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Baccarat Backyard Baccarat Video Lessons for Oscar’s Grind

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, May 3, 2021.

  1. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Lol rlmfao, read and comprehend Jae already gave advice re bankroll building etc. Are you sure there’s not more than one person using your account crapes? There is a disparity between your posts of favouring Jae and the ground he hovered above to this tome of doubt, and deny the facts he’s put on the treads.
    Oops I forgot you have the only lol lmfaro winner way , how’s the day job plenty of overtime to cover? Cheers
    Lol
     
  2. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Actually I find his ability is questionable at the best of times, although I do give him some slack because he’s watching so many players he deals to that he regurgitate some semi interesting stories.
    Jae keep on doing your stuff, 90% of posters and readers could not do it. They will try and cut you down to size. Here in skippy island we call it “tall poppy syndrome”
    good luck to you and your method, remember you are not them so who gives a flying fuk. Cheers
     
  3. Lungyeh

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    Judge, how is your experience so far doing Jae n his team are doing? Appreciate if you can share.. thanks
     
  4. Baccplayer99

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    Here’s my sharing playing Jae’s OG system.

    I started on 3 May with $10,000 playing 20/unit in an online casino.

    1st day was not good. I waited for -20 to start my bets but the shoe was player intensive. It went to -300+ and eventually recovered after 3 shoes. But I was still down 76 units after banker commission.

    2nd day I waited for -50 to -100 before starting. All was good and I made 200+ units.

    3rd day made 200+ units.

    4th day made 200+ units. Started to bet on player if the trigger of -100 was met.

    5th day waited very long for the trigger to appear. Decided to call it a day with +120 units.

    After 5 days I am up $16,600.

    Based on my play, max drawdown betting on banker was -400+ and max drawdown betting on player was -500+.
    So far, I have always managed to recover the long grind by the 3rd shoe.
     
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  5. Lungyeh

    Lungyeh Well-Known Member

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    Cool. Is it possible to win grind on repeats? Player bet Player. Banker bet Banker.
     
  6. Baccplayer99

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    It should be possible to win on repeats but I don't recommend it if you are playing online. Reason is I only have 25 seconds in between bets and I have to record the count correctly and place the bets.

    It is very likely to get confused and get the counts wrong if you are betting on both sides and the mistakes will be harder to spot as well especially when you are in a long grind.
     
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  7. judge

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    I don't know about how Jae and his team are doing, you'll need to get with Jae on that one. As far as my testing goes, I have played over 30 sessions and I am up over 600U. My largest bet has been 202U I believe. I don't know how many shoes that is because I only count sessions not shoes. Most folks would frown on this but it works for me.
     
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  8. Lungyeh

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    Congrats Judge. If your largest bet was at 202 units, what was your drawdown then?

    Bankroll and unit bets? Jae has been very accommodating answering questions here and privately. Polite and suave.

    Thank you for your input for discussions. Stay blessed; you and yours.
     
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  9. Craps

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    It boggles the the mind when your unit is $10 which you can hardly find in BM casinos and the bet is 202 which is $2020 on B. If lose you are going to do it again and again. Forget about whether or not you are in a method or approach using OG.
    Down say $10k and chasing 2 k each time on B only and making a come back each time? This needs more validation don't you think?
     
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  10. Lungyeh

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    I tend to see things that Judge made a typo error or was momentarily confused. Nice guy need not post anything. I just cajoled Judge to share because I remembered he says this approach suited his circumstances. Cool it bro. Things would be more cordial if some of us are less caustic towards one another.
     
  11. Craps

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    The True Math of when there is decision between B and P, B is 50.86% and P is 49.32%
    So in lay man 's term, only 68 hands more with B out of 10000. Not even I more per shoe after commission. This is miniscule and cannot be used as a guide to think betting B only is superior. IMO.
     
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  12. Jimske

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    Yes, most folks would frown . . . and for good reason. LOL That's like 6 units a session on average even if you don't keep track of time played each session. If each session is an hour that's terrific even if the unit is only $5.00 If each session is 8 hours not so much. But . .. if unit is $100.00 then a whole different story. Get the picture?:)
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    Looking at my small test of 50 shoes and only 21 actually played due to the -20 unit wait I come up with 10.96 net units per shoe played. We are looking to recoup 20 units or near that since sometimes we run over a few units and need to recoup 21 or 23, like that. It's the commission on a few of the longer grinds that ate up most of what would be about 20 units gross.

    At a $5.00 game that equates to about $55.00 per shoe played or $25.00 per hour if you count hours and a shoe takes an hour..

    If one is using $25 base units that equates to about $275.00 a shoe. If one could win 1.27 units a shoe a la soxfan the toddler then one could flat bet $200.OO and get the same results with a lot less risk or so it would appear.

    Could one do just as well or nearly as well flat betting?

    J
     
  13. judge

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    Yeah I get the picture.
    Yeah, I get the picture...I just thought if I played 30 sessions and won 600U that would average about 20U a session but you're the mathlete
    Yeah, I get the picture or at least I thought I did. I just thought that 600U divided by 30 sessions was 20U avg per session but you're the mathlete.
     
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    Sorry about that I meant the count got as high as -200+. I think the units bet was maybe 22-25, I just dont remember. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
     
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  15. Jae

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    thank you for clarifying that. That was stuck in my head for hours. There’s not very many grinds that really clinch my butt cheeks, but when my bet gets up to 100 units or more (which it has, and it will again) I really have to focus and be ready to accept that I’m about to be wiped out. When you said 200 units, but didn’t say you lost... the only scenario I played out was you came packing with a really big bankroll, or it stayed in the low -negative hundreds for the grind and you just ran into a ton of chops and recovered.

    either way, glad to see it’s been working for you so far. I wish you continued success.
     
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  16. Lungyeh

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    My earlier post had speculated a typo error. Peace.
     
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  17. judge

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    Thank you for all your help. How long does it normally take to play a shoe in stadium baccarat? I assume its the same amount of time for every hand.
     
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  18. Jae

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    you have 25 seconds to make a bet, and then it depends on the dealer. The fortunate part about stadium is that hundreds of people are playing, so I want to assume they have their best dealers on the game. A fast dealer cam knock out a shoe in 40-45 minutes. A slower dealer usually takes about an hour.
     
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    Query, what was the largest bet in units that you had to make. Buckin up against Oscar grinds with just 500 units takes a lotta balls, hey hey.
     
  20. Jae

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    I agree, it is ballsy. I think the longest I ever gone without seeing -500 is about 120 shoes. But I’ve also had a day where it went -500, and literally two shoes after recovering it did it again. It was a shit day and we only made 14 units after 9 hours of play. Historically our second worst day as a 4 person team.
     

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