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Baccarat BETTING FLAT...QUEST FOR AN HOLY GRAIL????

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Ok, cut to the chase my bets flat version 2.0 is lookin at +7759,9 units nets profits buckin up against 6136 tested shoe all shoe from live dealt party poker. The worst case draw donws scenario was -83.5 unit. That was the blacks swan event as other wise the worst dar down never exceed -49 unit. So, with my rule of thumbs I need enough bank roll so that no worst case gonna clip me for more than 50 percent of my life time roll. So, I would need 200 units backin my play to run this confident, hey hey.
     
  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Also gotta say that cats need to test sufficient against the minimum 100 shoe and ya gotta test against real legit data. I test my style against the zumma book and soon found myself down over 500 unit, and I also test against the baccarats game on the wizard site and stopped down about 200 unit. So, obviousyly the zumma result are garbages and these computer sim and spreadsheet what most cat test against are worthless. Cats ain't never gonna know if they got a worths while style or not unless they test against legit baccarats result, hey hey.
     
  3. fathead

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    That is excellent, over +1.26 units per shoe, -83.5 unit drawdown for well over 6000 shoes. Maybe you found some anomaly peculiar to Party Poker? I would play your strategy there and nowhere else since that is where you tested. Go get 'em.
     
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  4. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, if u don't mind sharing, ur strategy, I can test on Evolution Gaming" site & update u results of 100 shoes in 3/4 days,thanks
     
  5. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Party poker use hand dealt, hand shuffle eight decks shoe of baccarats so don't know how there could be any anomaly. The only thing they do different is cut two decks from the end rather than 14 card like most mortar and bricks joint but that don't make the difference. Betting mindless robotic bankers only gonna let ya win about 50.7 percents of yer placed bet but I found that by betting bankers only a wee bits more strategic and selective I can bump up my winnings strikes rate to just bit better than 51 percents and that allow me to capture that 1.25 unit nets profits per shoes. It ain't rocket science, baby, hey hey.
     
  6. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I think that the party poker use the evolution gamings feed so I already test buckin up against 6138 tested shoe, thanks, hey hey.
     
  7. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I never used Zumma. One reason is I never had them until much later and collect my own data. The other reason is that I thought they were old shoes probably hand washed, hand shuffled and dealt. From my old clumping days in BJ I thought they might be tainted with clumps which could skewer the result. But I did download the Zumma 1600 and just now looked. Then I grabbed one file with shoes I've played from AC, LV, MS and CT. 2,486 shoes not all complete.

    Zumma 1600 114,073 decisions. B = 57,549 P = 56,124; Or 50.799 and 49.200 respectively

    My Data 174,136 decisions. B = 88,351 P = 85,781; Or 50.736 and 49.260 respectively.

    This begs a couple of questions.
    1. How does Party Poker data compare?
    2. What do you think the problem is with Zumma as the % seem to be just about right?

    J
     

  8. MsAurea

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    I think that there are aspects of this kind of thing because there are just some people who do not believe in some kind of thing. Hopefully, there are a lot of people who will bet well because there are just aspects of gambling that takes a lot of risk. With this kind of thing, there will be some additional aspects that can serve well because there are just some things that can do well. I hope that there are some factors that wil get better because there are just some aspects of the holy grail can be too risky for their own good. It is nice to see though that there are developments.
     
  9. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    With that I’m logging off for a while as for some reason my brain is hurting maybe it’s the flipping of the north magnetic pole from reading but to me everything has suddenly become a uncomprehending miss mash of vowels and consonants my language ability has fallen out of my head . Lol
    Cheers
     
  10. soxfan

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    Still testing and up +7758.65 unit buckin up against 6168 shoe, so pretty much just tread waters for the past 30 shoe or so, hey hey.
     
  11. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    LOL, No doubt waiting for the EV to kick in!
     
  12. soxfan

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    After treading waters for about 30 shoe the style went wild for next nine shoe, hey hey.
    #6169 +7.5 (+7766.15) sa
    #6170 +6.6 (+7772.75) sa
    #6171 +.6 (+7773.35) bc
    #6172 +6.5 (+7779.85) ncb
    #6173 +5.6 (+7785.45) sj
    #6174 +1.55 (+7787) sc
    #6175 +5.5 (7792.5) bc
    #6176 +7.5 (+7800) sc
    #6177 -.45 (+7799.55) sa
     
  13. Jimske

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    I guess party poker is the place to be.
     
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  14. soxfan

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    Testings continue and at 6201 tested shoe I'm lookin at +7850.2 units nets profits, hey hey.
     

  15. Myrtlejones

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    OK Sox fan i just want to get a bit of your mojo, so you are saying you bet, watch, or run programs into 14.051 shoes,i am just trying to understand how you can make money, or and have the time ?
     
  16. soxfan

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    Could you re=phrase that, in English please, hey hey.
     
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    dlouc uoy + esarph taht hsilgne esaelp yeh yeh really, come on man give it to us 1400000000 shoes hey hey
     
  18. soxfan

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    Yup, another retard goes on iggy, hey hey.
     
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    HOLY MOTHER OF GOD i ran 455500000000000000000000 shoes per !54000000000000000000000000000000000 shoes and i passed the fook out, you can separate shoes and limit results, that what i heard

    tell us one thing that is it just one thing
     
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  20. soxfan

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    So, I got zero interest in trying to talks serious baccarats talks with cats what are soooooooooooooooooo freakin retarded that they can't even comprehend how it very easy and possible to test well and sufficient. And I see that the al-relax retard has made the scene to join his compatriot retard, just like old times. hey hey.
     
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