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Craps Crooked Crap Dealers

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Tinhorn Gambler, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. Tinhorn Gambler

    Tinhorn Gambler Member Lineage to Founders

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    The 2015 World Game Protection Conference in Las Vegas had a presentation called "How Could a Craps Dealer Steal" by Ron Buono.

    The video is on YOUTUBE, Learning Labs with Willy Allison.

    Click here: Crooked Craps Dealers - YouTube

     
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  2. Mark V

    Mark V Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Minimum wage paid dealers will encourage this sort of activities.
     
  3. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    I dont get the part where boxmen are involved where the chip is passed with the players card.....its not shown how the ship ends up in the boxmans pocket
    even if the boxman walks away..isnt there cameras that show him pocketing the chip.....if not viewed in real time...but pulled up and viewed later?
     
  4. Mark V

    Mark V Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Employees will take advantage of blind spots or where security cameras just don't have a good view. Might also happen be when casino security is lax, or in with the heist. Casinos will eventually implement a chipless table games system and that will end this sort of theft that has plagued casinos since forever.
     
  5. Kevin Greenstreet

    Kevin Greenstreet New Member Founding Member

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    The premise of the video is good. The types of moves are pretty "hinky" and unless the whole crew, the box and half the players are really the outside agents the heat will come down. I've never known of a chip stealing dealer being around for the long haul. One thing I would caution players about is that you should know the EXACT amount of chips handed in to color up...for some reason that seems to be a trouble spot...you should know the amount, don't let the boxman decide what you should get, double check his count.
     
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  6. Anna Loudon

    Anna Loudon Member

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    I don't know much about the payouts or play costs rules are complicated anyone care to explain just how you play the game? And what all the different bets are?
     

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