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Roulette Coffee break method , play at YOUR own discretion, mathtopian sheriff free thread.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Punkcity, Nov 13, 2021.

  1. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    This is a little something I do when I take a break from baccarat session. I usually pass the roulette stadium as I make my way to one of the cafe/bar/ players area. I posted the basics on rulet thread 37 spins yesterday. I will explain a bit more here on this thread. I will also give a few examples from the roulette simulator. Usually I will only play even chance roulette but sometimes there is no stand out decent/ easy reads of e.c . so I do the coffee break method. It’s a simple no brainer and easily facilitates an easy few units plus it can also ease you into a nice e.chance run. A shout out to gizmo for reading random influences on evchance that have helped me to increase my strike rate in roulette. Cheers

    Not interested in mathtopian input this thread you have said your piece over and over other threads. I will ignore your posts here. I would also ask other posters ( if any ) to refrain from engaging with the mathtopians on this thread. Both Your arguments are valid but not needed here. Cheers

    I will state a disclaimer that this method is NOT ( read again ) NOT

    A) infallible
    B) fully tested to a gazillion runs to infinity time past all immortal lifespans
    C) holy grail of roulette.

    To start I will post both previous posts from 37 spins thread next . Then over the next day or so add more information. Cheers.
     
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    It’s a basic simple method for brick and mortar casinoverse as all screens ( rng and live dealers) have the last 20 or so results already posted for you as you approach the screen. It’s the same thing for live actual tables with live dealer and other players. As for live online casinoverse I have no input on this subject as we are unable to access them from here in skipptophia. Cheers
     
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    I will
    post rules/ suggestions
    suggested durations
    and comments of play.
    Cheers
     
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    Ok some rules, guidelines, and suggestions.

    Rule number ONE

    Have the RIGHT bankroll first and foremost. As you may know I operate a 5 day bank , each day bank is 1/5 th of my total bankroll for the table game I will play.
    I only flat bet as per previous posts, you may also know that I look to gradually increase my total bankroll after a period of time, this allows me to increase my initial bet eventually. I have posted my personal theories of m m ,discipline, etc on another thread, the stadium thread


    The table minimum (for this roulette method ) must be tripled per number selected to be played.
    Example table
    $1 minimum then each number initial bet will be $3
    $5 min then initial bet is $15
    $10 min blar blar $30
    You get the picture. you can nominate any amount you want as long as you can divide it by 3, and have the correct bankroll to back it up.


    For this method example I will use $3 as the table minimum, $10 as the initial bet on each number selected.

    My day bank will be $1500 , my bankroll total is $7500. ( $1500 x 5 =$7500)

    We are going to bet on 15 numbers maximum. Each number will cost $10.
    15 number x $10 = $150
    The day bank is $1500 , this gives us a MAX 10 spins of 15 number at $10 per number

    ( 15 number x $10 x 10 spins =$1500)

    This $ amount is for the example, you use $1 as the min x $3 x 15 number x 10 spins =$45 x 10 spins = $450 x 5 day banks = $2250 starting bankroll. Etc.

    The 10 spins is the maximum spins wagered
    Cheers
     
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    The coffee break method
    Part 1, spins 1 to spin 30.
    We will apply this assuming we are in real world casinoverse. I have NO recent experience with online casinoverse, so no input from me. I have played this on a live dealer table, live dealer stadium style, and RNG stadium also.
    We are also aware of other bets available but for now the focus is on this method.

    We will select 15 numbers that have already BEEN hit/ displayed on the roulette results screen . The average casinoverse has a display screen of 20 numbers. Most often than not from those 20 display numbers there are double, maybe a triple , we are assured there are single numbers posted.

    We are not betting on 10,11, 12,13,14 or 16,17 numbers, we are only betting on 15 numbers . If there are fewer than 15 number in the first 20 results we DONT bet , we wait a couple of spins until from the display board of 20 numbers you get 15. You will not have to wait long .
    If there are more than 15 different numbers in the 20 number display, DONT bet. Once again wait for a couple of extra spins until the 20 number on display gives you the 15 different numbers required.

    Once we have our 15 different numbers and as per the posted until size we are using this example of $10 bet , we will cover the 15 number for the 21st spin.

    The objective

    We are betting the SAME 15 numbers @$10 each for ten spins max. We don’t change any of the original 15 numbers selected during this 10 spin session.

    WE are NOT chasing all 15 numbers to win.

    We are aiming to win ( hopefully) within the first few spins. If you win the first spin at $10 per number you are in front by $200 immediately. You then can decide to re bet all 15 numbers again.

    Except this time, ( spin 22 ) the number that had just hit, let’s say it’s zero and you bet $10 and won $350-$150( 15x $10) =$200 profit.
    Your next bet amount on the JUST won number is now $3: this is just incase it goes to be a double hit number. Happens.

    I tend to continue betting after the first hit on spin 21 ( optional scenario) maintained the other in hit 14 number at $10 .

    If on spin 22 we have no numbers hitting we can decide to stop with a $57 profit for 5 minutes work.

    As we have allowed 10 spins and we have a bankroll to back us we can bet the same 15 numbers again on spin 23 for an outlay of $143 , if this wins we are back to profit, we now drop the bet amount for the new number hit to $3 . We can continue on as long as we keep winning the spin. For max of 10 spins. I have never had 10 straight wins EVER.
    5 straight yes often. Usually 1,2,3 is the average. If you win first 3 in a row lose the forth spin call it quits, you are in profit, that is the m m discipline part.

    Even though I allowed 10 spin bankroll of $1500 doesn’t mean I have to lose all 10 spins. I lose 5 straight I can stop there, go get that coffee and hit it again in half an hour’s time, different numbers etc.

    It can be and is a rather quick and simple earner with virtually no hard work involved. On the stadium screen you hit re bet. On live table get the dealer to place the bet , not hard .

    Yes you can lose. But easy to recoup.

    I will post a couple of games from the roulette simulator soon to show a working example.

    I will post part 2 of the coffee break method shortly, in a previous post this thread is a short description already. We will tie in the two parts and also show you can quickly turn multiple sessions in a short time frame. Cheers
     

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    Just little correction. Bet 15 numbers when get hit will get profit $ 210.

    350 - 140 = 210
     
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    Btw thanks for willingness to share @Punkcity

    Have a nice day
     
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    Yes correct my bad.
    I was going to tag you ( ordinary people) to look at this thread , I think it’s ok one for you to cut your teeth on. You ask any questions I will answer you. Cheers
     
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    Ok
    To demonstrate part 1
    I’ve used the roulette simulator, I have taken still shots of screen . Lol this first one is a good one as it immediately covered one of the first rules.
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    You will see at top left of screen is the spin / rounds number

    in this situation it’s round 20
    THe rule stated that we need exactly 15 different numbers at spin / round 20.
    Here you can see we only have 12 numbers because a couple of numbers went quad and trip, and double.
    Therefore No BET on spin /round 21.

    We will cycle through as many spins as it takes to get our exact 15 different numbers to bet on. Cheers
     
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    Part 1
    Demonstration continued.
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    Here we see that it took up to spin/round 26 before we got our 15 numbers.

    If this was a display screen on actual casinoverse it would still only show 20 number, we waited extra 6 spins to get our selection criteria filled, what’s that 4 minutes maximum on stadium roulette.

    If you wanted to really tighten the parameters you could actually wait until the ACTUAL display of 20 spins ONLY gave you the 15 different number required. This is a bit more time used but it’s still very good strike ratio. If I have time that is my preferred method (20 spins only 15 different numbers) usually as I walk past I scan the display boards and 9 times out of 10 I will get a selection criteria straight away. If not I can choose to stay or leave and look at the tables again on my way back ( to my baccarat stadium) . I play according to rules and I don’t need to push it to work for me.
    To continue in this demo we have carried the count to 26 spins , we have our 15 numbers.
    We can see a number hit 5 times, another by 4 times, I don’t care. The rules said 15 numbers, I’m game on.
    Cheers
     
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    Part 1
    Demonstration
    The 15 number selected and bet at $10 per number.
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    this is the screen shot showing the 15 number selected, ready to bet on spin 27.
     
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    Part 1
    Demo
    The first spin of our 10 maximum spins of 15 different numbers will be spin 27 here is screen shot and results
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    Here we can see top left round 27.
    We see bet 150
    Loss 140
    Win 350
    Sum( profit) 210.
    For the purpose of this demo I didn’t load $1500 as the bankroll partly because the simulation doesn’t allow for $1500 ( you can check that out on the site yourself) . The other reason is it’s a visual show of a profit ( in green or if it was a loss in red )
    So we won on the black number 2
    On our very first spin.
    Note this the first attempt on this simulation today and is not Cherry picked.

    If you don’t believe me I don’t care.

    Ok we hit the first spin into a profit , real time this situation of waiting an extra 6 spins plus this spin maximum 5 minutes.

    $210 in 5 minutes.
    What do we do now?
    We can do 1 of 2 things
    First we could now leave with $210 profit, good call. Remember this is on the way to grabbing a coffee break , or tea. $210 for walking through the casinoverse, the harvest is full and plenty here in roulette town.
    Secondly we could go for another spin , let’s do that as it’s my preferred method. If we lose on the next spin we still can walk with a profit of $67 for 6 minutes work at about $1:10 per minute. Nice.
     

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    Part 1
    Demo.
    The rules stat that after a number has won , we reduce the bet on only that number to 1/3 of the initial bet outplayed on that number. In this demo we bet $10 on all 15 numbers, the number 2 won for us here as per previous post screen shot.
    Now we reduce that bet on number 2 ONLY , in this situation the new unit is $3. We are aiming to get a reward if it doubles out, if it doesn’t then we only lose $3. The objective was to get a win , we have done that.
    We are not increasing our bet on the other numbers they remain at this demo at $10 for the remaining 14 unhit numbers.
    Here is the screen shot of bet lay out.
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    Now our total bet on the 15 numbers is $143.

    Let’s spin up for round 28.
    Sweet.
     
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    Part 1
    Demo
    Screen shot , oops .
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    Here we have round 29 and we lost.
    Number 26 was the winning number and unfortunately it’s not one of ours.
    You can see on the screen shot we are still at profit of $67 for 6 minutes work.
    Me
    I’m happy to walk with that profit 4 days out of 10.
    But ,
    I know this is unsupported by anything but my own skin in the game I generally push on to another spin or two. I have allowed a 10 spin cycle EACH time I approach the roulette table to play this method. If my day is going exceptionally well at baccarat I am and do continue with another bet after say this exact situation posted here.
    This is the part I’ve posted previously of knowing that I have something that will win. I’m not hoping, I know. I have 5 x 1 day banks from my bankroll allocated to this.
    Yes you can lose today. Come back tomorrow with a new day bank and start again. You will be surprised how often you win the first bet at $210 as per demo , lose the day bank rather easily recovered imho.
    Disclaimer user beware, you can’t afford to lose DONT PLAY.
    Mathtopians no need to comment, you said it all before, your opinion is noted , we are adults etc.

    So I’m reloading for the next spin.
    The rules stated 15 numbers x 10 spin between spin/ round 21 to 31. As we did not start betting until spin 27 which on a display board would be spin 21 we continue. We bet all 15 numbers again exactly as the last spin. Onward to profit.
    Yeh.
     
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    Part 1
    Demo.
    You guessed it .
    Lost.
    Here is the screen shot.
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    Lucky number 9 for some not for this puppy. Spin / round 29 we see the balance is now in the red for $70 odd dollars.
    We have now a W,L,L situation
    We can leave it at that , it’s a good call , you can come back later, you’re only down $70 for 7 minutes work. Nothing to get steamed up about.
    Me , I’m punching on , it’s only the third spin of the 10 spin cycle and I’m down $70 ish. I’ve still got $1420 day bank!!!
    Same numbers, same bet amount, same bat channel.
     
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    Part 1
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    Phew round 30 we win on number 13 for a $10 bet . We are back in profit of $141
    This is spin 4.
    Time duration 8 minutes
    Yes we can safely leave with this profit.
    Come back in 30 minutes start again or go to another different table. Etc.

    But let’s push on. As per rules the winning number bet is decreased to 1:3 Rd in this case it’s $3 . Our total outlay on the next bet will be $130.

    See where we are going?
    If the next spin loses we are still in profit of about $11. By the time we gather our chips, tickets we spent 10 minutes max at a $1;10 a minute.This to me is a no brainer, in this situation I’m betting again, I will be half way through my rules spin cycle and I’m still in profit if I lose the next spin number 5.
    Platton needs to get a idea of actually how valuable a $1 really is , if he understood the it he would not be so dismissive of a small profit. Because a profit is profit regardless of sizing. I digress.
    Onward.
     
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    Part 1
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    Spin/round 31.
    As you can see we have won with number 16. We are now in profit of $365 .
    We can leave now, but as I know I’m about to drop the $10 bet on number 16 to a $3 bet I will be outlay $129 on the same number we initially selected.
    This next bet will be spin number 6.
    If it’s a loss spin I will definitely end the session there. I will still have a sizeable profit for 11 minutes work.

    If the next spin wins I continue until the NEXT losing spin then I end the session completely.
    Let’s see.
     
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    Part 1
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    Screen shot.
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    As you can see spin/ round 32 was a loss. You will note that the bet on number 16 was a $3 bet as per rules.

    This was the 6 th spin of our 10 spin cycle. Why would I continue?
    There is absolutely no reason whatsoever. If I have lost money yesterday or this morning it is still NO reason to continue with this particular session in this format . The rules stat after a few wins leave on last loss. That is the money saver right there .
    Funnily enough number 6 was the loser spin for us at number 6. Lol.

    So here we are at $236 profit, not hard work, 12 minutes max. Usually I don’t comment on player rewards as I believe in making a profit is far superior to accumulating player rewards but even this method will rate you. I prefer the money to the rating any day of the week.

    That is a walk through of part 1 , can do another if requested.

    This part 1 Leeds us to part 2 quite nicely and is a continuation of part 1 BECAUSE we are in profit.
    Note part 1 is finished now due to the last loss. The 15 number selected are NO longer considered in part 2.
    I will post part 2 demo as a continuation from here shortly. Cheers
     

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