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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Daehun Jung

    Daehun Jung New Member

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    Jae, I would like to recieve your Guidance.

    PLZ contact me. [Admin Edit: E-mail removed] or [Admin Edit: E-mail removed]
     
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  2. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    Ive been waiting in this thread since August first

    Not nice.
     
  3. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    NASA rocket scientists in competition with the intelligence community? Or possibly a takeover or something vital to World security?
     
  4. Robert Ryu

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    Nonsense.
    Random is random.
    Anyone can not beat the law.

    The most important problem is that the house has an edge.
    If you play a long term, eventually go ruined, Jae.
    When luck comes in, make a short burst.

    There is many journal about prediction of binary sequence for gambling written by Ph.D.
    I recommend you guys read them.
    The rest are all BS.
     
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  5. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    And you are right to a certain point that is why we have secret clubs and handshakes and we only divulge it to those that join around the same time as we do. only a select few can really know how to beat the game I'm sorry I cannot give you membership.
     
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  6. RouletteGhost

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    They (the followers) pop up around the same time to. Coincidence?

    It’s almost as if they bait people to private message them so the price can be given

    Weird

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Robert Ryu

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    Actually, I have not seen a better system than mine.
    Simulated, and almost perfect.
    It's super easy, mathematically proved by Ph.D
    But I'm not going to reveal my system. :p
     

  8. Nathan Detroit

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    Awaiting the secret hand shake from the MIB .
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    From those cats I learned HOW to win . Enjoy your systems suckers .
     
  10. fathead

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    I have been testing Jae's method on simulated EZ Bac shoes for a couple of days now. I have to say, it is a simple and unique bet selection. I am not sure it is the holy grail but with the right money management it does do well. I was able to survive 25,000 EZ Bac shoes which I have never done before. A modified version made one unit on every shoe, the sequence never carrying over into the next shoe. I am going to try to upload the profit curve image for the 25,000 shoe test.
     

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  11. fathead

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    I made some recommendations to Jae. He has a good idea that I will probably try in a week or so when I have more time. I see above that my image uploaded okay.
     
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  12. Dae

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    I also be one of your team. But nothing is allowed...

    How can contacted you...
     
  13. Dae

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    Jae, KaKaotalk and Line and telegra messenger is [Admin Edit: Contact Details Removed]...
     
  14. Robert Ryu

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    Interesting.
    I simulated again to see the other view and what I am wrong.
    Now, I can see the some weird dominant.

    O is as same as last shoe.
    X is opposite.
    OXXOOOXOOXOOXXOXXXXXXXOOOOOXOOXXXXXOOXXOOXXOXXXOOOOOXOOXXOOOXXOOOOXOXOOO
    OOOOOOOOOXXOOXXOOOOXOOXOOXOOXXOXXOXXXOXXXOOOOOOOOXXOOXOXOXOOXXOOOOOXXOX
    OXXXOXXOXOXOXOOXOXXXXXXXOXOXXOOOXOXXXXOOXXXOXXOXXXOXXOXOOXOXOXXOXXOXOOXOX
    ....


    Perhaps, He is right.
    It can take the viable edge.
    And now I can understand why he insist Oscar's grind any other than.
    I have always tried to avoid the killing pattern as PPBB.
    But now, I do not think I need to worry about that too much.

    I don't know what exact trigger because I have not been choosen.
    But It could be holy grail. Good luck.
     

  15. Joey Torres

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    Hoping that Jae will reveal his method here as mentioned in his previous posts. It will be us against the casinos.

    Thanks
     
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  16. Jae

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    Thank you Robert. I was looking back at some of your previous comments on my post and would be interested in bringing you in on my method. I’m envious to those who are capable of testing and running simulations—it’s not that I’m not computer savvy; but I have no experience in doing it, nor do I know what programs you all use. Getting results back from fathead (to whom I’m grateful for) in a matter of days testing what would have probably taken me months or possibly years to do has been fascinating.

    As to anyone reading this...

    I have always been a big fan of open source type stuff, I’m also big into collaboration and spend most of my time on the internet on Reddit. Although Reddit doesn’t have a very good gambling sub, and their bacarrat sub is dead. I came here several months ago to find other like-minded individuals to share ideas with and to gloat a little if I’m being honest. I was full of excitement initially and it quickly dissipated when I saw so much negative and cynical reaction to my post. I honestly started thinking that maybe these forums were just filled with trolls. Hi John.

    Fortunately, I have been achieving my goal of finding like-minded people to share my ideas with, and people testing them both manually and with computers.

    While my title does state that I’ve found something that’s works, I didn’t necessarily mean to call my method the holy grail; but I guess my ego won’t really say that it isn’t... nothing else has worked better for me, I’m still doing great! With that said, I’ll reiterate that I have nothing for sale. Never did, never will.

    Also, I don’t have an original system. I’ve stated before that I use Oscar’s Grind. I’ve tested other systems using my method, and Oscar just ended up being the one that kept my risk low while still obtaining my goal profit.

    In fathead’s write up this morning, he mentioned that my trigger was simple (and it is), so simple that I had originally hoped someone would figure it out with the information I provided and the short backstory of how I ended up discovering it. I have two triggers in each shoe and two more that I’m currently still testing and working on, but I’m confident that others can find new things that also work based off using my ideals (using the previous shoe as sort of a bet selection technique when fighting randomness with random). When you find a trigger, see how it holds up with Oscar. If you find yourself testing it and surviving even 200 shoes (which I know is small scale for testing) you still might be onto something.

    The last part of my method:

    It’s simple, money management. I solely play ez bac because it’s all my local casino offers. One of the original benefits this offered me with money management was the ability to add $1.00 chips to my base unit as my bankroll increased. This hasn’t benefited me for awhile since my base unit is $500 and has been for awhile and now I feel like going over that might cause a problem with Oscar if I get a little deep in a series. The most important part about my money management aspect probably isn’t original by any means, but I also don’t recall seeing or hearing anyone else discussing it. So this probably has potential to help other people out using other systems and mechanical strategies—whether you’re being adventurous and using a martingale or even flat betting. (Quick story: I have played side by side with an older gentleman for several years who has been using his same method for a long time. He divulged his method to me before and it never appealed to me as I saw it as a long-term loser. Regardless of my thoughts, he swears by it and for the most part I actually see him hitting his goal quite regularly. He brings in a $500 bankroll for a daily goal of $200. He’s very strict with his bets and very patient as well. The point of the story is that it’s always baffles me why he hasn’t increased his wager and bankroll if it’s really been working this long for him...)

    I have gone weeks on several occasions without ever busting a 30 unit bankroll. I play on average 10 shoes and win 20 units a day. If I was a little more ambitious I could probably double that amount of play. What I’m trying to say is that I could easily more than quadruple my bankroll in less than a weeks time. If I did play that way and simply reset each week, a few complete daily losses wouldn’t even hurt me.

    Fathead said he was going to write something up today and while I did ask him not to divulge my method—I thought I would explain part of his message about an idea that he said he’ll be testing soon. The idea was basically to run simulations the way most testers do, but to try and incorporate that third money management part of my method. I’m definitely no statician, and I can see some responses being along the lines of the exact mathematical odds of the game... while this might be fallacy on my part, I don’t quite believe it until I end up seeing the testing results. But what we want to do is run the simulations based on increasing bankroll and unit size with reset points along the way to see if this does in fact show some sort of mathematical advantage play that could possibly be utilized by people using other systems. We’ve all seen the test results of several thousand shoes being tested by 1 unit and how they almost always fail or actually do fail at some point, but I’m really curious to find out if progressive bankroll additions with goal resets would change the risk of ruin.

    I’m also interested in serious replies.

    To those of you that might be addicted to negative replies... I’m also curious as to why you’re here. Didn’t we all end up on these forums for the purpose of winning? I had came here to offer quite possibly one of the best strategies at beating this game and still get a little aggravated at the majority of the reception from seasoned members on the board. Let’s reset my things my dudes!
     
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  17. Robert Ryu

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    I have been doing simulation of baccarat for several years.
    I have also tested all of the methods in the Internet and some paid methods or own ideas.
    I even have been made perfect baccarat edge calculators, and also predictor using machine learning AI method.
    But none of them have shown viable edge in long term.
    Perhaps that's why people become cynical.

    Honestly, I think the pattern based system is always causes ruin.
    Because there must be coming eventually anti patterns.
    If someone want to beat baccarat, there should be a new approach based on probabilities that no one would have thought of.
    At least, It needs a system that does not have an anti-pattern.
    Is it possible?

    My simulation is to select position and to bet as programmed by shuffled full cards as if playing real baccarat.
    If you are interested, please contact me.
    [Admin Edit: E-mail removed]
    I think i can tell you when or where to be avoid or something else.
     
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  18. John Blerg

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    Why do you sneak your email address spelled out in phonetic ways such as the last paragraph of the above post? Why do you want contact so bad with other people? What is it you're selling?
     
  19. RouletteGhost

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    I've been waiting since Aug 1st....12 days......geez
     
  20. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I am counting the days since your Mohegan sun trip was supposed to take place going on 3 tomorrow morning, i will save the geez for the 12th day.
     
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