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Roulette Einstein and roulette - quotation marks don't make it true.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    That guy spinning the wheel is going to loose his leg or at least break it if he's not careful! LOL!!!
     
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  2. TurboGenius

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    To "ACTUAL" intelligent people - the earth is whatever shape it appears to the person observing it.
    To a person on the earth, saying it's flat - clearly they aren't intelligent.
    To a person that knows that traveling towards earth at almost the speed of light - the earth is
    only a few meters thick (basically flat, yes) - they are also correct.
    Imagine that - two correct answers yet you only think about one answer because you're actually
    on the earth moving with it.
    Sort of like roulette - systems can't work because bias wheels it the extent of your research and
    it's clearly impossible for there to be any other way (people told you it wasn't possible - even with bad
    quotes from people who never said it).
     
  3. mr j

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    That looks like some ghetto thing in Mississippi(?)

    Ken
     
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    that is what I do not understand

    If I was well enough off to not have a 9 to 5, and traveled the country playing flawed wheels (which i call BS ON) then the last thing I would want to do is bother with forum system players
     
  5. mr j

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    Hey RG, are things kinda slow today at RF? Its been two days since a new holy grail was last discovered. Maybe today?

    Ken
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Sorry Turbo,

    But I wasn't sleeping during math class. Playing hot numbers/cold numbers isn't going to help you if the game is completely random. Neither will your list of oxymorons.
     
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    let me play devils advocate

    in 37 spins we never have 37 different numbers

    so how could playing "hot" numbers NOT make sense...
     

  8. TurboGenius

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    It makes complete sense and is supported with math - but to the people who can't see
    past 1 spin, it's useless.
    1 spin......1 spin.....1 spin...... why am I not winning ? it's "Gambler's Fallacy !!!!!!!" lol.
    Which to be honest isn't a "fallacy" at all, but there's another thread for that.
     
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    i havent followed what you do....but I suppose betting all numbers that have hit twice would win more 37 spin cycles then not
     
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    if I had to make an attempt at playing like you my game would start the second I sit down, I would not look at the history board

    then I would wait until a number hits twice. bet all numbers that hit twice. after 37/38 spins take them down and restart
     
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    Because you want your hand held. Fuckin lazy ass.
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    lol - Imagine those people in the same room ! :)
    Have fun fellas, I have to get to sleep - plane in the morning.... vacation time !!!!!!
    (and I'll still be working on roulette... just like on Christmas Ken lol - you and me both)

    Here Sir Anyone, I'll beat you to it - lol
    [​IMG]
     
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    Nice jet !!
     
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    this one is for dr sir. the official "prove flat earth rocket"



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  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    In the random game, if you play long enough you could see 37 unique numbers in 37 spins. Because the same numbers remain on the wheel from one spin to the next, there are gazillion more ways for it not to be 37 unique numbers in 37 spins. Binomial distribution is pretty straight forward stuff. Unfortunately, knowledge of the probability doesn't enable you to exploit it. Knowledge of it actually tells you the opposite. It basically says that the house payoff is short of the probability of winning in the random game.

    In the random game, a number that has just hit... has the exact same probability of winning OR losing... as any other number has... over the next series of spins. To claim that you can some how exploit the binomial distribution is ludicrous.
     
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    we know it is a random negative expectation game

    however in MOST 37 spin cycles there are numbers that hit 3 or 4 times

    so why is it that this knowledge cannot be used...we expect losses, so what

    there is a starting point. one repeating number
     
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    Ghost,

    It's probability. The probability says the house payoff is short. There aren't just 36 pockets, there's 37 and 38 of them. Sometimes you'll see a 37 spin sample where you have lots of repeats, and you'll win. Unfortunately if you play long enough, you'll find that the repeats/hot numbers are just not enough to remain a winner. If you test the random game, you'll find that the cold numbers perform just as well as the hot ones.
     
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    Turbo,

    I hope you have a fun vacation in Florida.

    Best of luck.
     
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    I would. Any information that you can get about the future may better than none.
     
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    Funny isnt it?
    My brain knows its an animated gif that repeats but I still expect that guy to get mangled any second.
    You are not sure if the loud crack was a wooden spoke or his leg LOL
     

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