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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    To avoid sleepers in dozens I prefer the Follow the Dozens method.



    Play at your own risk .
     
  2. Keyser Soze

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    Interesting…curious to know more
     
  3. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    Wrong as usual.

    "Baccarat isn't a game that's commonly associated with card counting. Instead, blackjack draws all of the attention for this advantage play method. Nevertheless, you can effectively count cards in baccarat. You can even make small—and I emphasize small—profits from baccarat card counting."

    This is because just like in blackjack the outcomes are connected in a shuffled shoe. The outcomes are not independent trials like they are in roulette.
     
  4. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I don't know I don't play that way.
     
  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Picking dozens on the i lay out is an invitation for sleepers .
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Accept the fact that Baccarat and roulette EC are games of Lick not of strategy .
     
  7. Median Joe

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    Nope. It's just not worth the bother. https://www.888casino.com/blog/baccarat-tips/card-counting-in-baccarat
     

  8. David Gregory

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    Games of lick all right, you lick your wounds after playing a strategy long enough.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    They are games of LUCK.


    Thanks for detecting the error . Y m really mean it .
     
  10. SPIKE

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    You're not getting it. The fact that you can do it at all and gain at least a little benefit means that the hands are connected and they are not events independent of each other. In blackjack and Baccarat you know what the cards are and you know how many cards are in a shoe therefore you can keep track of the cards and make educated guesses as to what's coming next because they're connected. Duh.. The degree of benefit you get is irrelevant to the point. You cannot in any way shape or form do this in roulette because they are truly independent events. This is why roulette is so hard to beat.
     
  11. SPIKE

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    I do not believe in luck but I do believe in lick. I had a deer salt lick in the yard for a while, the deer love to lick..
     
  12. David Gregory

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    Joe, don't you get it yet? Neither you or TwoUp have a lick of sense. You guys just don't understand who you're dealing with. Spike has all the answers. He has a strategy that no one has ever coceived of since the dawn of gambling. Arguing with him is useless no matter how right you are. Perfect math means nothing when you put it up against someone who has found a way to make 1 + 1 = 3. It is a new math, strike the old. Einstein would be blown away. However, what I want to know is when a guy has a strategy that is flawless, can't lose no matter what, why doesn't he play for huge stakes as TwoUp asked rather than tidly-wink peanuts. Spike says why risk it, 1 unit is good enough. If he has found a perfectly flawless strategy, WHAT RISK? There can be no risk. Why not play for real high stakes and share the winnings with close realatives and friends. Mieser.
     
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  13. SPIKE

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    I do have the answer for this. The outcomes in baccarat and blackjack are connected otherwise counting the cards would be absolutely worthless and it's not. When you see a shoe of cards for baccarat or blackjack you can imagine that there is a cord running through those cards that connects each one to the next one until the shoe is done. They are not independent events no matter how much you wish they were. You want independent events like roulette? Reshuffle the shoe after every hand you'll get what you want.
     
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  14. Nathan Detroit

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    As far as I remember no one has ever revealed the $ value of their unit .
     
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  15. David Gregory

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    What do you mean,I have many times. 5.00 is the base unit I use for testing. However, I wish I would have started out using only 1 unit as my base bet. Therefore, it leaves it up to the imagination of how much money I won when I claim a 9,428 unit win. What if it was a $100.00 base unit? That would be a win of $942,800.00. Too bad I chose a chincy 5.00 base unit.
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It is amazing how much personal information is revealed in forums .
     
  17. SPIKE

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    Everybody reveals their testing units, who cares. It's fantasy betting. The unit you're using in the casino nobody talks about because it's nobody's business. You never know who's reading these things and anything monetary you state can always be used against you.
     
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  18. SPIKE

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    It usually goes something like this. Somebody gets on these forums and shoots their mouth off about how much money they make in the casino, giving unit size, dollar amount won, days they play. They do it a whole bunch of times. Their wife is aware of it, all the people in their family are aware of it. Awhile down the road and their marriage falls apart and now they have a vindictive wife who uses this information that she's copied and saved and gives it to the IRS. Or even more common some jealous brother-in-law does the same thing. Sure you used a fake name but you can't fake your IP address. The people most likely to give information to the IRS is now and has always been close family members because they're the ones that have access to the information. So go ahead, if you ever start playing for real money, shoot your mouth off and give us all the details.
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  19. TwoUp

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    Sure you can with a VPN service or a cloud proxy or privacy network like TOR.

    Take your pick.
     
  20. TwoUp

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    The IRS is nothing compared the tentacles of the Australian Tax Office, they don't need cooperation of spouses or brother inlaws to fuck you over.

    There is only one place on earth they have low viability of and that's Macau gambling ships which operate in international waters outside even China's official government control.

    Unofficial treaties with island nations also report any activity involving an Australian otherwise they stand to loose their generous "foreign aid" payments.

    Even though gamblers are not taxed they still track EVERYTHING. We have individuals who turnover more than 3 billion a year gambling who are not operating a business and pay no tax.
     

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