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Baccarat Baccarat - the best small business

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Lungyeh, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    LY is the only person on earth that I have discussed MM strategy with that understands the ups & downs, the "Chimp," and the 20 times the base value for bets. I'm still learning from him.

    Nobody else has come close.

    This thread is about business. Well business ain't bean bags.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My preferred casino has limited play, only two or three people per table. All the restaurants are closed except for take out only. The movie theater is closed. Must wear a mask, Must have your temp taken at the door. So it's nowhere back to normal.
     
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    Here in Vegas almost back to 100% capacity. Target date is 06/01
    Did you get vaccinated? It's easy here in the US. India needs help.
     
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  4. Lungyeh

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    Giz, posting bits and pieces of correspondences wont do your case any good.

    I have told you to move on so move on. I skimped through some of our correspondences. I think in total it looks like US$5k remitted to you in 2 transfers.

    I wish it wouldnt come to this. You take bits and pieces to try and justify your position. You try to deny your responsibilities. The temerity of it all to have the audacity to say it recently on this thread that it taught you a lesson not to take money from strangers and there should have been an agreement.


    So I’m asking for your help in raising $3,800, or $4,840 to get me
    into a position where I will no longer be motivated to find a miracle
    in playing Roulette. If not, perhaps you could help me find a way to
    raise this or part of this money. I couldn't even dream of raising
    the full amount of $11,000 to purchase the trailer. But it would not
    surprise me to think that you might just know of a way to solve that.
    Now you know the core reason I try to win. I would love to stop
    gambling and believe there is a solution out there somewhere.
    Thanks for any help you might offer,

    Not so nice to do this. Giz, please move on. Jae, do me a favour and drop the matter.

    Peace
     
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  5. Jae

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    I thought I was offering you the deal of a lifetime with $10,000. Which believe it or not, I was 100% prepared to pay out.

    I owe you an apology, and I am sincerely sorry for calling you a scammer. That was not projecting, as you called it, I detest scammers. The casino takes enough money from the players, we shouldn’t be stealing it from one another. In the correspondence that you showed me (and I appreciate that by the way), it does appear as though you technically do not owe anyone any money as he clearly stated his expectations.

    It also shows that you might have some mild retardation or semi-serious brain damage as you literally had an opportunity of a lifetime to show your worth and in the end showed that you’re a loser. (Sorry again, but I’m just stating facts, you lost). You should not have gone into business with anyone with your dog shit ideas, and I get it, you are anti mechanical systems and stroke your ego with your random stuff. I’m attacking you on this front because I’m assuming that you indeed are a loser. I 100% doubt you could show anyone or prove to anyone that you aren’t, and you have in fact been in this game for a long time. You don’t have to be a loser, you don’t have to continue pushing your bullshit on other people. Get off of your own sinking ship. This is the best thing you can do for yourself. Definitely do not accept any money from anyone in the future, you are not capable of turning a profit for yourself; nonetheless, someone else for that matter.

    Taking the $2,000 wasn’t smart. At the very least, you should feel somewhat guilty, and perhaps you do. If so, at least it means you have a conscious. While you performed the work, that’s not shit. I bet LY worked harder for that $2,000 than you did losing it. He offered you 50/50. Which at the least you could give him back half. That’s essentially an apology for giving someone hope that you are a capable player (which you’re not).

    you call me a bad businessman... you also asked what I would do with that, probably not questioning the offer if it had been extended to me, but I’ll tell you anyways:

    If I were in the early stages of an idea I truly believed in and saw real potential after vigorous testing, I would work at building a bankroll and play it. That’s assuming no one offered to back me, in your scenario I would have accepted the offer to go to Malaysia. From that point I would meet up with Mr. LY and discuss the serious goals of our joint venture. At 50/50, there would have to be a goal to show my loyalties and maybe a bit beyond because he would have been one of the primary key sources for my success, you can’t quite turn your back on that or bite the hand that feeds. There would be a point after reaching the agreed upon goal where I would feel an obligation to continue showing my support for him even though at which point I would have enough money to support my operation and make 100% profits. Since he is just an investor I could cut him out completely, but you don’t do that to valuable partners and you don’t put all the risk on them, I would be compelled to accept half the risk in this scenario, even if I didn’t have the money upfront. Instead, you work together to figure out how you can expand while still making the type of money you would on your own, but not only keeping him on board, but even increasing his earnings. You have a commitment at that point to continue making money for him even when you know you could be making more without. And, one could say it’s just business, companies fire CEO’s that founded the company all the time. I think it’s rotten, but it just shows the character of the people in that decision making process. Loyalty and integrity are a big part of my personal business mottos. Business to me isn’t just about making money, there are more important things.

    again, I don’t think you are a scammer anymore and I apologize profusely for making that assumption and jumping the gun. At least if you were, you’d be a shitty one. $2,000 isn’t anything in the big picture, it’s just a foundation. You’ve destroyed that foundation in my opinion even though LY is a very nice guy and looks like he doesn’t have any issues with you as a person. You just aren’t cut out for professional baccarat or business in general.

    You’re also an asshole for taking the money. By doing so and losing, you burned LY into giving up trying to help people with actual good ideas that could have actually had a great partnership with him. Your ideas suck more than my gutter side gig. You’re a brown nosing wannabe know-it-all that is stuck on his own detrimentally bad ideas. Feel free to prove me wrong. Post sone action. I only make about 10% of my bankroll everyday, but I know 1000% that you could never come close to matching my percentage longer than a month straight. I’ve seen you talk shit on my method, which just fortifies my opinion on how dumb you are in general.

    Honestly, I am relieved that you’re not quite the scum that I had previously thought. You’re just dumb, and that’s okay. I actually pity you and slightly feel bad that you burned such a great opportunity doe yourself, but I’m glad that you only blew through $2,000 instead of $50,000. In my opinion, that’s already self-redeeming a bit.

    Cheers my good man!
     
  6. Jae

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    I just posted a reply and didn’t see this comment until afterwards. I will drop it, it’s really sad, I actually started to feel some pity for him. I thought I was the asshole for calling him a scammer, when he showed me bits and pieces of a correspondence to try and justify himself, and then I see that it was more than $2,000 and that he’s a desperate never, that totally puts him back in the scammer and liar category for me. But I’ll let it go. He saw my offer, it no longer stands because he’s showed his ass too much. Not that he had the money to pay back anyways or ever would if he did.

    LY, I admire your ability to let this go, your ability to even continue talking to a person of this character. Maybe you have a bigger heart than me and I consider myself a bit of a bleeding heart, you’re just a big person. I hold too much resentment and hostility towards bad people. I need to work on that maybe. Okay I’m done talking about Giz. Hopefully anyone that has read these correspondences can see his nature and never support him. But to each their own.
    Cheers!
     
  7. Myrtlejones

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    OMG i was in Vegas 40 years ago and at that time BACCARAT was not as big as is now, i will tell you this, it was a well known play way back in time, OG is a loser i can tell you from the best gamblers in the world, i have been there this was in play way back in time
     
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  8. Jae

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    Here on Connecticut, I mostly go to Mohegan, and Foxwoods is my backup. Really, the biggest difference between now and precovid is that less people are permitted to table games. Roulette, blackjack, baccarat have a 3 person limit and you have plexiglass between the players. A lot of people are standing around waiting for someone to get up from a table most of the time. Most of the hundreds of stadium baccarat machines are open with plexiglass between the units. The real difference is that we wear masks and people have to smoke outside. Restaurants are open, I’ve gotten used to it. It’s not normal, but I suppose it’s the new normal.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I think it was $5,500. The last one was me trying to execute a for sure belief that I had discovered TurboGenious' system for a few hottest numbers. Sorry about that one.
     
  10. Myrtlejones

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    Listen i have made the rounds and know what i am talking about, before online you would die trying to do what this guy says
     
  11. Jae

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    OG is a loser. One of the most, if not most conservative losing progression in most games. Roulette for instance, even on a European wheel, OG can’t survive because nothing hits more than 50%. Same can be said about every other game as well I believe. OG will always win on banker in baccarat. As in, a series will always be completed in any infinite amount of simulations. Because banker wins more than 50% of the decisions. You can lose money in a long series due to commission, but you CAN win more series that make up for it.

    As far as a person playing, they can lose to OG. Even if the player completely understands the system and plays it perfectly, their bankroll will not survive certain swings. And you don’t have to survive all of them, you have to simply make more than you lose, and I know for a fact that it can be done.

    I am not trying to encourage everyone to play this method. It’s not for you obviously, and it’s not for everyone. It requires a lot of elements that some people don’t have. Most considerably the finances to back it up. The patience, the win goals, the losses, etc.
     
  12. Jae

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    I don’t even play online, and actually don’t even know what that statement means. Again, I’m not particularly trying to advocate what I do. I rely on people doing other things so that there is money to be made. But telling me that you’ll die doing what I do, is not only your opinion, your opinion is also wrong. By this time next year I’ll be almost 4 million in the green. Where will you be?
     
  13. Lungyeh

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    The Malaysian vaccination process is really slow. Phase 1 was for the frontliners. Then Phase 2 for senior citizens and then Phase 3 to be for the rest. We are still in Phase 2. I am due for the first dose end May. Taking Astra Zeneca to jump queue. If Pfizer or Sinovac, they cannot confirm a date yet.

    Apparently the only casino resort in Malaysia (Genting which is the holding company for Resorts World, also in the US) managed to get all their staffs vaccinated as a priority! Money talks.

    Its a scenic 90 minutes drive from where I am but I try to stay away from it for business reasons.
     
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  14. Myrtlejones

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    Good day sir but if you mention Roulette to me then i know you have not done the same home work i have done, may the gambling GODS make you MILLIONS AND MILLIONS but you are now talking to the master and i am still playing after 45 years of GAMBLING, in the real world that does not exist because i have seen more then most, i have seen this system in action it is older in parts of the COUNTRY BUT
     

  15. gizmotron

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    I know I was a loser. I knew it when he offered it. I was on my way to becoming a real-estate developer, well on my way long before all this. I had a perfect storm of life changing events wreck it all. The short story. It was the worst thing to ever happen. I trained all my life to be a skilled expert at everything it took to build a custom home. I had built at least 50 where I was the prime contractor and in some cases the owner. It all blew up in my face. It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?" That's what I mean.

    When LY and I were talking about all this we talked a lot about self control. I was pathetic back then. In fact because of all this I was ready to give up. But as I have said before, someone here posted a video about trading stocks like a casino. The short story is that I found a way to achieve self control. I created a set of strict rigid rules to keep me on the straight and narrow.
    I was never ready for Malaysia. I didn't want to go there and blow $50,000.

    I don't mind telling my failings. It is from that that all my successes in life all started. LY is an amazing person. Who knows what gambling investments that he has kept secret. My story got out there and I own it. I put it out there because in the beginning he wanted me to let people know that he gave it to me. I wanted to keep it secret because I didn't want people hounding him. It got out there and it put a bullseye on my back. So what. I've been clobbered tons of times in martial arts training. I crashed and lived to tell about it many times in the extreme sports world. I'm resilient. I like both the good and the bad. LY is a classy dude. Yes, lets move on.
     
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  16. Jae

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    So, you can beat the game of roulette long-term? Which one of these strategies do you use?

    1) checking doe a biased wheel (good luck finding one)
    2) cheating (using a laser to monitor the rpm’s of the wheel and a computer to calculate the neighborhood of the ball drop

    or neither and you just talk big, but can’t actually beat the game long-term. Because roulette is a favor house favored game. No mechanical system or flat-betting can or will ever beat roulette without cheating. You can be lucky short term. That’s it. Unlike OG that’s been around for just a little over 50 years, roulette has been around for centuries and you have not mastered it. But I won’t argue, you can win this one and pretend like you’re the first person to truly discover how to beat it long-term. But kidding yourself isn’t doing you any favors. Expand your horizons brother.
     
  17. Jae

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    That’s a good response my dude. Failure sucks, and from one contractor to another, I get the dream. I’ve always planned, and still plan on buying and owning investment properties. I suffered a similar downward spiral that took me to baccarat as a business, a means to an end if you will. With the biggest difference being that I financed my own plan and was successful with it. I’m sorry that it didn’t work out for you. But if you’re still able bodied, don’t give up the dream! As far as development goes, but maybe give up baccarat, or at least get back to the drawing board and save up a bankroll. I know it’s hard, but with patience and the right method, it’s achievable.
     
  18. Myrtlejones

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    JAE my man not trying to knock you out and what i am saying is ROULLETE is a loser game, not trying to say anything but a great gambler does not mention this game, meaning it is a FAILURE, In my world of gambling do not talk about ROULLET i am trying to say i have seen your system play out 30 years ago and was not a winner back then but think you may have an edge that is all TALKING BACCARAT
     
  19. gizmotron

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    Jae, I was going to show you the proof that I taught someone in 60 days to get to a 2 to 1 win to loss ratio using my rigid rules for self control. After I knew for sure that others could do this I waited one year and then published the Reading Randomness thread here. That will be two years ago in July. But now I kind of like that you will pass it up and be one of those that I wrote it for in the first place. It's the HG. I gave it all away because I knew that most people would reject it. And in the end they will have passed up on a real working Holy Grail.

    Thank you for being so right while you still think that you are. And thank you for one day seeing what you did to yourself.

    In the old days around camp four in Yosemite we would not talk about what we had climbed that day. We did that so that some impressionable newbie would not go off on an ego trip and get themselves killed. I wrote the Reading Randomness thread just so know-it-all experts would have had the chance to pass it up. It's the same old school mentality. Don't get the kids killed. But in this case it is backwards. Let the jerks find out once it is too late. Jae, I have you right where I want you. You are perfect the way you are now.
     
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  20. Lungyeh

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    THE GREAT OAK TREE FROM THE LITTLE ACORN GROWS.

    As I have continuously made the point that if one cannot handle small money, what makes him think he can handle big money?

    I have a ex classmate who came to the great US of A and earned some qualifications in film making. Rich family background and the family funded his interests. He came to me to help arrange funding for his film with Morgan Fairchild I haven’t made my money then but knew people who have the money). @25 years ago. I politely turned it down. In the many years since he has been looking for big funds to do big films. I advised him to find a niche and do it small and make it a success and the big money will come. He was adamant he can start with a bang. And over the years new graduates have overtaken him and he remain in search of his dreams when he could have had a headstart.

    With Netflix now in the scene, I hope he can get something.
     
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