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Roulette DOZEN , always nearly equilibrium in series bet?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by beat-the-wheel, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    BET DOZEN WILL REPEAT

    [bet a new dozen will SERIES],
    Wait for new dozen to appear, to bet it will repeat, or series.

    If lose, bet the new dozen will repeat.
    If win, wait for new Dozen, to bet again
    ======================
    for easy eyes visualization,
    Dozen, 1,2,3=

    1-12=A,
    13-24=B,
    25-36=C.
    NB=NO BET.
    ======================
    I choose a sample , randomly
    it happen that the three dozens have unequal hit.
    =====================
    Spielbank Hamburg
    Tisch 0001
    02.04.2001
    Gewinnzahlen:

    FLATBET ONLY

    34C NB...bet next=C
    35C HIT1
    8A NB
    5A HIT2
    34C NB
    13B lose1
    34C lose2
    18B lose3
    18B HIT3
    35C NB
    2A lose4
    10A HIT4
    7A NB
    10A NB
    27C NB
    32C HIT5
    19B NB
    29 C lose5
    13B lose6
    5A lose7
    2A HIT6
    6A NB
    ----
    10A NB
    6A NB
    24B NB
    33C lose8
    00 X lose9
    33C NB
    35C HIT7
    4A NB
    16B lose10
    32C lose11
    27C HIT8
    36C NB
    25C NB
    16B NB
    1A lose12
    ----
    7A HIT9
    36C NB
    20 B lose13
    24 B HIT10
    5A NB
    4A HIT11
    ----
    7A NB
    16B NB
    27C lose14
    35C HIT12
    25C NB
    30C NB
    24 B NB
    29 C lose15
    35C HIT13
    5A NB
    16B lose16
    00 XX lose17
    34C NB
    14B lose18
    11A lose19
    ----
    7A HIT14
    28C NB
    8A lose20
    15 B lose21
    20B HIT15
    9A NB
    5A HIT16
    12A NB
    ----
    31C NB
    33C HIT17
    25C NB
    22 B NB
    16B HIT18
    22B NB
    13B NB
    31C NB
    24 B lose22
    21B HIT19
    ----
    26C NB
    10A lose23
    14B lose24
    17 B HIT20
    22B NB
    30C NB
    19B lose25
    4A lose26
    26C lose27
    1A lose28
    35C lose29
    28C HIT21
    34C NB
    31C NB
    17B NB
    1A lose30
    25C lose31
    16B lose32
    20B HIT22
    24B NB
    26C NB
    30C HIT23
    ----
    11A NB
    6A HIT24
    6A NB
    23B NB
    18B HIT25
    22B NB
    30C NB
    36C HIT26
    20B NB
    33C lose33
    29C HIT27
    18B NB
    20B HIT28
    12A NB
    ----
    22B lose34
    14B HIT29
    18B NB
    13B NB
    19B NB
    26C NB
    24B lose35
    32C lose36
    25C HIT30
    28C NB
    9A NB
    22B lose37
    13B HIT31
    29C NB
    ----
    22B lose38
    10A lose39
    20B lose40
    00 LOSE41
    6A nb
    2A HIT32
    16B nb
    25C lose42
    23B lose43
    33C lose44
    28C HIT33
    29C NB
    20B nb
    13B HIT34
    18B NB
    36C NB
    30C HIT35
    30C NB
    ----
    18B NB
    18B HIT36
    5A NB
    35C lose45
    26 C HIT37
    26C NB
    3A NB
    12A HIT38
    ----
    1A NB
    28C NB
    24B lose46
    5A lose47
    25C lose48
    13 B lose49
    5A lose50
    23B lose51
    36C lose52
    15B lose53
    4A lose54
    11B lose55
    28 C lose56
    29C HIT39
    ----
    30C NB
    19B NB
    9A lose57
    19B lose58
    4A lose59
    3A HIT40
    28C NB
    6A lose60
    26C lose61
    2A lose62
    13B lose63
    27C lose64
    34C HIT41
    8A NB
    ----
    13B lose65
    5A lose66
    8A lose67
    8A HIT42
    11A NB
    6A NB
    21B NB
    29C lose68
    28C HIT 43
    35C NB
    18B NB
    16B HIT44
    33C NB
    ----
    21B lose69
    26C lose70
    16B lose71
    00 X lose72
    31C NB
    33C HIT 45
    24B NB
    6A lose73
    27C lose74
    27C HIT46
    25C NB
    9A NB
    26C lose75
    35C HIT 47
    16B NB
    ----
    36C NB
    23B lose76
    4A lose77
    29C lose78
    33C HIT 48
    26C NB
    3A NB
    25C lose79
    14B lose80
    ----
    30C lose81
    00 X lose82
    19B NB
    00 X LOSE83
    23B NB
    12A lose84
    35C lose85
    00 X lose86
    5A NB
    31C lose87
    6A lose88
    27C lose89
    1A lose90
    27C lose91
    33C HIT49
    7A NB
    11A HIT50
    23B NB
    16B HIT51
    8 A NB
    33C lose92
    ----
    20B lose93
    4A lose94
    18B lose95
    10A lose96
    14B lose97
    7A lose98
    ====

    HIT=51
    LOSE=98

    Anzahl Spiele: 244
    H剈figkeiten:
    0 7
    1 5
    2 4
    3 3
    4 7
    5 10
    6 9
    7 6
    8 6
    9 4
    10 6
    11 5
    12 4
    13 9
    14 5
    15 2
    16 11
    17 2
    18 10
    19 6
    20 8
    21 3
    22 7
    23 6
    24 8
    25 9
    26 10
    27 8
    28 8
    29 8
    30 8
    31 5
    32 3
    33 10
    34 6
    35 10
    36 6
    Schwarz 124
    Rot 113
    Pair 126
    Impair 111
    Passe 129
    Manque 108
    1. Dutzend 69
    2. Dutzend 77
    3. Dutzend 91
    1. COL 85
    2. COL 77
    3. COL 75
    1- 3 12
    4- 6 26
    7- 9 16
    10-12 15
    13-15 16
    16-18 23
    19-21 17
    22-24 21
    25-27 27
    28-30 24
    31-33 18
    34-36 22
    1- 6 38
    4- 9 42
    7-12 31
    10-15 31
    13-18 39
    16-21 40
    19-24 38
    22-27 48
    25-30 51
    28-33 42
    31-36 40
    Uhrzeit Spielbeginn:
    14.58
    Uhrzeit letzte Zahl/Spielende:
    23.38


    Thus U can see that the win/loss= always near EQUILIBRIUM.

    This just mean , if u take every spins , then u will depend on LUCK to win.

    So, if it is TRUE that the series/single always nearly equilibrium,
    Then what u gonna do to ensure constant win???
     
  2. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Equilibrium is an assumption meant for very long run only. If you expect an equilibrium when you play for that, sadly, you may not get that often.
    Variance is the absolute reality of any way you can bet. No way of betting is superior to other, by itself. No way of betting will give you any edge. Every bet will face hard times and u can not guess when.
     
  3. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    [
    ... is the absolute reality of any way you can bet. No way of betting is superior to other, by itself. No way of betting will give you any edge. Every bet will face hard times and u can not guess when.[/QUOTE]

    Hi Albalaha,

    U try to,... after "hard time", as u advocate.
    If u scrutinize every spins session, u may see that the ,
    the 'hard time' may also present in any series/single strategy...

    Maybe I think that at least they may try to equilibrium,
    after a while that u may win even FLATBET,

    for example.

    If u could "SIEVE-SIEVE-SIEVE",
    the "hard time" away...
    then u just bet the un-sieved portion.
    Then u may win FLATBET...!

    Why not u try a few thousand spins, as I cant programming.
    and see how the effect?

    I think we have same IDEA, but different English ...hehehee
     
  4. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    No Wong,
    You have got a wrong assumption. If at present, a bet is too bad, it doesn't mean it will go very good or even at exact average later. A bet may continue to remain below expected average, so long you can play. Have you seen how #3 behaves in zumma throughout 15k spins? Only thing you may assume for long run is, it can not go too harsh, averagely, in long run.
    for example, you can see all 20 Blacks in the next 20 spins, it doesn't mean, u will see 20 Reds in next 20 spins or even 10 Reds with any kind of guarantee. Only and only we can expect that there would not be all 20 Blacks again in next 20 spins.
    Equilibrium is something you may not get for a bet even after playing 1 million spins or even more. House edge further makes it tougher for all bets. good times need not compensate for the earlier superbad time. A superbad time may be followed by bad times and later below average time. Keep this in mind.
     
  5. Alan Yasutovich

    Alan Yasutovich Member

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    I think and wonder. It seems (I could be wrong) that the suppositions about this
    divergence (or not) are usually based around picking one choice. I still maintain that
    a more sensible idea is not sticking to one choice. Like red or black, or #3. Because
    yes, I suppose that black could come in 65 times in 100 or something. But if you
    are playing something "relative", like "next to last". Or last two dozen (letting the
    sleeper go) I thing that that is a better tracking mechanism.
     
  6. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    No bet is absolutely better or worse. One may think that only due to lack of knowledge of probability, randomness or inability to simulate and test.
    When you simulate any betting style, all falls for same sort of troubles over long run. I can write this on a stone that no bet is better than other.
     
  7. Alan Yasutovich

    Alan Yasutovich Member

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    I think that, even though I was writing what I wrote, I agree with you. Even though I know what
    I said.

    I do day trading. One notion that is true is that you need to learn to make trades for real on what is
    called the "hard right edge". Which is what it says. You don't see what is coming. And it happens.
    The idea and notion as you look at charts is you think and you note all the places you could have
    placed a trade and won the trade. Sometimes I have wondered why this is so true that learning
    from seeing those moves isn't "educational".

    Well what I learned is that, in effect, we see and take note of those winning moves and ignore
    all the losing spots that we might have taken. And think we have it in a bag.

    So when you look at gambling results it is the same thing. We only focus on the things that work.

    If that is true. And what you said is true. Then there must be the same amount of positive stuff
    going on that we just don't take notice of.

    There is another trading rule. Let your profits run and cut your losses. Do you think gambling systems
    work that way?
     

  8. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    All sort of gambling are based upon uncertainty(randomness) and probability. We can't guess which one of the bet will be good or bad or average. We can't forsee future. If it gets even slightly possible, all casinos will shut their shops. The extent or stretch of the variance can also not be predicted or beaten by any mean. It makes a casino unbeatable. You may feel like referring to this topic of mine: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/18734189/makes-casino-absolutely-unbeatable-long-run-observations
     

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