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Blackjack Are BJ Games in AC that Bad?

Discussion in 'Blackjack Forum' started by Frank Scoblete, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. Frank Scoblete

    Frank Scoblete Active Member Founding Member

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    The short answer is "yes." All games are either six decks (almost always in the high roller rooms) or eight decks. There are scattered 6:5 single-deck games (which are horrible games to play) in some casinos. The cuts are not too deep, usually 70 to 75 percent with some casinos offering about 80 percent.

    Card counters can get an edge at these games but that edge is small and needs endless hours of grinding away.

    And the answer is also "no." All the games allow doubling on the first two cards; doubling after splits; some allow resplits and doubling after resplits. These games are good for non-card counters --- and the worse the penetration the better for the non-counter.

    True, the casinos are hitting on soft 17 so that hurts everyone.

    AC used to have four-deck games which were good. That was long, long ago.

    Blackjack --- in fact, blackjack across the country --- is nowhere near as good in as many casinos as it used to be. That is the fact of casino-playing life. Note how many blackjack tables have now been turned into carnival games tables. Casino gambling is on the other side of the mountain now, going down, down, down in every way; it's upward climb is over.

    AC is the harbinger of that downward movement. In the end, Las Vegas will be around as will some casinos here and there. But the tidal wave is over.
     
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  2. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    US offers the worst of roulette odds. American roulette with 0 & 00 and even worst payout of 0-00-1-2-3 bet gives a big tilt towards casinos and against the players. They keep imposing the worst odds and worst payouts and worst rules wherever they can. No doubts, the industry will sink further.
     
  3. bigplayer

    bigplayer New Member Founding Member

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    If you can afford $100 min the games in AC aren't that bad. Less than $100 it's pretty horrible.
     
  4. zengrifter

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    I find it very tiring to play AC, especially with no-mid-entry rules.
     
  5. Frank Scoblete

    Frank Scoblete Active Member Founding Member

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    Yes, in general. High roller rooms okay.
     
  6. Gullywin

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    The quality of blackjack games in Atlantic City can vary depending on the casino and the specific game you choose to play. However, many players and experts agree that the overall quality of blackjack games in Atlantic City has declined in recent years due to rule changes that increase the house edge and reduce player advantage. These changes include rules such as 6:5 payouts on blackjack, dealer hits on soft 17, and restrictions on doubling down and splitting pairs. It's essential to do your research and carefully choose the blackjack game and casino that offers the most favorable rules and conditions to maximize your chances of winning.
     
  7. Moraine

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    If you play blackjack in the east coast, go to casinos in Pennsylvania, not Atlantic City. Pa casinos offer the best rules you can find anywhere. (All bad blackjack rules in AC that you have mentioned seem to be banned by law in PA.)
    If you still like to go to Atlantic City, try Spanish 21 there. The rules of Spanish 21 in AC seems to be the same as those of casinos in Pennsylvania. The only thing that may matter for card counters is penetration.
     

  8. Chip Magnet

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    PA was six deck for the longest time. Now eight deck. Still the best rules.
     
  9. Moraine

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    For blackjack, many casinos in PA (Parx for example) still have $25-min-bet, 6-deck tables most of the time. For Spanish 21, it appears PA casinos only offer 8-deck though. Personally, I prefer 8-deck over 6-deck for both blackjack and Spanish 21, unless the table begins with many empty seats and has NO-MID-SHOE-ENTRY rule in place.
     
  10. Chip Magnet

    Chip Magnet Active Member

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    I played blackjack at Parx a few months ago, on a Saturday afternoon. $15 min. 8 deck.
     
  11. Moraine

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    If you count cards, a table with 8 decks and $15-min bet is a better table than 6 decks, $25-min bet in my opinion. This will become particularly true, when the 8-deck table also has a deeper penetration than 6-deck tables -- a common phenomenon in casinos.
     

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