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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. James Lee

    James Lee New Member

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  2. Punkcity

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    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    There you go , two straight posts and no golden talk. No I’m Matt Damon. See not so hard !!! now the next step is say /write something that’s not only understood by less than 1% of the worlds population. Yes I know it’s a big ask after all these years of self abuse, but you can wear the big boys socks now. You taken the first baby steps, keep going, you can do it. Yeah team , yeah team. Cheers
     
  3. cluedupcity

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    You’re relapsing back into your narcissistic traits again https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm

    tut tut tut
     
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    hi Jae, Im new here and Im really read your post with great interest and would like to learn more from you.
    But as Im new in the forum, I cannot PM you or write on your profile. How may I connect with you and learn more from you?
     
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  6. Rustyshackleford

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    that freakin jerk Jae, kudos to you roulette ghost from ac called it

    hes a jerk fraud scammer, promised he would say how he did it but then chickened out oh that burns my potatoes
     
  7. mansi19896

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    @fathead does it still win for you. already 25 000 shoes are really a lot. By now there should be full closure
     

  8. fathead

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    I have not really done anything with it since then.

    Since Jae bets only Banker, he was winning 50.7% of his bets. His goal in the early days was one unit per shoe. So in 50.7% of the shoes he was winning his one unit on the first bet.

    The other 49.3% of the shoes he had to work for his one unit. He was using Oscar's Grind, which did not really work that well in my testing. It kept busting. So I tried a Martingale 1 to 1000 units. If the bet hit the max 1000 units, I just kept betting 1000 units (or enough to win one unit) until it finally won. Jae was betting EZ Baccarat only at that time so no commission to eat into the Martingale profit at higher levels. This combination did win one unit in each of the 25,000 shoes.

    The system did win the way I tested it but one unit per shoe and massive bankroll required did not seem practical. At the time $10 to $10,000 tables were available with $10 per shoe being the goal. Now after covid you are lucky to find a $25 minimum table. And the casinos did not generally raise the maximum bet. Things are different now.
     
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    Edit: I forgot that since Jae was betting EZ Baccarat only, his win percentage was not 50.7% due to Banker pushes. Closer to 50% but still a bit better than the Player bet. The house edge is actually a little lower in EZ Baccarat. Jae had a lot going in his favor early on.
     
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  10. Sputnik

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    The problem is that the Banker bet does not offer any kind of advantage and is purely fantasy thinking to assume the Banker would give any better result than using the Player side.
    So this just shows what players to ignore when writing and talking about Baccarat.

    There is one simple principle to successful flat betting with simulations and in real life apply the Holloway progression.
    An old video about randomness experiments tells more about Baccarat than all the posts together in this section.
    That is my opinion.

    Who do you trust, persons with fantasy thinking or Wizard of Odds?
    And there is no +EV for baccarat if you don't apply AP.

    Is a delicate knowledge to know how and where to place bets that almost pass The Van Kelen Test.

    Cheers
     
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    do you still play can you dm me?
     
  13. Sputnik

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    Okay, point taken. I will search for the statement where he describes that you can not achieve any advantage plying Banker side.

    Cheers
     
  14. Jimske

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    Are we really back to Baccarat 101? Even soxfan understands that it's still a -EV game playing Banker only.

    Is it really easier to "tweak" a fixed bet selection on B (as soxfan says) to overcome the HA than on it is on P? Maybe. But it seems to me if you could do it on one side you would automatically have the key to do it on the other. An inverse correlation would necessarily exist.
     

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  15. porky

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    Sputnik don't waste your time. The wizard has been on the travel channel telling basically that all casino games can't be beaten.
    The wizard is not a winning gambler.
    And if you have ever played his bac game on his site it is balanced hugely in the favor of the Bank. Several system sellers use their success at his game to state they have a winner and any IDIOT can win just playing Bank with his game. Maybe it does do an occasional Player domination but I never had that happen when I played it. It wasn't even close to what I have gotten in B and M casinos.
    The fact that the game balances out has been proven so many times at the Glenn when it was still up. Alot of good information was lost with that site.
    Anytime a person is talking ridiculous drawdowns and still going forward shows they don't understand what it is their looking at and is a victim of gamblers fallacy.

    There is no magic system. It simply does not exist. B and P try as much as they can to come to even by the end of most shoes. A system years ago I think called the millonaire system if I remember right you counted P and B and when you got down the the last like ten hands or something you would bet the one thats behind.... I went through a lot of shoes to check it out and of course it came to and you guessed it. 50 percent of the time it won and 50 percent of the time it lost... WOW 50 50 who would have thought it......

    You got a guy on this site showing how much he won with his magic Banker system.... Yeah he won in units but if you look at it he lost more shoes than he won and not one person pointed that out.....

    Jae may not be a system seller but look at the similarities to the dirty goth boy...... I bet he would love to take other peoples money to invest....

    He come off as a complete set up and he got a little angry in this thread when pointed out didn't he....
     
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    Porky, you're a smart man.....always have been, even back to the "Glen" days. Take care and stay well, my friend.
     
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  17. mansi19896

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    evolution baccarat does the same thing. It has so many banker streaks always that do not match in real life shoes
     
  18. soxfan

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    I've played/tested close to 20, 000 shoe of Evolution gamings baccarat and they are not extraordinarily streaky. Baccarat is not the streaky game, hey hey!!!!
     
  19. Zhang Wei

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    Baccarat is not the choppy game either. What's your point?
     
  20. mansi19896

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    i meant evolution rng where it seems to do that where you can play 6 shoes at the same time. Evolution live are yes real and normal
     

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