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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    How is math the foundation of everything?
    All matter is made up of particles, which have properties such as charge and spin, but these properties are purely mathematical, he says. And space itself has properties such as dimensions, but is still ultimately a mathematical structure.Jan 30, 2014 https://www.livescience.com/42839-the-universe-is-math.html#:~:text=All matter is made up,still ultimately a mathematical structure.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/this-m...-how-everything-in-mathematics-is-connected-3
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    No it's not. Again, once you get more experience, you'll find the folly in your current strategy. Before long, you'll start lowering your win goal lower and lower, until your goal is just one unit per spin. Then you'll realize that even that isn't possible with a foolish progression like the Martingale.
     
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    Dr. Sir, you inspired me to change my avatar.
     
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    Just had the Ladies Wimbledon Final here and despite banning all Russian competitors, it turns out the Winner was born in Russia and still has residence in Moscow even though she now represents Kazakhstan. When John McEnroe questions this after she is handed the trophy, he gets told down his earpiece to shut up about it. The ban is stupid enough, but then you can't even talk about it when something as ironic as this happens.

    What a crazy world we live in.
     
  5. Luckyfella

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    Is math required to lay a chick?
     
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    Actually I did try it a few years ago when gizmo was posting on Steve's forum. It's so vague and handwavy that you could use any bet selection you like, and in fact gizmo himself said then that it doesn't matter what BS you use, the important thing is to keep track of when it's working and when it isn't. Bet when it's working (virtually) and don't bet when it isn't. This is just an inverse form of gambler's fallacy, but I gave it a good trial nonetheless. I didn't bother to report back the failure because I knew what the reply would be : "you need to practice more". Basically you and gizmo have insulated yourselves from any criticism by making the method deliberately unfalsifiable. It's unfalsifiable because it's subjective and imprecise. Therefore if you can't win with it it must be the fault of the player, not the method itself, which can't lose. :rolleyes:

    If all systems fail, which is what you believe, it doesn't follow that if you don't use a system you will win. And it makes me laugh when you say math doesn't help you win but experience and observation does. Math is only a formalization of observation and experience. As mathematician Laplace said :

    The theory of probabilities is at bottom nothing but common sense reduced to calculus; it enables us to appreciate with exactness that which accurate minds feel with a sort of instinct for which ofttimes they are unable to account.
    — Pierre-Simon Laplace (1749-1827)
     
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    Absolutely, you need to be able to count out the correct dollar amount you owe her.
     
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    LMAO, that's true! I was in the gym the other day and I asked the fitness instructor which machine did he recommend me to go on so that I could impress the ladies. He told me to try the ATM machine out in the lobby!
     
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    That's a very good one.
     
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    Explain this is practical application terms .. as when I see those formulas just from afar my stomach is about to turn.
     
  12. SPIKE

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    I say this a lot because it's true. As long as the casino keeps paying me every day for winning every session somebody else's opinion is meaningless to me. In the scheme of things the people who pay you are the only ones that matter, they are the only ones you have to prove anything to. The opinion of anybody else is irrelevant. So you can't make it work, oh well, too bad on you. Works just fine for me and that's all I give a shit about. The math doesn't like it, people who look at the reading random thread don't like it, the idiots don't like it, but the casinos have no arguments with it and that's all that matters.
     
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    If there is a logical description of a process, a testable theorem, math can be used to describe it.

    Math can describe and model the evolution of the cosmos, chemistry, protein folding, and behaviour of quantum processes.

    The issue is a concise description of the method, the nexus of the approach.

    If it all boils down to "feelings" or the "vibe of it" basically a subjective method then that can be modelled through Bayesian methods, fuzzy logic, k-means clustering, hidden Markov models or neural networks. But you need good data, wheel results, history of bets made. Math is able to model an unknown process and I've used this for modelling market behaviour.

    So what do we have? We don't have any good data and we don't have a concise description. We have word salad.

    So it's handwaving.
     
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    Math .. can't explain a 'flinch' .. & the math of those who overcame it .. neither the math of how to do that.
    But in essence its an electrical phenomenon.. hmm.
     

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    Math is a descriptive (observatory), not causal language .. meaning the 'reach' of its properties is not all-encompassing &or fully impactful. Hmmm .. the active side of infinity.
     
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    Orgasm count, take care of that and you have another addition to the harem.
     
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    You must be fundamentally insecure .. that your chick-method is trying to 'impress' them. What are you supplicating, compensating for?

    Ever heard of 'gravity'?
     
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    So you condone making violent threats including death threats as acceptable behaviour?
     
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    Yes I agree, I only use math when it is needed.

    This is supposedly a gambling forum, so the context for math is appropriate. If you were in a forum about ass wiping, math might be a bit out of context, unless you're in the toilet paper business.

    Math is useful for assessing the validity of a method, approach or claim, the probability of loss, and the risk. The outcomes of a roulette wheel are very well described with math.

    If you don't use math you can't size your stake optimally whilst avoiding ruin.

    I would say that is a reasonable justification to use some math. If you can't get to the crux of it then ruin is certain.
     
  20. Luckyfella

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    TwoUp and MedianJoe wrote the truth about the application of math in this roulette game.

    Ofc some people play discretionary methods and do win.

    Perhaps Spike does not want to lay out the rules on a forum. That's the explanation.
     

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