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Roulette Double dozen bet. A bad bet it is

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    who plays double dozens

    How do you do it?

    Hit and run it may be good

    Using law of the third it may be good

    But this “being good” is only short term as when the house edge bites in 2 dozens it bites hard

    Ideas?

    Hit and run was never a problem for me. It’s greed that’s the problem.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So you want to be dazzled?

    This is my AI software on $5 chips where the software decides when to virtual bet on it's own and raise the bets too.

    Code:
    | 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P | 
    |       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 33
    |    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
    |    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
    |    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P |  # 0 -- (No Bet) -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 0 -- Sleepers
    |       X | X       |       X | P |  # 34 -- Won -- 0 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 0 -- Sleepers
    | X       |       X |       X | P |  # 9 -- Won -- 60 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    | X       | X       |    X    | P |  # 1 -- Won -- 120 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P |  # 11 -- Won -- 180 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    | X       |    X    | X       | P |  # 5 -- Won -- 240 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X | X       |    X    | P |  # 28 -- Won -- 300 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X |    X    | X       | P |  # 32 -- Won -- 360 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X | X       |       X | P |  # 34 -- Won -- 420 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    | X       |       X |       X | P |  # 6 -- Won -- 480 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Singles
    |       X | X       |    X    | P |  # 28 -- Won -- 540 -- ( B & C to win next) @ 5 -- Singles
    | X       |       X |       X | P |  # 6 -- Won -- 600 -- ( A & C to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |    X    |       X |       X |   |  # 18 -- Won -- 660 -- ( A & C to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    | X       |       X |       X | P |  # 9 -- Won -- 720 -- ( A & C to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |    X    |       X | X       |   |  # 24 -- Won -- 780 -- ( A & C to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |    X    |    X    |       X |   |  # 14 -- Lost  -- 660 -- ( B & C to win next) @ 0 -- Sleepers
    |    X    |    X    |       X |   |  # 14 -- Won -- 660 -- ( B & C to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X | X       |       X | P |  # 34 -- Lost  -- 540 -- (2 & 3 to win next) @ 0 -- Sleepers
    |       X |    X    | X       | P |  # 32 -- Won -- 540 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X |    X    |       X |   |  # 29 -- Won -- 600 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |    X    | X       |       X |   |  # 13 -- Won -- 660 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X |       X |    X    |   |  # 33 -- Lost  -- 540 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 0 -- Singles
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P |  # 11 -- Won -- 540 -- ( A & C to win next) @ 5 -- Singles
    | X       | X       |    X    |   |  # 4 -- Won -- 600 -- ( B & C to win next) @ 5 -- Singles
    |       X |    X    | X       | P |  # 32 -- Won -- 660 -- ( 1 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |       X |    X    | X       | P |  # 32 -- Won -- 720 -- ( A & B to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    |    X    |       X |       X |   |  # 18 -- Lost  -- 600 -- ( A & C to win next) @ 0 -- Singles
    |    X    | X       |       X |   |  # 13 -- Won -- 600 -- (2 & 3 to win next) @ 5 -- Sleepers
    
    This stuff speaks for itself. Still, I'm telling you that EC's are less volatile.

    It must have sensed a global effect in sleeping dozens.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This actually deserves a picture. It caught the global effect.

    AI chart.png

    Just look at that win loss log at the top:

    wwwwwwwwwwwwwwLwLwwwLwwwwLw
     
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  4. RouletteGhost

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    I have no idea what the bet selection is

    But if you can do this daily then I’m sure your pockets are happy.
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm trying to get across that nobody can get what they want all the time.

    I can do this daily if I don't go for the monster win streak.

    BTW, at the top of the chart that is presented as code you will see the column meanings.

    When you look at the chart you can see what was bet on to win on the next spin. Only this time the computer picked all the bets. This charting program was also designed to practice.
     
  6. RouletteGhost

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    When I explored double dozens I had a lot of success with the law of the third

    Bet the last two dozens to show. Sometimes when the last 2 dozens were unique. So in essence I was betting that the next spin wouldn’t be another unique dozen. Betting against 3 unique in a row, like 123 or 321 or 231- betting that 3 unique in a row wouldn’t occur. It worked.....when it worked
     
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  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Exactly, it works when it works. You can't know when a law of third will be a unique number. It just can't be known. Law of third is randomness. Randomness will excite you and it will massively disappoint you. My greatest bit of advice is in coming up with strategies that allow you to lose. You need room to lose in order to win.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is actually amazing. I didn't teach the software to see a streak of the same dozen. It caught the three sleeping dozens across the chart but it totally missed the single dozen "P" that hits for 13 spins in a row.

    Anyone seeing a single dozen hitting 13 times in a row should be making at least a $100,000 deposit in the bank with that extraordinary streak.

    If you don't know how to pile on a miracle streak then I totally feel sorry for you. It's like going to Yosemite just to ride the sight seeing bus. When you climb within an inch of your life you actually gain a perspective of what life can really be. Anyone that misses a monster streak is just completely unaware of how awesome gambling can really be.

    I think that this is my greatest regret about gambling. I don't have a compatriot to share the amazing capacities of being a player.

    gloom, ... embrace the horror.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, sport fans. Here is the the artificial intelligence software that only goes after a few characteristics and adjusts bet amounts based on my laziness of mine for double or single number bet idiots. I built this software in order to not answer a million question on the forum that was built to teach it. Lazy me!

    This sucks! The software is rejected as .zip file and the actual executable too, both under the new limit by a mile. Are you sure you have accepted the mime type for .zip and .exe as the guru? (owner?)

    My browser type is Google Chrome.
     
  10. albalaha

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    Every bet is proportionally good and bad. I like double dozens and often play it too.
    Remember, there are only two ways to win:
    1. Either you can increase your accuracy of predictions and win more than average thereby bypassing house edge and variance both;
    2. You have an MM suitable for the worst to the best times and wins in below average wins.

    I haven't witnessed anybody doing the first. Haven't witnessed anybody doing second too, except myself.
    Not just double dozens but any bet has difficulty in winning consistently.
     
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  11. Proofreaders2000

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    RG, LOTT sounds good. I think it is
    more of a money management issue.

    Avoid negative progression. Stop when in
    profit or when eight total units lose, flat-bet.
     
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  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, here is the link for downloading the zipped version of the Double Dozen Artificial Intelligence software.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7axapxofgx2uggh/two dozens Ai.zip?dl=0

    When you are on 24 numbers to be selected then the selection buttons on the left are for the dozen that is supposed to lose.

    When you are on 12 numbers to be selected then the selection buttons on the left are for that dozen to win.

    P is 16 numbers to win. Not P is the rest of the numbers to win. So it works differently. (P stands for Prime)

    This software is based on the American double zero wheel. It works for the single zero wheel too.
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Back when I was into double dozens I was always searching for the big winning streak. I needed it to pay back the big holes that this method digs. But I think I will practice getting just three net wins. That requires a much bigger bankroll. 24 numbers bet pays 12 on a win. But you do win more bets.

    So $10 chips (two $5 chips) for each number would be $240 just to win $120. You would need at least five times that for a lost session, considering that you have far more wins. So it needs from $1.200 to $1,500 for each session that loses. Stop win should be $360. 4 times $360 is $1,440. So it looks like you need 4 won sessions for each lost session. I'll try this for a while to see if it works better or worse than EC's. Just looking for my win / loss ratio for three net wins to 5 net losses as stop points.
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

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    I am playing Follow the dozens , stationary dozens , WASHOO 2 two dozens based upon the wheel selection. Nobody will listen any way .


    What ever the bet selection of any of the 3 I have no complains .





    ND
     

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    Does that mean that a stretch of singles will be a losing streak?
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    My best choice remains the WASHOO2, based upon the 0 /00 wheel lay out of sequential numbers .
     
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  17. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmo ,


    A bet on a single dozen is a death sentence for your bankroll. Look at the "scatter " of the numbers on the wheel .You could drive a truck thru the clicks in between .



    With a number and its neighbors on the wheel lay out you will find yourself with a choice of 2 powerful dozens .



    ND
     
  18. RouletteGhost

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    How was the decision made to bet a certain 2 dozens after a certain number has been hit? In regards to Washoo 2
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

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    For complete details Google in


    "WASHOO2 two dozen Roulette system "


    ND
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    Reference is made to contiguous numbers on the lay out of the wheel .


    ND
     

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