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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by varmenti, Mar 4, 2018.

  1. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I am 15 miles away from Atlantic City I can be there and make money and go back home several times a day. I can try everything that I learn or read about in a heartbeat. I do not want to do it on the computer or online I want the real money. And I'm doing it.
     
  2. stephen

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    Why drive 15 miles each way in this weather, when you can play online at the convenience of your home in NJ?
     
  3. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    50 degrees wtf?
     
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  4. Rustyshackleford

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    i love you John Blerg, will you ever take down the casinos? maybe if you had Turbo genius as a partner at those roulette tables at ballys or caesars you can teach them whos boss!
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

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    ROFLMAO.
     
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  6. Nathan Detroit

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    What a team Turbo and Glenda .
     
  7. Mcvince

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    Whatever you use to gauge the tempo of the shoe, use both VSAP and your way as a checks and balances. VSAP says one thing and your way says another equals no bet. If you know about VSAP you have to know about SAP 20. Best bet in the entire game.
     

  8. Blitz

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    Thank you Vince.

    I do know, but usually i am out before it happens. 16 is something that happens in 100% of the shoes and 20 90-95% but i would say that its more reliable than 16. Do you wait 20 even if you win/lose until then ?
     
  9. Mcvince

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    I sent you a personal message containing my email. You get it?
     
  10. Mcvince

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    Without divulging the strategy, I have said on here that there are things that happen 100%of the time. The responses that I have received in response to my revelation I feel that I have 4 eyes on my head. For a person that has played Vinsap can you confirm that everything I said was true?
     
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    I can say that vinsap relies on something that happens 100% of the time in every shoe. Like you said, thing that we can not control is will it happen exactly when we bet on it. But you will be right more times then wrong since it happens in 100% of the shoes.

    I got your message, will contact you.
     
  12. Jimske

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    Somewhere I have an explanation of Vinsap. It was a derivative of Ellis' "weighted" counts. Meaning a comparison of the number of repeat lengths (Sputnik calls them "series") to the averages. But Vinsap uses "unweighted" counts. Meaning it compares the number of 1's, 2's and 3+ IAR. If I recall the bets are placed based on the differences between these categories and I believe you need a difference of 2. So, for example, if there are {2} 1's and (4) 2's you might have a bet.
    Here is an example from my file showing a shoe with the unweighted elements.
     

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  13. Mcvince

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    Great job at trying to out VinSap without my permission. Just when I think you are a nice guy, you show your true colors. The joke is on you, that is not VinSap. That is nowhere VinSap. Great job Jim.
     
  14. Jimske

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    What joke? You brought it up. If you didn't want to discuss it why bring it up? This is a site for Bacc discussion isn't it? So attached the Vinsap examples. I got a write up somewhere. I'll look for it. I'm not endorsing or criticising. Just thought it would be a good discussion. Maybe you'd like to explain it?
     

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  15. Mcvince

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    It would be a great discussion if it was the actual system but it isn't it and Blitz could confirm it. You tried to out it. I'm not outing it on a public forum. True professional you are.
     
  16. Mcvince

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    Jimske, I can't imagine how pissed I would be if you outed the real VinSap. I don't care what your notes say from another incompetent player. To try and out something that someone worked very hard on is just bush league on your part and goes towards your lack of character. If you ever get the real one and try it out, I don''t care whether you like it or not, whether you critique it and say it is the worst thing in the world. You are a piece of shit in my book. I was getting to like you too.
     
  17. Jimske

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    I didn't try it out nor do I intend to and I'm not claiming anything about how it is played. Just putting out information for discussion. Look, you have every right to start your own proprietary site or invite anyone to a private discussion. Do that but don't expect to come in to this public forum and have a private discussion. It's not fair to the members.

    Anyhow here is what I have on SAP 20. Looks like it uses the average run lengths.
     

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  18. Jimske

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    Grow up!
     
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  19. Mcvince

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    I can pick and choose who I disclose this to or not to. It is a public forum and I have that right. I wish you were not the pussy you are and closed your private messages to me. Guess what, VinSAP is copyrighted. You got SAP20 right. From your explanation on it, you don't know why it works which is the main thing. SAP20 is copyrighted also. Thanks for distributing a copyrighted document without my permission.
     
  20. Jimske

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    Hmmm. I didn't know I closed PM's to you or anyone else. If anyone is trying to PM me and can't let me know. I wasn't aware. I don't pay a lot of attention to the settings.

    I don't know why you are so upset. I just thought readers would like to understand a little more about what you're talking about. You said it's not correct so what's the big deal.
     
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