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Baccarat Cracked it! Baccarat can be beaten

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by cluedupcity, Jul 11, 2020.

  1. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know if you noticed you cannot alter a post here after a certain time . The posts here ARE time stamped so please post here as the request was here. The rest of your post is good to go and thanks for your effort. Look forward to seeing this month of posts. Cheers
     
  2. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Your previous post to this quoted post states to me something that is acceptable, in it you state that MY strategy prediction etc etc, that I can and will accept a “strategy “ . It maybe semantics to some but I believe a “strategy “ is not a “system “ as no “system “ can win is what I believe. If you read any of my thread and no I’m not selling a book ( private joke little bit of light humour, just saying) I have mentioned numerous times I don’t believe in system nor do I promote websites, etc , BUT you will see from my posts that I advocate a strategy as such that allows me to make a profit in what I do. This method, strategy is not a system. I do welcome the fact you are applying it the STRATEGY, to the Dow and ftse it is something that my method/strategy is unable to do at this point in time , but I like you are trying to make a strategy work.
    As for proving your “ Strategy “ works —— no you have not , you have given numbers that state x unit win yes that’s true, BUT you have not showed how it works ( proof) . Yes I understand why you cannot show how the machinations of your “Strategy “ l mean duh ...but please don’t say you have showed PROOF because it’s precisely those sorts of statements that caused your post to go sideways. Surely a man of your intelligence would be able to see that unless you have other reasons not to see that . Innocent mistake perhaps?
    Now you can spit the dummy and leave the forum in a screaming hissy fit , kick the toys out of the cot or you can stay and show how your “STRATEGY “ does in fact stand up to the stock market dow , ftse etc because it’s not a simulation, because it’s not a unquantifiable RNG it’s stacked against public knowledge that everyone has the same access to . It is able to be measured publicly, to me that is ample proof that you have a strategy that does stand up to a random outcome + or - unit profit or loss.
    Put it to bed . Stay and play or give a flippant reason and leave.
    I enjoy the banter by the way and as you haven’t YET descended into bitch calling I look forward to your posts. Cheers
     
  3. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity Active Member

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    If I do this, it might give away too much information. Give away secrets before publication. Because a clever person could work out how the strategy works based on the selections. I see what you were up to all along, trying to fool me into doing Punkycityboy, clever you, clever! :happy:
     
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  4. Jimske

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    True dat.
     
  5. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I just started skimming this thread. LMAO. Another book. But he implies it doesn't necessarily work. Heehawhee. Always the disclaimer at the end of the "strategy." Look, a HG is any rule based system that can be followed explicitly and overcome the house edge. The % profit is nearly irrelevant. I say "nearly" because there is the problem of being worthwhile. Though even playing for comps without losing $ has its merits.
     
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  6. cluedupcity

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    You've taken my post out of context to fit your agenda. My strategy does work and can attain profits in most sessions played therefore in the long term profits can be made, this is the point I made if all of my post is read within context (below) which you tried to distort, which did not work because people can read all. Too smart for you.

    "I'm about halfway through my book. Of course I was thinking of publishing, but then I'm having second thoughts. I'm not saying I have the HG, but it's pretty well up there close to it. It's a universal strategy that can be applied to a number of casino games and to stock markets and forex etc. No matter what the random combinations are my strategy overcomes to attain profits. 5+ to 10+ units in a session is well within reach. There are way more wins than losses. Flat betting is key to proving the viability of any strategy. With stock market, forex and the like, many more units/pips/points can be gained thus lots of money can be made."
     
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  7. cluedupcity

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    I'll be carefully checking through another 300x RNG outcomes today to ascertain W/L ratio, profit/loss flat betting adhering to the rules of my strategy. Will publish my findings. If anyone has a set of 100-300 ish outcomes R/B H/L O/E, P/B maybe that had defeated your strategy applied to those outcomes I'd be happy to apply my strategy to in order to test it out on. If you could also state how many flat betting units you were able to attain if any and at what stages during the run. Might be one 6 or 8 deck Shoe or more than one shoe.
     

  8. cluedupcity

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    Ended the session 9+ over 300x outcomes, would have been out with a 5+ anyway on the 40th outcome well within one shoe, and not betting every outcome! Bingo!

    Results from start of flat betting: -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -5, -4, -3, -4, -3, -2, -3, -2, -3, -2, -1, *BE, +1, BE, +1, +2, +1, +2, +3, +2, +3, +2, +3, +4, +3, +4, +5 (conservative target reached, was on 40th outcome) +4, +5, +4, +5, +4, +3, +4, +5, +6, +5, +4, +5, +6, +5, +6, +5, +6, +5, +6, +5, +6, +7, +8, +9, +8, +9, +8, +9, +10, +11, +10, +11, +10, +11, +10, +9, +10, +11, +12, +11, +10, +9, +10, +9, +10, +9, +8, +7, +6, +7, +8, +7, +8, +7, +6, +5, +6, +5, +4, +5, +6, +7, +8, +9, +8, +9.

    * Breakeven (BE)

    Recovered from -6
    Held ranges of +5 and then stepped up a gear to +10 range. Safety target range of +5 looked easy.
     
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  9. cluedupcity

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    If I factor in approx x16 wins on Banker by the 40th outcome reaching a +5 target then commision paid would be kept to a minimum, bearing in mind too that there is no commission on some tables or half of win is taken if Banker wins on whatever the casino rules are... approx, 16 x 0.05 = 0.8 thus just under 1 unit. A target of +6 would thus net a clear +5 flat betting units of profit.

    With roulette would need to factor in zero outcomes if any, though with European half back rules, this would help minimise disruption of reaching target.

    Looking forward to comments/posts from the doubters, naysayers.
     
  10. Punkcity

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    No not my intention at all. All I suggest was you post ,example - Monday Dow down = yes it was , no it wasn’t
    Tuesday Dow up =yes / no x20 business days =1 month
    End result you are all correct,
    You are 75% correct
    You are 50% correct ETC
    How you arrived at your selection is still a private machination known only unto yourself. All we see is a quantifiable end result. Bit like a sports bet Liverpool win today, why no answer, how no answer etc.
    Your future book is safe
    This was just a simple request with no other motive. And people can be that simply motivated not everyone is out to steal from you or others .
    Cheers
     
  11. cluedupcity

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    Okay you're on, stop loss not included, only if right or wrong on ups/downs and thus % of either, I'll cover Dow and FTSE100. (any forex pair of your choice) 30 trading days, where no calls are made does not have to be declared, just means no wagers would have been made on whatever days. From close to close of each market or certain time if forex to be established.
     
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  12. Punkcity

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    Cheers just the Dow and ftse will be fine, no trailing stop loss etc next day = up or down , no trade days no problem understandable, too easy thanks.
     
  13. HunterBBQ

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    After all read of this post i felt wasted of time.
    1. If you want to share just share and dont give any reason whatsoever.
    2. If you already mentioned that you wont sell or disclose any of your so call system then no need for any prove or have to prove anyone, even you have proved mean nothing to anyone that dont know the method you used.
    3. All your test results test within your own system have set your own rule even the test results may not have the true random from the real game itself, fyi results in hand or history is the past, it only record in the history and it may not repeat itself, even you have all the proof it will repeat itself, but what is the point to show that without a true advantage percentage that you have when the same history repeating and you have 51% advantage that will have the same opening banker results instead of player.
    4. If your test results is so great and non have think about it before and even any prof or pros null have discovered , then i will put a "think" that you are super busy to HG now better than busy with all the reason to have a proof or prove to someone that will never benefit to you or your system to make them believe you have a great system. Because if i have that opportunity and i will either busy with my HG or busy to enjoy my rich life show off instead of doing sometime that waste more time.
    5. I had won 100k in a day and 300k a day and that mean nothing when next day is a new day to start, all start all over again and mean i may not win again that kind of amount if i never know the true math of my method = if the true percentage is against me at some point i will lose back to the casino in no time, that is why testing in simulation have to be true and trusted results instead of cheating ourselves that we have advantage to win.
    6. 1 or more have point that, a good system or method dont need to win 99.99% but if you have 1 unit profit per shoe = HG and that all you need is 51% to 60% win rate to make that happen, if flat bet, but if marty then 51% to 60% is not working.

    Thank for your time.
    P.s
     
  14. cluedupcity

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    HunterBBQ, I'm testing my strategy against real shoe outcomes and RNG outcomes as well as against other games or events, the patterns and combination of outcomes that these produce. Doing this shows me how my strategy can cope and perform when faced with different variations. I don't know what the definition of a true HG is, I think it might be showing profits by the end of so many sessions and those profits increasing based on either solely flat betting or some form of limited progression.
     

  15. gizmotron

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    You can prove your method or system right now, without giving anything away. Just log into this simulator and play 50 winning sessions in a row.

    https://roulette-simulator.info/en

    Just pick one of the EC outside bet selections to mimic Baccarat.
     
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    Here are the rules. You must play "Rated" games only. In fact I dare you to a challenge CP. I will play my way too, flat betting combined with virtual spins, that's no bet spins, and three net wins at $90 per bet, $270 to win each session. I will always bet $5 flat on 18 numbers, an Even Chance bet when I place a bet. I will bet $0 on virtual spins. This will show everyone how good you think you are.

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  17. cluedupcity

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    In my system I don't play for every outcome thus you write "in a row"
     
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    as I wrote, I don't bet on every outcome using my system, therefore the software will not work. Also since the software know the bets it's machine learning...i.e. will not produce true outcomes.
     
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    Ah yes, the ubiquitous excuse. That's always the best way to cover yourself. This software allows you to sit out bets. You can do spins without placing bets. It also records every bet you place and allows everyone to look at each bet that you placed. It keeps a perfect record of your skills. It shows your bets and each number that hit for those bets. I can see why you would be afraid of it. Of course I would be willing to change the rules to accommodate your needs. This would go to proving everything way beyond your stock market prowess. What do you say?
     
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    Oh, so your method is to beat Baccarat is in the aggregate? OK, so you get to fail and still be a genius. That's sort of a global quality. Got any other excuses?
     

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