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Misc Creating a Site to View an Individual's Betting Strategy

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by David Gregory, May 17, 2022.

  1. Garfield

    Garfield Active Member

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    Twitch, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok have their own streaming service you could use...
     
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    And there are programs that you can record the computer screen and record you playing and explaining the method.
    Then you can put it on youtube as private, share the link with whoever you want only.
    @David Gregory
     
  3. David Gregory

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    I appreciate the suggestion. However, you are still missing the point. I am aware of those avenues. If a person is claiming to have a winning strategy, he is capable of presenting only those games he wins. Why would he post games he loses? I want it so once he plays a game it is recorded and cannot be deleted. That way the truth of the matter is presented. Did you ever view a strategy on YouTube that claims to be a winner, did you ever see one that loses? Of course not, they only post the ones they managed to win.
     
  4. Median Joe

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    David, I guess this isn't quite what you had in mind but you can create an account here: https://roulette-simulator.info/en/rated-game
    And make your account public so that others can see how your balances grows (or otherwise). Turbo has used this site before to show that his systems are winners, although it's not entirely foolproof if that's your purpose.
     
  5. David Gregory

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    Believe it or not, I use that Roulette simulator exclusively to test my strategies. However, it does not include the games Craps, Baccarat or Blackjack. I wish for an all-in-one type site that includes all casino games. Keep thinking, you may come up with something yet. Thanks
     
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    Let me repeat my goal again. I am trying to accomplish a website that you select a particular RNG casino game and play your strategy stating your win goal and maximum loss allowable. Once played it is recorded and cannot be deleted. It is filed under your user name and given a code number. If you wish anyone to view the game/s you played, you give them your user name and code number. The purpose of this website is so others can actually see your strategy played out and hopefully if it has some potential, they may be able to offer some advice that may improve it. There may be something like this somewhere out there but I am not aware of it.
     
  7. Chip Magnet

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    Why bother with that when you already have YouTube?



     
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  8. David Gregory

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    Because with YouTube, everybody would have to have a video camera of some sort to video the individual playing his strategy. Then post it on YouTube. What is to stop an individual who claims to have a winning strategy from only posting the games he wins? I want to see the games played on a computer generated game that the final results cannot be changed. For instance: It is like going online and calling up a practice, computer- generated game such as, roulette-simulator.info. You play the game and it is put in a file for anyone to view and cannot be deleted. Now, if that same website offered all the other casino games, Baccarat, Craps, Blackjack, Poker etc., that would be more like what I have in mind.
     
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    Being a live broadcast it would work....Then the error would be recorded too.
    Do several live sessions on youtube.
     
  10. David Gregory

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    I really do appreciate your suggestions. Thanks. I am not familiar with how you do a live broadcast on YouTube. How involved is that? Is it simple enough anybody can do it. If it is, send me an example of you doing a live broadcast playing the game of your choice.
     
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    @David Gregory I think your website is hard to be done, because you want the website to automatically record every session. It means you need to connect the website into the casino's website, so every game a player play in that casino will be recorded.

    I don't think any online casino will allow that.

    The most relevant option is to schedule a live streaming session, whether it's in YouTube or Twitch or Instagram like I mentioned above....

    There the player need to schedule beforehand so viewers could see if he deleted some of it.

    The player also need to show his/her statement to show the balance of his account.

    Just my 2 cent
     
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    Actually, your 2 cents is worth more like 4 cents. I appreciate it. What I want can be done. This roulette site (roulette-simulator.info) does exactly what I want. But they only offer Roulette and none of the other games. I tried contacting them to see if they would be interested in adding other games to their site, but I never heard back from them. I am not talking about an online casino. Check out the website I Listed above and you will see what I mean. Go to Rated Games. That is more in line with what I am trying to accomplish. You may have to sing-up to view all they offer, but it is well worth it.
     
  13. Median Joe

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    I can't see the incentive for anyone to create such a site. It would involve a lot of work, require Mbytes of bandwidth and a large database which would be expensive, and how many people would actually be motivated to use it? Scammers who want to deceive others into believing they have a winner couldn't do it, and those who do have winning systems wouldn't want to either for fear of their systems being reverse engineered. What would be in it for them?
     
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    I tend to agree that proving something to others is going to be a rare use case. The argument will always be with any results "not statistically significant".

    So now you are left with simulation.

    Anyone capable of coding or math can prove it to themselves based on a concise description of the method. Everyone else has to believe those whose opinions they trust and/or that the implementation of the simulation accurately reflects the method described.

    So to drive this to ground you would need people willing to describe their method.

    You would need to provide a framework for assisting the accurate eludication of methods and a claimant who is willing to eliminate the vagaries and stop waving their hands about. Those telling pork pies won't.

    Then you have test data. The claimant would need to provide the sample data and the results of their method.

    Any edge cases will need to be ironed out.

    At some point you have a solid definition and the test data and then it's for the claimant to sign off and commit to the accuracy of the facts.

    Then you have implementation of the simulation.

    The framework must make this straightforward as you want all details teased out up front with the commitment to the facts and the data, because we know what happens next... People will say the method isn't accurate, that's not how I bet, your data is not my data, it's RNG etc.

    So let's say you have a community of participants who love to write simulations and some of those simulations get the same results as the claimant, then those simulations become candidates for voting by the community.

    Anyone can implement the simulation of the method and there can be many competing implementations that get the same results.

    It's up to the community to vote on the simulations they assess as accurately representing the method as described.

    Then the real simulations begin with historical and random.org data with the results available for all to see.

    And a leaderboard ranks the methods.

    Now I can't imagine a thriving community of people actually capable of doing this or claimants who peddle imprecise handwaving nonsense and fraudsters willingly electing to be put under such scrutiny.

    It will always come down to someone makes a bold claim and those who have the deeper understanding to see through it, and those who don't will make up their mind based on what they know or "believe" and who they choose to listen to.
     

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    Big AZ Live Stream. Takes a few minutes before the live comments roll in.



    Slotlady Live Stream

     
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    David that wheel he plays red/black goes 75 % not even with extreme streaks, where else anyone have seen wheel stats go dominating 90 %. Your strategy may work there or atleast more then 125 wins before loss. Winning strategies you look for dont exist, even these 2 strategies you shared with me i was not able to win. But on that manipulated controlled wheel it may work. The person has posted proof where he withdraws 8000 every month. Its worth of a shot, you have nothing to loose. You dont have to place even a bet but virtually see how you feel on there and would your betting win if you had placed a that kind of bet. If roulette can be won then only on that wheel, if any
     
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    Yeah, maybe not such a good idea after all. I just get tired of hearing people say on this forum they have a winning strategy that is fool proof and cannot lose. Yet, they share no information about it. So what do they have to offer? Others mostly offer why strategies will not work in the long run. Okay, big deal, who doesn't know that. Well, actually quite a few I imagine. Most all agree a lot of well thought out strategies will work short term. However, no one in the 3 years I have been here has defined what short term means exactly, because if short term was defined, we could all learn to play our strategies for that period of time and never play it again walking away a winner. People like yourself, understand the math and that it all comes down to a long term winning strategy must have an edge. We all know that too. The question that no body can answer however, how do I get an edge for long term winning. The reason this can't be answered is because there is no such thing. It all comes down to short term winning and nothing more. Let me define short term: The odds happen to be in your favor in the beginning. Now I will define long term: The odds turn against you at some point.
     
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    I could give all the answers to those of your questions . They are there but I am not a teacher but more

    so the copy rights of my mentor .
     
  20. David Gregory

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    I thought people on this forum were here to teach. If you are not a teacher, what exactly are you here for. For your cute little one-liners?
     
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