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Roulette Biased historic

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Sharptracker, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. Sharptracker

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    but it's a damn good new though!
     
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    What do you mean?


    I sense that you've tracked for bias before. Am I right?
     
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    Yes i have tracked with a friend few wheels.

    Could you run the same thing on a random data?
     
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    By the way could it be possible to do it only when it concerns a biased number?
     
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    Betting the last three numbers on another biased wheel.
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    Betting the last five numbers below
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    Still a good news, here i don't have -5.6%... still above. Interesting!
     
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    When done on biased numbers, meaning betting on only the biased numbers if they've hit within the last...say...20 spins or so the edge does often increase. But there's a trade off, you're often limiting the number of trials and the number of units that you're going to win. It does slightly reduce drawdowns, but ideally you won't to work form larger horizons.

    Now there is a shot gun type of method that does work on some biased wheels and the drawdowns can be crazy. If you know beyond the shadow of a doubt that a wheel is very biased you can use the shot gut method if you've got a big bankroll.

    It's quite simple. As a number hits, the number of hits represents how much you bet on the number. As numbers fall significantly below even, you drop them. As the sample grows you keeps dropping the dead weight. The edge is low, but it's very real. It's definitely not as efficient as playing the wheel correctly by betting on just the stronger numbers.
     
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    Thanks, for example on a wheel if you play correctly numbers that you'd bet, how is the variance?
     
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    Acording to you, how can it be possible to reduce the edge by betting those last numbers that are not biased? Have you tried to run several 30K random historic?
     
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    Which way of betting are you asking about?
     
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    It depends on the edge. When I play I plan for 400 units of variance if the edge is strong.
     
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    The 3 last numbers.

    Ok and even if you detected the conditions was good to play or without taking consideration of it?
     
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    Betting the last three numbers to have hit on a biased wheel will usually reduce the edge and on rare occasions overcome the house edge. The reason is the numbers that have hit the most recently are more likely to hit.

    Yes, I've tested it over a million trials on biased wheels.

     
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    Thanks, that will be useful to know.

    What about this, you got your biased numbers and you wait for this trigger: 3 hits in 20 spins or less, betting to hit a 4th time.

    Idea would be to wait what seems to be good conditions and try to get good money on the 4th one.
     
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    Yes, I do it sometimes. It's great camouflage, but it does reduce the number of numbers that you have working for you on each spin and it reduces the amount of money that you're going to make.
     
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    Is there any difference if we try to get two hits and bet when the number came out twice and when we wait it hit 3 times? have you tried that? what do you think is better?
     
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    Yes. And Yes. I've tried it every possible way that you can conceive.

    In short the numbers tend to clump when conditions are best. But there's a cost, you collect fewer hits so you've got to increase your bets to win the same amount of money. Again, it's great camo especially if you wait to bet a number until it has hit.

    By the way, rather than focusing so much on if they've hit in the past few spins, keep a closer eye on the playing conditions. Variance is larger than most people can comprehend and what you may think is a change is often just variance.
     
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    Yes variance is very cruel, it could also makes me believe there's a bias while theres nothing and for a long long time... crazy
     
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    Diversify, hire help.

    Pretrack heavily before you play if you're going for the big money. Know the wheel cleaning cycles and avoid them.
     

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