Baccarat Can Martingle work?

You are 100% correct. You are referring to the Marty that hurt you so bad that you will need over thousands of winning bets to recover one loss. I am talking about a 5 step Marty. ( I should have rename this post Can a 5 step Martingle work ) A 5 step Marty only incurred a 31 units loss. If we chart and follow trends we can win more than 31 units before a loss.

The house advantage over a player is the Vigorish.
The gamblers' edge over the house is what to play, when to play or quit and the bet amount.

If you lose your edge, you are totally GAMBLING. If you keep your edge, you are WORKING. What is important is taking care of your losses. The winning side will come.

 

I like that.

Ken

 

During my dealing job, there is not a single player that losses to the house because of house edge. Those edge are marginal. They lose because they gamble. Its nothing wrong with that but if you would like to consistently beat the house and maybe make a living out of it, then you should treat it as work and not play. I mean using a 5 step Marty to win 8 units a day for 8 hrs ls easy to understand but tough to execute cos' we are humans and we get greedy and impatient. Ego gets in the way. That is why I still keep my dealing job. It gives me security and it totally help me in preparing for my every visit to the casinos when I am on the other side of the table.

 

Hi Crap
Can you tell me when you make bet in Trend?
4th or 5th or 6th decision?
ppbb and you bet "p"?
Or. pbpb...bet when?

 

Berichman.
You are asking a very tricky question. A trend can be created in many ways It is basically bet selections for individual liking. Anyway, I armed myself with 10-15 trends. It could be as simple as 3 in a row of the same side, or 4 chops or 2x2 etc. It can be determined with flow of cards too like everytime either side wins WITH 3 cards total of 6,7,8 or 9 follow or against. You can always chart 5 trends when you are new. Bet only when you feel comfortable with a trend and go in to win 1 unit , then chart again. I usually like to bet trends that you don't have to bet immediately after a loss e.g. 3 Banks and lost 5 in a row because PPPPP follows. I prefered 3 Banks and one loss with P, then chart another trend.

 

Crap,
Thanks a lot for answering
After 1unit lost or win, start another trend!

Ok I got it.

 

Hey guys, want to give you my story of martingale play in 2017. It stretched from end of Feb to first week of June. I went 1.5 months of all winning days in the beginning. I was probably up close to 7k than went on a trip to Vegas for 6 days. I was doing amazing the first 5 days. Up over 3k. Last day of the trip I was winning over $700 in the first 2 hours and instead of taking a break I got greedy and played on. I suffered a martingale loss and the 4K in profit became a slightly over 1k in losses. When I got home I took that week off from the casinos. Went to Mohegan sun the following week and using half the unit I did in Vegas, I suffered another martingale loss!. Long story short, after the whole period of close to 5 months of martingale, I suffered 4 martingale losses. Believe it or not, I was in 5k of profit even with those 4 losses. What did me in was my addiction to sports gambling at that time. I lost a little over 5k which killed all my bac profit and my living expenses are close to 3k/month and without a job last year, all my money went up in smoke. So from my experience, martingale can make you money if: you have a nice enough of a bankroll and hopefully there is another source of income if you’re living expenses are quite high. If I had the same amount of money again, I would have a part time job to keep money coming in and doing the same as I did and oh yeah, no sports gambling lol. As for this year, I don’t have that kind of bankroll so my mentor and team devised a new strategy with a lot less bankroll needed and I’m doing amazing.

 

Brokercny,

I know you want the Martingale to work, but you're playing with fire. It's not a money maker. The house edge is still there. You're just increasing the amount of money that you bet..dramatically, and exposing more money to the house edge.

Be careful!

 

In a 5 month period it worked. Longer term, who knows. I ran out of bankroll due to everything else in life other than martingale. Honestly, I think with the type of bet selection I used and the amount of martingale it would work indefinitely if I had a 50k bankroll. I know my mistakes I made last year. Since I don’t have 50k I am not gonna do the martingale. My new strategy is not a do or die situation like a martingale. Of course I can lose on certain days as I already have, but I make money so consistently and quickly that I already made a 5k profit since starting one June 18. I got to 5k profit in a little over a month but I suffered 2 losses in a week which brought my profits down to around 2k. I finally got back to 5k this past week. A couple of more days of winning, I will be doubling my units. This all started with $1100. I haven’t played more than 2 hours a day using this strategy. Some days I leave after 13-16 minutes winning 40+ units. I’m sure I can win another 30-40 units if I decided to stay for another hour, but why be greedy.

 

Brokercny,

You're riding a wave of luck. That's all.

 

Are you referring to my new strategy? Or the previous martingale?

 

Brokercny,

During your 4 martingale losses, how many steps were you playing or you martingale until your BR is gone. Craps recommended to use 5 steps limited martingale (124816 or 31 units only).

 

No idea what the baccarat tables outside of Southern California are doing but I will tell you I see day in and day out, if you only plan on four and five negative progressions,you will lose and you will lose rapidly and quickly.

I see shoes with only four max repeats, for any one side but on a regular basis, i see 6 ans 7, I would say you need at least 8 negative progressions to even think about surviving doing what you're talking about and at times that won't be enough.

go ahead and try,, why don't you document it and come back and report on an honest basis, just stop the drama and wishful thinking.

 

Hey joey, I don’t want to get into details but it’s definitely past 5 step martingale. That’s why I would win so often and losing would give back a huge % of my profits. But like I said, I was still ahead $5k in a 5 month span and I was going to the casinos about 3 to 4/week on the average.

 

Hey Broker
Do you follow trends or patterns or counting or trigger positions?

I will appreciate your answer.
You don't have to tell method..

 

If you're bet selection is any good, then the Martingale is a foolish progression to use.

 

To answer both of you guys at one time, the bet selection method is not really a huge % winner. It’s more of a random process. The combination of the martingale steps and the randomness is the key. I like this strategy but the risk is quite high. If I had a bankroll of 50k or more I would go back to using the martingale but since I don’t, I have a new strategy which wins so much quicker and a risk 50%+ less than martingale. Sometimes I can win in 15 minutes what I can win in 2 hours of martingale.

 

I played tonight for a little longer, had a night off from work. In about an hour and 10 min, picked up 65 units. Even if I’m riding a wave of good luck, at my usual rate of winning, I can double my bankroll in 4-6 visits. So if I win 10+ visits in a row, I’m sitting pretty. I’ve done 21 in a row when I first started this new strategy. It has been improved sightly since than. Keep you guys posted.

 

Read on the history of the Martingale.

 

Dr, i understand martingale is very dangerous. but it worked for me during a 4-5 month period last year. i really think it would have worked for me if i had a larger starting bankroll or if i was working full time for income coming in. anyway, i dont use that technique anymore because the new technique seems to be more effective with a lot less risk. still a high risk about 60% less risk.