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Baccarat BET SELECTION CC - SHADY DEALING

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by R19, May 12, 2018.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I wish Jackie would start hitting in that 9th positon.
     
  2. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My wish came true! Jackie been instrumental! Go Sox! Marcus pretty amazing.
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Back to biz. So this is meant to be constructive criticism, Glen.

    Reason you don't get a lot of feedback from posts (other than the fact that there is always a general apathy to these sites) is that, IMO, your stuff is way too wordy with a lot of unnecessary chatter about totally unrelated stuff in the topic you are responding to. Do your really think peeps want or need to hear how you pulled a truck out of a ditch or how many red peppers you ate for dinner to improve your immune system? See, I read it - but only because I was interested in reading what Sputnik had to say about Sequence and your "suggestion." His response was very magnanimous but maybe you should read between the lines.

    To be frank I find your stuff largely incoherent, lacking of defined definition, specific explanations or clear examples. Most of your stuff is dotted with criticisms of others' play while patting yourself on the back about your own play. Pandas, F7's, naturals . . .? You reference these things a lot but never offer any concrete information as to how to pick same.

    You jumped into Sputnik's rather detailed thread of bias states with your own theories and suggestion which, if implemented as defined by you, would completely negate everything Sputnik is attempting to accomplish.

    So rather than trying to understand what he's doing you'd just rather put yourself back in the limelight as the local Baccarat Guru.
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  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Since I'm not allowed to post to .cc I will comment on Sputniks Sequence thread which I find very interesting. Reason is I tend to relate to the concept of "bias states" and how one can define them because that's similar to what I do in my play. Not to say this is the only way to slice and dice but just happens to be similar.

    Sputnik understood from BTC that NOR is also looking for bias states but uses a count to define them. As McVince and Sputnik pointed out the count is not accurate enough to make the appropriate changes. {Sidebar: I could be technically wrong but I don't believe NOR is the property of BTC and therefore not proprietary to that site. It was the invention of E. Clifton Davis who is banned from BTC.) Glen did recognize in his response that biases do change very frequently (turning points) - no breakthrough there - so one could use them for bet placement changes. But Glen doesn't go further. OTH, Sputnik is attempting to mechanize the changes with a betting system. This is something I haven't been able to achieve. Success in this manner would be a HUGE advance taking any guesswork on placement or betting out of the picture.

    I'm still not understanding the Sputnik method. It is food for though and I will take some of my voluminous live data to see if I can "reverse engineer" it to fit his bias states.
     
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  5. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Regarding LC and MC that someone asked Sputnik about and which he declined to explain as a part of his proprietary BTC membership. This is another ECD invention so is not really proprietary to BTC. The BTC people may use it differently. FYI. LC = lowest common occurrence. MC = most common occurrence.

    When one looks at average decision lengths (1's, 2's, 3's and so on; each 1/2 the occurrence of the other) we can use what Ellis called a "weighted" count which would give each occurrence a value that related to it's average. So for instance if there was 4-3's and 1-2 in half the shoe the 3's would be MC because we only expect 4 in the whole shoe. The 2 would be LC because we would expect average to be about 4 by half the shoe. Anyone can see the flaws in this system.

    So BTC people rightly decided to use an unweighted count and eliminate lengths of 4's or more. Sputnik has done a similar thing with his "Bias States."
     
  6. gizmotron

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    Glen just posted a thread where he tries to explain how to play and avoid the common pitfalls that tend to wreck most player's chances over at the cc forum. There is no question that he has a ton of experience and knows what live play at a B&M casino is all about. It's good.
     
  7. Jimske

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    I'll just repeat since you apparently didn't read. I guess you missed my point. Has nothing to do with your compliments to Glen but I'm sure he appreciates it.

    "You jumped into Sputnik's rather detailed thread of bias states with your own theories and suggestion which, if implemented as defined by you, would completely negate everything Sputnik is attempting to accomplish.

    So rather than trying to understand what he's doing you'd just rather put yourself back in the limelight as the local Baccarat Guru."
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I get that. I was a maxed out zoomed dweeby myself. Then I became the most important, completely unknown, Renaissance Man of our times. It bothers me a few times a year. But I have learned to control all that and to hold the entire universe in contempt in order to keep my sanity. Just think. I have kept the Holy Grail, that really works, from every forum that I have participated in. All this stuff about randomness and perfect patterns is just me stepping on everyone else for my own attention and gratification. Glen does like to inject himself a lot. But I don't think that he does it on purpose like I do.
     
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  9. Jimske

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    Nice segue for an advertisement Giz.

    Here's my suggestion. Go to the casino, play your Holy Grail. Win as much money as you feel like then go ahead and give it to the world. That way you'll have plenty of money and you'll go down in history as a man who cracked roulette and you'll be famous.

    That sounds like gratification to me. So what's your problem?
     
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  10. John Blerg

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    Sorry to say but you sound exactly like a republican against the Democrats wow

     
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  11. gizmotron

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    You of all people should have seen this as nothing more than a sarcastic comment. I don't have a holy grail that I have kept hidden. I don't hold the world in contempt. I'm not the greatest human since "Bobs your Uncle." But it is interesting that you didn't see this for what it was. Here is a "segue for an advertisement Giz." I'm taking up one student at a time and I'm charging up the wing wang for it too. It is clear to me that people need to be shown step by step how my methods work.

    When I look at Ken's method or Ed's methods as well as John Patrick's methods I'm not sure I understand it all perfectly. It's a good thing to have a real mentor that knows exactly what he is doing and can back it all up with proof.

    But life is way too short to rule out self deprecating humor. I hope you are satisfied with that answer?
     
  12. John Blerg

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    What is .CC??

    Also please answer me something no one ever did, why do some of you come on this board or another board to complain about yet other boards? kind of like a little kids screaming and yelling to his next door neighbor that is mommy or daddy took away his bicycle cuz he was a bad kid at school no?

    Answer if you could tell the truth thank you.
     
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  13. John Blerg

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    What figures, no answer.

    You're kind of like the L A white cop in a black neighborhood you have the same personality, exactly. I'm talking about is an answer for everything but you contribute nothing except the wrong kind of criticism that doesn't do anybody good like I said, the same.

    Or for the record white cop in Detroit same thing or a white cop in Schenectady New York same thing
     
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  14. John Blerg

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    Hi read back to some old posts here getting on an airplane, to go to my family reunions and this guy Jimski is totally infatuated with Glen. Totally ruining Jim's life that appears? I might have it wrong but every other post that he takes time to make, shows his infatuation with Glen and that's a fact.
     
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  15. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Lol
     
  16. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    you say that you are actually lying in your answers and most of your post very confusing.
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    I'm saying that why should I give a damn if almost all interested gamblers get to avoid the natural progression of evolving from the Martingale progression to progressions don't work, mechanical contraptions don't work, rule based methods don't work, and outright anger brought on by pure cynicism won't work. Buying crackpot systems won't work, screwing people over with the truth does not work. That's the very best game of all. Tell the idiots the truth because they are not ready to see it in almost all cases. Get them to publish their ignorance just to see them do it with this new fandangled invention, the internet. Show them what works just to watch them ignore it. It's a blast. There's no reward for it, but you do get idiots to ask you questions. Thanks for the question.
     
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  18. John Blerg

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    I am an idiit. Oops better spell cirrect, idiot.
     
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  20. Nathan Detroit

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    What would happen if there was no Bet Selection . cc ?

    I was with Bet Sel cc since it opened and discontinued posting due to limited personal time .


    Nobody there bothered me .




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