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Roulette Einstein and roulette - quotation marks don't make it true.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. Turner

    Turner Active Member

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    A perfect example, Caleb, of you not reading anything properly before you comment.

    One person (Falkor) on RF posted his views on Flat Earth being a reality. (you've already stopped reading havnt you?)

    The "Flat Earthers" as you call everyone in RF all posted how ridiculous a flat earth concept was.

    Everyone, apart from the 1 poster. But you didnt read that far.

    Also, my post started "Turbo". so that means it was directed at Turbo, which means I wasnt asking you to answer. I already knew your very predictable answer from memory.

    Caleb is on his vitriol cycle. It will pass.
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's probably frustrating to rely on defects when there are less and less (if any) defects
    available out there in the open for him to exploit.
    And not being able to use a system due to some mental block - that leaves nothing
    but hunting from casino to casino looking for the "only way to win".
    Who knows - by the end of the year I might make more playing a system that ""couldn't
    possibly work"" than a AP player looking for the needle-in-a-haystack defective wheel.
    I'm sure it's frustrating and a lot of work - he'll get over it. All I need is any casino, any
    wheel that produces random and a chair to sit in.

    I have a vacation to get to !! I heard it was 84 degrees yesterday - going to be a nice
    change from barely getting out of freezing. (and the spring breakers can always keep me
    warm lol).
    Cheers.
     
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  3. Jerome

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    But it's ok to use past spins, even those that occurred before your session. Sir A is attacking an argument you're not actually making; you're NOT saying that past spins INFLUENCE future spins (which is what dependence is about, and what he is accusing you of saying). Gambler's fallacy is about "triggers" and virtual bets, all of that nonsense. But previous spins can certainly help to PREDICT future outcomes by identifying the probability distribution. If the distribution is skewed (biased) then doesn't that help to predict what will happen in the future? And even if the outcomes aren't biased, there is no fallacy in using stats to structure your bet selection.

    Sir A even acknowledges that betting hot numbers is better than betting cold numbers. True, that's only because IF the wheel happens to be biased then you'll be betting on the "correct" numbers, and he says that for entirely random outcomes it makes no difference. But that's a different argument, and it's not as though you're following individual numbers in the belief that because they've showed up once they are "due" to show up again soon. Analysis of the behaviour of repeats (all numbers taken together as a group) is not the same as that of particular numbers hitting more frequently because their single appearance somehow triggers it. That would be GF again (and analysis would show that it doesn't happen, as you'd expect if outcomes are independent).
     
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  4. mr j

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    I agree.

    Ken
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    TurboGenius is going to love this. I did it. I built this real world testing app to check on something and in using it I discovered something else I was not looking for anymore. I, just by a wild guess of throwing rules around, came across a set of rules that fits all the stuff that TG had discussed about his method. It does have math on its side. It appears to win every time. I will test it more. I don't want to build an app to power test it. I have run it 30 times and it wins every time. But you can say the same thing for the Martingale, that it wins every time. So perhaps I will have to power test it soon anyway. I've got a hunch that it will work though.
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I don't care if he's using past spins or not. I don't care if he's practicing the gambler's fallacy.

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    What Turbo's doing isn't rocket science. He's just playing on hot numbers. It's not new. It's not original. It's very straight forward, and it's results when used on random numbers is very predictable (negative expectation). The method relies on hot numbers having hit X number of times above expectation within a horizon Y, as well as an up as you lose progression to cover the losses. I don't understand the reason for the charade. His evasive descriptions about the system are hypnotically stupid but funnier than hell to read. All the while there's a cult of stupid that's testing it 38 to 100 spins at a time...adding to the entertainment as they reverse engineer and curve fit and graph their limited testing results.
     

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  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    And then one day - Sir Anyone, The General, Snowman and Houston along with all their other friends - found the famed bias wheel and played it. They all lived happily ever after.
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  8. gizmotron

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    And now a tribute to Snowman:
     
  9. Turner

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    Make sure you watch turbos animated gif as you listen to the song. They are made for each other.
    It's as crazy as a biased wheel in 2018
     
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  10. TurboGenius

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    HA they are great together
     
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  11. RouletteGhost

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    Caleb (if that is even who he really is) obviously gets the jollies off trolling

    can't have an adult conversation without the same recycled GIF or condescending photo over and over again

    I do not understand the point of it...so much time on his hands

    put it this way: on a forum I would rather talk to guys like Turbo whose strategy may or may not work long term over some imbecile who is condescending 24/7 and has no interest in anything except cheating at the game of roulette (flawed wheels), which i find to be BS actually.....



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  12. mr j

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    Kiss ass.
     
  13. RouletteGhost

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    i have no reason to be a kiss ass. its called being real. i dont ask turbo for anything. no reason to be a kiss ass.
     
  14. RouletteGhost

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    it comes to a point where noone wants to read the same recycled garbage all the time

    we know how caleb plays. we know how he feels. system forums arent the place for him

    surely there is visual ballistics and flawed wheel forums

    he needs a target. since no forum will have him he has now chosen trubo.
     
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  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I just point out the BS and flat earth ideas as I see them.

    Now let's talk about those absurd unique patterns that they're posting about in the Land of StuPid... ;)
     
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  16. RouletteGhost

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    One insane, crack pot, weirdo called the earth flat now its EVERYONE in his eyes, LOL




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    I believe TG is doing what he says he is......

    He also was the only rational poster here....

    I am kind of glad this forum exists, it created a little jail for the bitters
     
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    and me, right?
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    This is rational huh? "Math beats a math game."

    "I can win because I'm guaranteed to lose."

    "I can increase accuracy of prediction when spins are completely unpredictable."


    "Random has limits."

    "All anyone needs to think on is how to be one of those 13 people."

    Hmmm...Ok. If you say so. LOL!

    To intelligent people that actually grasp a little basic probability most of the systems there are really no better than the flat earth ideas. For example, the KTF, KFC, Unique patterns... ;)
     
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  20. TurboGenius

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    Nah, they are top secret forums and talk about top secret stuff like reflections in the wheel from lights
    and looking for a hairline mark on the wheel somewhere - all the things no one other than their own
    group of "special people" could possibly understand.
    In their spare time they troll system players and people who aren't in their secret club because
    we aren't worthy. Meanwhile I don't need to travel the globe, track a billion spins and pay expenses -
    all I have to do is walk up to any wheel, in any casino or even rng.
    So that's got to be frustrating to the AP fellas.
     
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