want to start after a trigger of 2. But of course this would require you to risk another step in the martingale which I dont recommend.

    A run of three is the perfect trigger. Remember this is a side bet. Its not our main bread and butter strategy. Thats FIVE.

    I dont want to unload too much information on you too quickly Mansi. And all who may be following. Absorb what ive presented so far. And play on paper until you see the magic consistency in action.

    To make all this waiting worthwhile. You need at least 3 possible bets throughout that 20 game set.

    I have 5 I can employ. But I wont go into anymore detail until you fully understand whats been presented so far. It all adds up to success against the game of roulette.

    To the person who asked what difference does playing games 5 apart make. The conclusion ive come to after all these years is. Its pushing variance too hard.

    You see on the layout that all the casinos want you to play like idiots. Variance can go on ridiculous runs. Here are some examples of what ive seen since i began in 1983.

    23 REDS IN A ROW

    19 BLACKS IN A ROW TWICE.

    18 REDS IN A ROW SEVERAL TIMES.

    And that just red and black.

    Ive seen the ball land on a single dozen 11 times.

    Ive seen a number sleep for 224 spins.

    Ive seen a column sleep for 36 spins.

    Ive seen a dozen sleep for 38 spins

    Ive seen the ball hit single numbers 5 times.

    Ive seen red and black zig zag 12 times.

    Thats what you are up against trying to play the layout straight. Little wonder why most think the games bullet proof right????

    Well when you stretch your bets out 5 apart. Variance throws in the towel. House edge is a non factor. Its game over for the casino.

    They really dont want 10,000 people knowing what I know. They really dont. But not to worry only the wise few are going all the way with this.

    The opinions and misconceptions of the masses always wins out.
     
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  6. mansi19896

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    i see. thank you for the clear insight. i start testing to see how it works out to keep eye on everything.
     
  7. Fivealive

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    Yes do, as the months roll by you will gain great confidence in all of this.
     
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  8. mansi19896

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    but what about you. Do you plan to go hunting at unibet for complete bank rob?
     
  9. Fivealive

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    I had an account with them years ago. Im trying to sort out the details. Because they dont allow multiple accounts. But yes. I will eventually see how they are. If they truly will allow even 50k to be taken from them I will be very happy.
     
  10. mansi19896

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    can you please let me know the results if things happen to go that far, then i know can i trust them also or not.
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    @ Jerome



    Thanks for your information .


    Nathan Detroit
     
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  12. Fivealive

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    Afternoon Mansi

    Yes of course I will keep you updated.

    Here are the results of my last 5 sets with FIVE

    (23030)





    ●--




    ●--



    ●--10th win game 13

    ●--




    ○--(15/5)

    (23031)





    ○--




    ○--






    ●--10th win game 16



    ●--(14/6)

    (23032)





    ●--




    ●--

    ●--10th win game 11



    ○--




    ●--(15/5)

    (23033)





    ●--




    ●--


    ●--10th win game 12


    ●--




    ○--(16/4)

    (23034)





    ○--




    ○--





    ●--10th win game 15




    ●--(14/6)

    Some varied results but the 10th winner always stays inside 18 games. And if the first half is a relatively poor sub set. The second half compensates. The longest winning streak I have on record is 17 straight games.
     
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  13. AMQ77

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    Hello Five, a very interesting way of playing, but need your help.

    If BR is the last pattern needed ("I wait for the result of the last pattern. I am betting against BLACK and RED. So if the next spin is RED. That game was a winner. If the last spin was BLACK. And the spin after that is BLACK. That game was also a winner. If the last pattern formed. BR then that game was a loser. We are using a two step prog of 1--2 on every played game.")...SO, if the pattern completes THEN EVERY GAME LOST is a 3 unit loss with a 1-2 prog correct? and a winner is only a ONE UNIT WIN...when you say you won 5 of 7 games, thats 5 units won and 2 loses = 6 units lost = negative one unit down..? what am I missing?...please advise, thank you.
     
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    Hi AMQ77

    Yes we are risking 3 units to win 1 on every game. Doesnt sound like a good trade until you see the consistency of results. FIVE isnt about overcoming the so called negative expectancy of roulette. Thats where everyone has been going wrong for the last 275 years.

    Its about identifying a CONSTANT. Something that rarely falls below a certain ratio of delivery. Therefore odds and house edge. Variance. All the things that make the game seemingly impossible to overcome.

    Are no longer important. You play 10 games. And you nearly always win at least 5. Thats the deal. You play 18 games and you ALWAYS WIN 10. Ive never seen anything of this consistency.

    And its the anwser to beating this game. So yes I happily risk 3 units every game for a one unit return. Ive won hundreds of sub sets of 10. Until the split has fallen below a 5/5 ratio and worst.

    What we are doing here is approaching the game with a different way of thinking. And thats what is required to beat this game consistently. There are other constants out there. I just happened to discover this one. And its made me alot of money over the years.
     
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  15. AMQ77

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    ok so what are we missing here?..."18 games always wins 10", that doesn't seem like a good win?...lose 8,...losing 3 units to win one... 8 loses = 24 units -10 wins = -14 units (negative) you need to hit 14 wins out of 18 to show a profit?...please advise
     
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    Whats missing is you are not just betting 1/2 all the way through. You have the KNOWLEDGE. That you are going to win 10 games out of the first 18 you play in a 20 game set.

    So you stake so that knowledge becomes PROFIT. Its like a poker player knowing he has a strong hand. A royal flush or whatever. He will raise his bets with confidence. Do you understand?

    Especially when you are running out of games. Lets say the first 10 game subset was poor. 5 wins out of 10. Or worse. I now know the second half is going to give me my comeback. At least 5 wins out of the next 8 games.

    So I now stake to take advantage of this. And thats how you win with FIVE. Its a different way of thinking about the game. And its a way to WIN.

    This along with other very consistent things that occur in the course of that 100 game set. Offer consistent money making opportunities. This is how the game can be beaten. And is beaten by me and others everyday.
     
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    Does anyone else agree with this logic or math?...you have to win 78% of your bets just to show a tiny tiny profit....you are saying you hit 80+% with this pattern breaker consistently over years of time? please prove the math that this works, not with your theory or beliefs please, thank you.
     
  18. Fivealive

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    I have over 8 years of success with this strategy. As ive said to others. I wont labour over any negativity. Ive layed one of the greatest ways to beat this game on the forum.

    Any who want to win must actually make some EFFORT for themselves. Its as simple as that. People charge alot of money for systems that dont come close to this.

    Youve had a great strategy handed to you. The only question is will you be wise enough to REALIZE THAT.

    Thats the only question. You can choose to ignore it. Which of course 99.9% of people will. Or you can find out for yourself. Its there for any who want to make money from this game. But I cant do the work for you. I hope you can grasp this. As ive said paper test it for yourself. And as you see set after set delivering the numbers ive said.

    You might just start to realize what ive given you here.
     
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  19. mansi19896

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    you need to be prepared of loosing few 100 games in a row. has happened, you just have to stick to the game plan til your ahead
    it may take over 500 games til your profit
    all your test results would be welcomed here, so we know more information to be prepared for ANYTHING
     
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    It can't be proved because it's garbage. Fivealive is a compulsive liar and serial troll who has posted under numerous aliases and at different forums over the years. Please ignore him and don't waste any time even testing his systems.
     
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