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Baccarat Cracked it! Baccarat can be beaten

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by cluedupcity, Jul 11, 2020.

  1. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity Active Member

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    I spend many hours, days, weeks, sometimes months working on patterns, stats, combinations, variations, changing, tweaking, testing, hire data scientist to test, retest, test again, further tweaks, what works best, and then further weeks writing about it all. Yes it is a nutjob of a task.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

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    Baccarat the easiest casino table game I adapted in 1996 as an alternate table game.

    Skimmed over the book and went to the casino .


    Accept winnings and losses with the same grace .
     
  3. cluedupcity

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    I changed a main rule selecting another option to find out if that would perform any better, while it had merits, it did not perform better, so I reverted back to the original main rule, since this confirmed its strengths. Then I concentrated on first attempt bets only in each double group, and flat betting performs well. In a random run over 224 outcomes, from 154,000 outcomes of my data bank of shoe outcomes, (I'm not betting for every outcome only following trigger) playing for the first hand only in each double group, 78 wins versus 26 losses, 52+ profit over 3.4 6deck shoes or 2.8 8deck shoes, by the end up, thus is climbing. I'm going to run the flat betting wagering rule only over all 154,000 outcomes to get a picture of the up/down waves. I also see great potential for 1/2/3/4 etc progression given there are not many losses before a win.
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The key is proper money management not chasing losses or the fancy word " recovery".
     
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  5. cluedupcity

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    I also got a x9 and x13 run of wins in a row over the same 224 outcomes.
     
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    Understood , its your job. I do give you credit for what you are doing and I would like to just add that at least your not an ahole like that guy thats attacking gizmotronic on that other thread this forum. That man I dont understand why he hasnt topped himself or at least go and get laid. Either or , and the wold is a better place. Cheers
     
  7. cluedupcity

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    I prefer first bet of the double group flat betting, still with an outcome of 27+ purely flat betting based on the same set of outcomes. But option to bet both first and second outcomes in each group remains. Just minimises the risk moreover if progression is used. But on the whole I don't see a need for bet size increases either following losses or following wins given that the strategy is super strong and the logic it's formed upon is pure genius. I hope it will be available on the 26th, subject to my data analyst providing me with detailed data connected to my 154,000 baccarat outcomes. Although this strategy is bind blowing, I'll be setting a realistic target goal of 5+ min which looks so easy, a walk in the park, when this beauty is put to work, but I'm mindful that those of us that bet big should not get carried away pushing it, but somehow I know that the greed will takeover and bettor will want more and more. I'm just thinking of long term play many sessions and the time spent at the table. 5+ to 10+ 1-3 shoes easy. I would not expect a baccarat pro to want to remain all day/night at a casino. Based on 261 days i.e. 5 days a week, with a 5+ unit win, that's 1,305+ units times whatever bet size. Though some players may start more than one session in a day.
     
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  8. Nathan Detroit

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    For recreation one could go to the beach and view the Crack of Dawn .
     
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  9. gizmotron

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    I agree with this to a point. I use this word, "recovery" all the time. But what I do is to stop the descent. Another way to say it is to recover as I go. I limit the amount down and fight right there until I get back to where I had progressed before that 4 net loss in the case of the 1, 2, 1, step progression. I flat bet at 2 if the first 1, 2, 1 has failed. It takes two net wins at 2, to get back to where the fail occurred. It takes real skill to fight your way back at a flat bet. this is possible because you can target win streaks.

    The lazy 1, 2, 1, progression works so well that it's easy to grind out wins. If you have problems with it just look at the number of wins to losses that occur as published in the above examples. That progression should actually read as (1, 2,) ( 1, ) where the 1, 2, start over. It's just a 1, 2, progression that eventually goes to flat betting at 2. ND has been a fan of the 2, 1, progression for years. It's very good. Although he includes several steps more I use it to get the three net win sessions a lot. You start out at 2, and after a net win at 2 you flat bet at 1 until you get your net three. So in effect you flat bet each step until you get it. All that is sort of a fight in place ( or step) until you get it. All this is actually MM. It all comes down to effectiveness streaks. I only apply the gas when I can see clear road ahead. This technique is a form of grinding out a win. You just chisel away at the session until you win it.
     
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  10. cluedupcity

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    lol
     
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    The problem with increasing stakes negative or positive progression is that you're playing two systems at the same time or within the same game. 1. the bet selection that is flat betting at its core, i.e. you win or lose, you lose a unit or gain a unit same bet size and 2. the progression. You might lose a few in a row or at the points you really needed to win when increasing wagers -- still comes down to micro chasing -- and end up losing using progression whereas looking back the few wins over losses if just flat betting might have paid off with an x/xx amount of unit wins. So progression only really works if the connection for wins is made overwise it just adds to the flat betting risk. If the flat betting structure is sound i.e. it eliminate most or just enough of the would be losses in order to generate profits then that's all you need. Because looking for constant flow of wins and turning losses into wins becomes overly complex and the risks increase. If you're going to win your're going to win flat betting because progression will merely mirror your flat betting decisions unless you're lucky enough to make those winning connections which seldom occurs consistently. With a decent flat betting system, there is no need for any progression when winning or losing, thus to win more it's just a matter of setting a higher bet size. At the end of the day it all comes down to how good one's flat betting system is. In theory if you had super powers you could get every single outcome correct, but since we don't have superhuman powers we have to identify the best times to bet and when not to based on the knowledge we have about the game and the patterns and combinations that form and then look at the big data to reach a point of forming bet selection rules to win more and lose less.
     
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  12. gizmotron

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    Really, that's good advice. Where did you come up with that? I've spent the last 15 years suggesting optimal sequences of effectiveness. I have fully explained this and have shown examples of it. Most of these examples are illustrated in discovering patterns that parallel effectiveness. I have considered it a skill and gone forward with it to the point of sharing it and teaching it. At first I kept it more or less a secret. I got a few people to really focus on it in depth. That proved to be highly rewarding. I then waited about a year and decided to share the basic concept using a few specific characteristics of patterns that are fairly common.

    So I wish you excellent luck in sharing your concepts and discoveries. It will be real good once you discover concepts like Elegant Patterns and the Global Effect as I have labeled them. I'm sure you will discover them and give them your own names. Seeing that your game is Baccarat you may never discover your own version of these capacities though. Both are moments that occur that are the equivalence of finding a bag of gold coins and picking them up without restrictions. The global effect would only occur if you have multiple & simultaneous streams of EC type data to search characteristics of patterns from.
     
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  13. cluedupcity

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    I have discovered the bag of gold that when I pick it up the coins do not drop out, there are no holes, only a few worn out scuffs here and there. The dream becomes reality, when you wake up the system is a goldmine. ;):greedy:
     
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    It's not enough to claim it. You must share it openly so that others might validate it for you. The other option is to not share it, drop hints for years, tease people, be a bastard juice, and get mean and resentful. People don't want to learn how to target trends and patterns. It's way too much work. They would rather believe in a magical system that allows them to treat a casino as their own personal ATM machine.
     

  15. cluedupcity

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    Keeping it to myself is an option and using it. Proof of winnings increases its value since it becomes more desirable. Though not so easy to prove winnings unlike poker tournaments who publish results.

    Releasing it to my publisher who will offer to the public is the next option. The best I can do in this case is obtain discounts for those on my email list.

    I've already proven it works to myself ofcourse... I know. Have hired two data analysts to check various aspects. That's pretty strong evidence. But when it comes down to it the proof is in the pudding.

    If anyone has roughly two shoe results outcomes they would like me to test my strategy on please let me know. Especially if you played on the outcomes using your own method and know wins v losses. Best and worst shoes too.
     
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  16. gizmotron

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    So you and your two data analysts are playing an ego trip on all of us. Thanks for that. We have never seen that before on a gambling forum. People with the HG always share what they are doing. I was the greatest skier in the entire world there for a while. But those that were known to have proved that never knew I existed. So I just ego trip on it. I was so good at that I went rogue and got into other extreme sports just to max out the ego effect. It's great. I once thought to teach Tiger Woods how to strike the ball with real authority. Anything I touch, it's golden. So good luck with your gambling. We can't wait to hear from you some more.
     
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    People with what they believe to be the HG generally don't share. The ones that do share know there is a fault with it which is why they share and they are looking for improvements. Whereas I know mine works and have employed others to confirm that. Though I'm not stating it's the HG because I strive to achieve better. But this is the cream of baccarat.

    It's like virtual goldmine, or to take your analogy an ATM that pays out time after time if the correct code is used. We know there is gold there, we know there is cash there. Use the correct tools, the correct code and you make your gains. But it's the tools/code is what the player needs. We play on the same table, the same game, some always lose, some win sometimes, others nearly always win. What would you give to know the code? It's no ego trip, it's reality. In any case I only want to deal with people serious about winning.

    I'm not selling Vegas workshop places, scammy online tutorials, doddy online software, people who show pre-recorded outcomes to fit in with their fake useless systems etc etc, if you want those types go on YouTube, you'll find lots. I'm the real deal. 27+ flat betting, over 224 outcomes (not all outcomes bet on, only following triggers) when a good target is 5+ units per shoe. Not many losses in a row. streaks of x9 and x13 wins in a row. This is groundbreaking and I expect genuine baccarat players to be excited. Maybe too much c19 in the air. Over and out.
     
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  18. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmotron,



    Always be on guard against system vultures .
     
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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    Blah blah blah...you're full of trash. If you're shit worked you wouldn't even be here. You'd be raping casinos left and right. Get lost.
     
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    lol, some people are just bad losers, tut tut tut, now now jbs jibby jibby rules are rules, corner for you. :eek: you've been watching too much Tony Montana.:mad::wtf::wtf:
     

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