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Baccarat Anyone tried Galactic Baccarat by Michael Watson?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Dragonbet, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. Dragonbet

    Dragonbet New Member

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    Michael Watson a British guy out of Las Vegas who uses a method called Galactic Baccarat. His website and method used to be called BaccaratForCash but in recent years he has changed it to Galactic Baccarat. Has anyone tried his strategy?
     
  2. Baccarat Magician

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    He uses a simple martingale strategy, but splits it up to 3 ways of playing, conservative, normal, and aggressive. First conservative progression is 1, 2, 4. Second normal one is 1, 2, 4, 8 and the aggressive is a 5 step martingale 1, 2, 4, 8, 16. You choose your comfort level. The strategy has you wait for 2 losses in a row before betting aggressively, 3 losses in a row for normal betting and 4 loses in a row for conservate betting. He says he beats "random with random", using random numbers and plays opposites constantly mixing the bets up. Anytime theres a bust, you reset. Thats it.
     
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  3. Rinad

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    Random with random is my favorite selection for Martys and I recommend it highly. yes at time if see 2 or 3 blocks of 4 or 5 of the same combination I may go not to repeat but as bread and butter random plays are great. it seems that this method described above Magician is very close to what I do, exept at time I think increasing bets as you win are really called for.
    even Martys like 1,3,7,15 can be called for . you combine all these plays with a healthy bankroll and a player can go a long way . things dont have to be so complex i think.
    but just because one would have a 10.000 $ bankroll it does not mean he should be playing 25,50,100 chips. why not start even lower like 5,10 $ units and be relax and confident as you play ? I am always stunned to see how much one can win playing low stakes, and at the end of the day it all adds up. roulette is a great way to play even bets, and have chips on 0/00 during higher bets protects you tremendously. I would even recommend playing ties with bacc if you are in recovery, why not, a few good wins can get you back to square one in a hurry.
    nothing I said is very Math or scientific but for a player who desires to win and enjoy wins on a daily basis ,it is one way to get the job done. yes in some way I use the power of a big bank to push my way through but isn't it what big businesses do as well ? you can seat a a poker table and have 100 chips in front of you going against the other guy who has 5000 chips in front of him, and who do you think will most likely win ? casinos have all the $$$ in the world, and in a sens that is their huge advantage even if they want us to beleive it is the house edge. if a guy walks in with 100 millions they are going to be a little worry no doubt, specially if that player is a smart player and dont bet the same flat bet all the time.
    just my 2 cents,
    Regards,

    R.
     
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  4. Dragonbet

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    Thanks for the information. On his website he has a lot of testimonials of players who successfully use his method. I'll try this out, seems interesting. I never thought of just betting on random results.

    The method I been using lately is called Target87system. Its a 6 step martingale 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, but the bet selection isn't random as you say, it bets on the the previous results. For example, you start with betting on Player the first hand of the shoe, then you bet on Player again regardless of whether there is a win or loss. If you have two losses in a row, you switch to Banker, 2 losses in a row of Banker switch back to Player and so on. You keep betting on Banker or Player if you win on the first or second bet. So you are catching all the streaks, chops, you only lose if you catch a bad run of the terrible twos. I guess every betting method has its weakness, but so far I have got pretty good results using this method on average about 30 units per shoe. Even if I bust and lose 63 units in my progression, its easy to bounce back in a couple shoes.
     
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  5. cps10

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    You don’t have to use Marty to be successful with that. A run of ten terrible twos such as BBPPBBPPBB will kill you with a Marty but there are other ways to kill that bird.
     
  6. fathead

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    I have looked at that website before. I am glad that I did not pay money for this info. So basically he is betting against a random bet losing 7 times in a row and selling this idea for $2500. Sheesh.
     
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    Thanks for the information, by the way. I appreciate it.
     

  8. Baccarat Magician

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    Yep, pretty much. He claims he used to be a card counter playing blackjack until he got banned, then he started throwing dice at craps tables with dice control before they had the foam deflectors installed on the back wall. Then he gravitated towards baccarat, at which he says he's been winning at consistently for over 15 years. Of course, losing 3, 4 or 5 bets in a row is easy, even if you are waiting for 2, 3, or 4 losses in a row first before betting. Those 9 units you made in a shoe isn't going to help you recoup -31 units in a 5 step martingale you lost. Espcially if you are counting on 7 random losses not happening in a row. That can easily happen in 50% of the shoes or more if your unlucky.
     
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  9. Baccarat Magician

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    You're welcome)
     
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    Im assuming you have an alternative method you are going to share since you claim you can be successful with Dragonbets bet selection method correct?
     
  11. fathead

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    I think I remember reading that he trains one or two students per month. If true, $2500 to $5000 per month can cover a lot of martingale busts. If you compare the testimonials from the old website and the new one they are slightly different. I am guessing he just made these up.
     
  12. cps10

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    I don’t use that method but I would put in a less aggressive bet amount selection in over a Marty. I typically use a moderate series betting program for even Chance bets. I have explained it on here recently. Go for best of three or five bets using your base unit. If you win a majority of those then stay put. If you lose a majority, then increase by a unit for the next series. If you win a majority on a higher bet series then drop down. If you reach a new high in profit, reset to base unit. Very conservative but very effective.

    If you lose two of three on one unit, you are down 1 unit. If you move up and win two of three at two units, you are now ahead 1 unit and can go back to 1 unit your base. It’s like the ladder method but in series. I have other little rules in there that I put in to safeguard further but this is the basic scheme I would use.
     
  13. Baccarat Magician

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    A lot of system sellers make more money from selling their system then actually playing. If you look at his old website baccaratforcash and the new one galactic baccarat, he just transferred the testimonials and added new ones. Are they real? Who knows...its easy to go on a winning streak short term no matter what the strategy, so maybe some of his students are getting good short term results, but either way no way to verify. The more important question is can you win betting a 3, 4 or 5 step martingale progression consistently on random number bets, even if your waiting for 2, 3 or 4 losses in a row before betting? He recommends you have 3 bankrolls and claimed he has only lost all 3 bankrolls one time and when he did he just doubled his martingale progression until he recouped his losses. What if part of the reason he changed the name of his method and website is that the method he teaches now is completely different then what it used to be? Its possible, even how I play has changed over the years to what I play today.
     
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  14. Ordinary_people

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    When i remember about 5 step martingale. I remember ever used 5 step grand martingale in the past maybe 6 years ago that make my heart pump and bounce.

    Not want to use again. If i want to use marty maybe just 3 step martingale
     

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    Yup testimony can be made up if want it
     
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    So basically your progression is 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,22 and reset anytime you win 3 out of 5 or more in the series or anytime you have a profit. Do you progress further from there or is there a cut off point and a stop loss? Or do you continue further in escalation, for example 7,7,7,7,7,8,8,8,8,8,9,9,9,9,9 etc...?
     
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    Go as far as you need. I don’t usually use a set stop loss. But think about it like this:

    1 x 5 = 5
    2 x 5 = 10
    3 x 5 = 15

    That’s 30 units. If you lose 15 bets in a row, then yes, you should consider leaving even with as small as 30 units. But even a few wins can reduce what you’ve lost allowing you to extend into larger levels. If you lose just 3 of 5 in each level, you would only lose 1 + 2 + 3 = 6 units. So a fourth level would be 20 more units which is 4 less than three full levels. You have to play around with it to your liking. You could set yourself at 30 units or 50 units or whatever. If you do three bets, you have a shorter minimum bankroll. If you do seven bets, it’s larger.

    Just keep in mind to drop a level when you win a higher level such as if you win 3 out of 5 on Level 4, you move down to Level 3. I would even advocate any time you win 3 bets to drop down to avoid any unnecessary losses at higher bets. If you win your first three at 4 units, why would you play the other two bets? Just drop to 3. And I will move to the beginning at 1 unit if at anytime my profits are a new high.

    Hope this helps. It works for me.
     
  18. Baccarat Magician

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    Understand, thanks for clarifying. Just out of curiousity, whats the most units you have been down in a session using this method? And when you say "set yourself" at 30 or 50 units, are you referring to a stop loss? Also, when you drop down after winning 3 bets in a row on the 4th level for example you drop to the 3rd level, but what if you win 3 bets in a row on the 3rd level do you continue to drop down until you get back to the first level or do you drop just one level and bet flat until you are back in profit?

    Thanks
     
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    Yes you continue to drop down. I would say though if you win three straight on the fourth level followed by three on the third that you are likely at a higher profit level so you’d drop to 1. But if not, you’d drop to the 2nd.

    You can set your own bankroll. 30 units would cover three levels of five bets. 50 would cover 4 levels of five bets and so on. On a three-bet series three levels would be 18 units; four levels 30 units; five levels 45 units and so on.

    For a seven-bet series, 42 units covers three levels; 70 units covers four.

    Keep in mind that these would be an unfortunate loss of every bet in every series. That likely will never happen as you can win a few. So if on a four-level five-bet series for 50 units, you can win some bets. Maybe you lose at net one bet per level (lose three of five) then after four levels you’ve lost only 10 units. That gives you 40 units to play with in level 5, which would be 25 more units. You’d still have 15 extra units to play. And as I mentioned before, if you lost three bets to start, you’d move up to level 6 after losing a max of 15 units. You see where you can extend into higher level with just some wins?

    This is what I meant when I have other nuances that extend my opportunity to play larger units to recover without exceeding my initial bankroll.

    Even on a five-bet series, you could even say that you can only lose three bets per level before moving up. That can extend a bankroll:

    L1: 1+1+1 = 3
    L2: 2+2+2 = 6
    L3: 3+3+3 = 9
    L4: 4+4+4 = 12
    L5: 5+5+5 = 15

    Or 45 units instead of 75. The possibilities are endless.

    And the answer to your original question, I’ve been down nearly 100 units in drawdown before some of my big bets started paying off. I will also quit down 30 units or so and then double my buy-in next time and recover that way. I look for a percentage of my bankroll as my stop win and after I achieve it keep playing until I lose another hand. If I double up I will add those two buy-ins together to calculate my total stop win in addition to recovery. Example: 30 unit buy in I’m looking to win 3-6 units maybe. If I lose it, I buy in for 60 and double my play. The 90 total units are my basis for my stop win which is probably between 12-18 units total in addition to the 30 I lost previously.

    I could go on for days with this but will stop here. I paid a fortune to get this kind of designed MM procedure. But there, I posted it. I gave what I do. It works for me. It may not work for you. But since I’ve been using it for the past year and a half, I am way ahead. Sure I’ve lost those first bankrolls many times, but I’ve recovered them all 100%. I have gone as far as going into a fourth bankroll, but that recovers them all and gives me an even larger profit.
     
  20. Baccarat Magician

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    Thanks for taking the time to give a thorough explanation. When you say you have gone as far as going into a forth bankroll does it look like this...1st bankroll 30 units, 2nd 60 units, 3rd 120 units, 4th 240 units? Keep doubling bankrolls until you come out ahead? What about the levels? You started with 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2 etc...with second bankroll does it go 2,2,2,2,2,4,4,4,4,4,8,8,8,8,8, but that exceeds your bankroll, so maybe 2,2,4,4,8,8,16,16? How does each bankroll progression and level look like because it seems it needs to modified slighty based on buy in.
     

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