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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Median Joe

    Median Joe Active Member

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    No, it's not useless because it tells you it's impossible to win by just looking at past numbers. It can be used to help you win in other ways, by telling you when outcomes aren't random, for example.
     
  2. TwoUp

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    No. I'm a please provide a rational explanation troll.

    Logic, reason and math are ways to describe a process or method and understand and analyse a concept.

    But all you and the Jizz are willing to provide is "it's a vibe thing", math is evil, and Fig-Jam "Fuck I'm Great Just Ask Me", I win every time and have a magical mystical pattern that wins.

    I'm sorry but mysticism, "feelings", "educated guesses" offer no rational explanation. And of course you know this as you promise the "secrets" in your little side hustle ripping off the gullible who perhaps don't understand math and logic like yourself.

    You're not actually explaining anything here and this topic is serving as a sales funnel for a program you and Jizzatron make a buck out of.
     
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  3. gizmotron

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    The answer has already been given. But you are so smart that you already know what the answer is. If you try to add that up with math you get nothing. It's what you disserve too.
     
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    Typical hustle. This mathZombie is like an FBI agent with his one scent hound dog instinct. It must be for sale. There is a price for all this. You must make fun of all mathZombies once you know how and why it works. It's a very slow and rewarding process that only cost you your own time and effort. MathZombies are too smart to find out that they are the scammers. It's them trying to push baloney. It's all documented here. This is always the same. These math geniuses have no clue how to win.
     
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  5. TwoUp

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    You're the one selling stuff and can't answer simple questions of logic because you are peddling nonsense.
     
  6. gizmotron

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    It must be fun going through life lying to yourself and trying to impress others. Nothing is for sale. It's all freely given. Prediction is not a claim of how it works, another one of the lies you tell yourself. You pose as so all knowing that you end up projecting your own ignorance. You are just another math oriented loser trying to act like you know how to gamble. You can't listen. I told you that the math that validates Reading Randomness has yet to be discovered. Because it does not exist yet you act like your theories on statistical probability are the absolute and only truth possible. So here you are to save the world from discovery. Because if you are wrong and I am right then you suck. And that is the truth. You suck. You can't remove your opinion. It's here for all to see. In the end you suck.
     
  7. gizmotron

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    I'm not selling anything because people won't take my offer. I tell them that they can pay me a few thousand dollars for private instructions or they can have it all for free with no extra secret information at a fee, all of it, everything, all for free if they are willing to read through the free accessed thread where it is all explained. There is free software to practice with. There is open discussion by others that have worked their way through it. There are no idiots there that can find anyone that has paid any money to see the thread. There are idiots there that spout claims of math and probability backed by the claim that it must be about prediction. You are not the only asshole that can't listen. But you are in a group that will be eating the shit sandwiches of your own making. When this goes mainstream people will know how a few people had to tolerate dickheads from Mars in order to share it.
     
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  8. Nathan Detroit

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    We are dealing here with a typical key board jockey . No casino experience at all,.
     
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  9. Georgie

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    Just place a $5 bet on any EC wager, then immediately clear it: This will reset the timer for ejection to the Lobby.
     
  10. gizmotron

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    great advice, thanks
     
  11. Georgie

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    That's right. It's much easier to win $500 x 1 time than it is to win $5 x 100 times.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    strategies at roulette EC ?<o re likely a calculated lucky guess.
     
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  13. Nathan Detroit

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    Georgie, bring 3 unimpeachable witnesses when you bet and win the bet in one shot as stated .
     
  14. SPIKE

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    I tried that and it did not work for me. It did not recognize it as an actual bet because it was not finalized
     

  15. SPIKE

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    There are no lucky guesses, only good ones and bad ones.
     
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    I have a minimum bet of $1 on three different double streets. It's a $3 EC bet. I can play for hours with it and break even most of the time. It's a real bet and tricks the outside bet minimum of $5. So if I'm waiting I just play strong side on the EC's. I'm real good at it if you just let the amount float. It's the very easiest "playing my game" tactic. There is almost always a stronger side that goes on.
     
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  17. Georgie

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    With respect, that's not quite correct mathematically.

    In analyzing an Even Chance Coin Flip, please correct me if I'm wrong:


    y
    x

    where:

    x = number of possible outcomes

    y = number of trials


    For example:

    Any Coin Flip [Even Chance (EC) wager] has 2 possible outcomes

    x = 2

    Therefore, for 1 Coin Flip trial, there are 2 possible results:

    x = 2
    y = 1

    H T

    For 2 Coin Flip trials, there are 4 possible results

    x = 2
    y = 2

    H H T T
    H T H T

    For 26 Coin Flip trials, there are 67,108,864 possible results

    x = 2
    y = 26


    PROBABILITY = The fraction of times you expect to see an event, divided by the number of trials, always expressed as a decimal from 0 to 1:

    The probability (chance) of 26 consecutive HEAD results is

    PROBABILITY = 1/67,108,864 = 0.0000000149011612


    If you see HEADS 25 times in a row, the chances of HEADS on the 26th flip = 0.00000149011612% , NOT 50%


    ODDS is always expressed as a ratio, showing the number of winning events to the number of losing events:

    Win : Lose

    where:

    PROBABILITY = z

    ODDS = z/(1-z)

    ODDS of 26 consecutive HEAD results = 0.0000000149011612/(1-0.0000000149011612) = 0.00000001490116142204460841711

    1/0.00000001490116142204460841711 = 67,108,863 = 1:67,108,863


    The ODDS of a consecutive result repeating get increasingly lower with each increasing number of trials.
     
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  18. Georgie

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    p.s. The editor wouldn't allow me to type a superscript for in the math formula I gave you:

    y
    x

    Please know this should be read as x(to the y power)

    All else in my post is correct.
     
  19. Georgie

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    On Bovada?

    I don't know why it didn't work. I use Bovada, and that's exactly how I reset the "Eject to Lobby" timer when I'm observing a LIVE table and not betting: I place one "minimum bet" chip in action on any Outside EC bet, then immediately click UNDO or CLEAR. This always works for me. I just keep doing it every 10 minutes or so, and never get ejected to lobby.
     
  20. SPIKE

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    Exactly. This is why the casino encourages you to bet smaller amounts over a longer period of time. They know that the longer you play the sloppier you get and the longer your bankroll is exposed to the casinos bankroll the better it is for them. This is why most of the time minimum bets are so low. It's why they are so low at online casinos especially. Small losses can really add up quickly.
     

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