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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by varmenti, Mar 4, 2018.

  1. varmenti

    varmenti Member

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    Ok first I just want to say right off the bat, so we can just get real... "You're an idiot!!!"

    If you watched my "Partner betting Video" IT'S AUTOMATIC... NO GUESSING INVOLVED.

    You're just basing your opinion after seeing the first bet of $25 each on both banker and player (In your mind you're saying "What an idiot... does he not know he can save 5% banker commission by simply avoiding this bet)

    The fact is the Partner betting strategy was designed for TWO independent players that simply follow suit in an automated game with structured progressive betting techniques that involve no thinking.

    If Two players buy in at the $25.00 table, they will average betting approx $3,000 per hour following my positive netting progression and complimenting the loser with a starting $25.00 chip.

    SO IF YOU CAN GET YOURSELF PAST THE STARTING BET, THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE MANY POSITIVE BENNEFITS IN BETTING THIS WAY IN THE VIDEO.

    SO RATHER THAN SHOOT YOUR PIE HOLE ON HERE AND START BASHING ME YET AGAIN... GO TAKE UP A NEW HOBBY BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT REFUSE TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND ON SIMPLE AUTOMATIC STRATEGY, DON'T BELONG IN THE BUSINESS.

    For your information that video was taken in 2013 and it is 2018 now and my wife and I still play this way and still profit from it... so kind sir... SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE and listen.

    "You play a way that capitalizes on opportunities that occur 100% of the time" Sorry but already played shoes don't count... again you're an idiot to think this is so.
     
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  2. Mcvince

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    I play professionally and played four shoes today and won them all with ease. I have not lost a shoe in three weeks. I don't need to practice anymore. Meet me at Foxwoods and shut my pie hole for me.
     
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  3. varmenti

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    Mcvince "I haven't heard anything from you about me accepting the challenge that you gave to CT. Going to meet me at Foxwoods"

    Why don't you stop hiding from your stupid profile icons and post a real picture of yourself and maybe one day, I'll surprise you at one of the casino visits.

    Come on you super millionaire guru... Just remember... The real pro's hide nothing I'm at Fallsview Casino 3-5 times a week... you can find me anytime... you know what I look like.

    That's great that you're on a winning streak... but remember it's just a temporary loan... Until you can learn "consistency"
     
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  4. Mcvince

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    Foxwoods is halfway between NJ and your place. As far as my pic, no one needs to see what I look like. I am putting my kids through college playing baccarat. I am doing ok. You cannot compete with me, CT or any upper echelon player at BTC.
     
  5. Roubacc

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    I saw your stupid video. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. You’ve been playing wrong for so long and are so set in your ways (that don’t win) that you refuse to listen to people who are winning. You are the worst student and the hardest to retrain because you have so many bad habits that you refuse to break. I’m done wasting my precious time with you. Youre a legend in your own mind, basically a moron.
     
  6. varmenti

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    Again.... If you're not in the game... then you're simply not. If you have nothing better to do but bash and bash without having anything to share then... bye bye... don't let the door hit you on the way out...

    These morons obviously have nothing to bring to the table and share... instead all they got is so much negative remarks built in to their self righteous minds... stupid gamblers such as Roubacc should not speak... they are only qualified enough to listen only...
     
  7. Mcvince

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    Varmenti,

    This is an email I received by a member of the private forum that I helped out. Keep up the trash talking. Ever get one of these emails????


    Hey, McVince. Just wanted to give you a quick update. I have had PHENOMENAL results with VinSap and FTS! I've just been blown away with how accurately the SAP count can expose the bias in a shoe. I cannot thank you enough for your help!

    VinSap ...I have no idea why this works, but it does. The shoes just love numbers
     
  8. jbs

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    Apparently you and he don't understand short term variance. He'll be broke in no time.
     
  9. Mcvince

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    My bank account begs to differ.
     
  10. varmenti

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    Guy's... it's good to know that we are all on the same side and should learn from each other.
     
  11. varmenti

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    Question 1) what is the email dated?
    Question 2) is it consistent?

    Proving a "winner" is good, but one must also prove it's failure to be most proficient.
    when I get introduced to trying out a new strategy... I like to see it from both directions...
    1) I'd like to see if there is 100% loss or is there an offering of taking home part of your bank roll as part of the "Loss" session.
    2) Assuming the strategy wins 100% ... then ask yourself... what else is needed.
     
  12. Mcvince

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    I received that message on the BTC forum yesterday. Varmenti, instead of arguing with each other in which if you look back it was an argument/debate that YOU created, we should all work as a team. This game is hard enough as it is and the casino keeps on making money. The way I play, you play or anyone else on BTC or this forum does not have a method of play that wins 100% of the time. Sorry, there is nothing that works 100% of the time. Players need to find a way to win MOST of the time consistently. More importantly, you need to have a money management strategy that can absorb losses and still keep you in the positive.
     
  13. varmenti

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    The way I looked at the game:
    1) I factor in the total amount of sessions in play based on a 20 hand limit/per table (approx 60 shoes)
    2) I look at an over all average on vertical Banker/Player streaks | Chops (BPBPBP)
    a) average 3 shoes out of the 60 will show a continuous run of 11+ in a row.
    b) average 10 shoes out of the 60 will show a continuous run of 8 in a row. (This includes Chops)
    c) average 50 shoes out of the 60 will show a continuous run of 5 in a row. (More Consistent)
    3) If we focus on going for that 11+ in a row then we might as well dream, because it doesn't happen enough to consistently make a profit due to the fact that we never know when it will happen or at what table it will happen.
    4) We do know that at any given session we will hit those shoes with runs of 5 in a row (This is where I base my opportunity for making money at these tables) from simply cashing in with progressive betting $25 chips 1,2,3,5,6 try to catch a couple before the 20 hand limit.
     
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  14. varmenti

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    As far as the actual betting, I use the Bet-In-Behind last method (allows to catch both the vertical streaks and chops) This is a much more standard ASIAN style of play.

    I've incorporated an XXX Strike out in place of the 20 hand limit allowing for a more advanced way of play giving more opportunity for higher streaks/runs.

    for example:
    in many cases you will see shoes looking like BBBPBBBBBPBBBPBB By utilizing the X (strike out after run changes and pretending it was a mistake and should have not happened) basically shows a better outcome BBBBBBBBBBBBB (13 Bankers in a row) Minus the 3 x B loses when P showed.

    I incorporate the X only after runs of 3 or more.
     
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    you know nothing about baccarat varmenti. Mcvince have you ever consider betting LC following high CM? just curious :)) I been once BTC PV member. :))
     
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    truong thien You're an idiot. If you have something to say newbie, just say it or shut the fuck up.
     
  17. Mcvince

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    Betting on LC is a tough one. In theory you are betting against things that are not happening. If your SAP count is at or near equal you can bet on the LC. If you were a member of BTC then you would know what MDB is. In certain MDB scenarios, I would bet LC but it is few and far between. I played MDB exclusively for a bit. It is a real grind. With my style of play, I don't bet every hand and that is a grind but nothing compared to MDB. MDB in certain scenarios has the best hit rate that I ever seen.
     
  18. truong thien

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    Yes I do know MDB. Can I ask you 1 more thing. do you still chart the SAP count as b4 1-2-4 I really don't think the weight is fair enough let say 2's has 4 ( 21222) and the count is 8 and 3's+ has 4 aswell but the count is 16 since there we only bet 2 stay 2 or 2 go to 3, so right here you consider 3's as high CM? they should be equal dont they? I seen your post somewhere saying that you came up with a system called 3 collum and it is SAP I'm just curious about the count :) thanks Mcvince.
     
  19. Mcvince

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    I am using an unweighted SAP count with three columns. I am not comfortable discussing BTC stuff on this forum. Let's just say if you stick to the three columns and don't start chasing the streaks you will find yourself winning more than you are losing.
     
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    I'm sorry to mention BTC stuff on here I don't comfortable either. But by far as I known the SAP count can't rely on. Thanks a lot for your advice. Many years I really put all the hard work to make the SAP to win consistently but I cannot. 4-5 years ago I remember Papa Joe came up the system called SAP exploits i learn the system for couple months and using it but on long term I found it break even. about MDB sure it work sometimes but I found MDB will get kill in a bias shoe. Can you give me a little hint about unweighted count? I know it is ''secret'' just asking for hopes.. :)))
     
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