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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Your point is?
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Simple - if you don't understand what "random" is and how it works, then you shouldn't be playing
    in a casino where games are based on random outcomes. You're better off donating your money to a charity.
    If you don't understand the basics of random, then you'll never beat the casino at any game they offer unless you believe that "luck" is a real thing and it's going to help you win....

    So my point is - more people need to understand what random is or else they are wasting their time and money even attempting to gamble to win.
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Turbo, you and I should really have a discussion of what random is. I'm sort of guessing here that you look at randomness from the point of view that certain things tend to happen a lot. That's if you know randomness the way that you do. From that you utilize the extra hot activity of approximately a third of the possible numbers as a type of consistency.

    I, looking at randomness a different way, see a consistency in sequences that tend to rise and fall along an expectation of an over all line that slowly declines along the large number expectation at around the house advantage.

    I think both ways see a truth about randomness. The more that you see it the more you get a baseline for what normal is. At least you can take the most common of data acquired and call the common average normal.
     
  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sounds like a good discussion for it's own thread! There's a lot of controversy as to whether the casino can deliver random numbers with their various mechanical methids.
     
  5. IDPA

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    I see a problem here. You've used the words "a good discussion" and assume that would work in this forum.

    From the previous postings over the years, a "good discussion" would quickly degenerate into the typical bashing and childish name calling from the same few posters and the thread would continue on, pointlessly, for years.

    But, here's hoping the next serious thread will work!

    I
     
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  6. Jae

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    Thank you for posting the video. That’s the one.
     
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  7. Jae

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    Quick update: I’ve gone back to the casino 3 more times with a starting bankroll of $3,000, using a 30 unit Oscar’s Grind with $100 chips and have added increments to my base unit as my winnings allow while maintaining a 30 unit bankroll.

    Saturday I played 10 shoes and got out before 9pm as the tables were getting a little busier and gameplay was becoming slower.

    Sunday I made it through 14 shoes, and today I have 13.

    I have more than doubled the $3,000 bankroll I started using on Saturday and am planning on taking it as far as it will go.

    My biggest drawdown was on my 5th shoe on Sunday, it required 21 units to complete my session.

    I want to take a quick moment to apologize to anyone that took my “loser” comment personally. I honestly thought most players visiting a baccarat forum hadn’t found something that helped them beat the game.

    If my current bankroll and strategy make it through the next 10 days, I’ll be looking for a new casino to visit. Currently my max bet is $5,000, but once my unit size goes over $1,000 I’ll need a better spread than 5x.

    I think my local casinos would accommodate me asking for higher limits, but I don’t want to draw too much attention to myself locally.

    With the amount of shoes I’ve tested, I think reaching the million dollar mark is feasible in 20 days. Even if it fails in the process, I’m confident I could reset and still do it with another attempt. It’s worked on every time on paper, but I’m fully aware of what kind of crap happens in real time. I’ll continue updating, I recommend watching the video Turbo shared. While it doesn’t tell you what to do in baccarat, it was enough inspiration for me to stop looking at things the way I was for over a decade.
     
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  8. TurboGenius

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    You're welcome. Maybe others will watch it and find the value in it as well.
     
  9. Jimske

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    Good going! By now you have hopefully discovered the potential future events which will bring your progression to ruin. And you've seen that it is a "likely" event BUT "infrequent."

    So a suggestion would be to lock-up some profit and restart at some lower level that when continued and hit the wall will still maintain an overall profit.
    ***************
    Perhaps some have heard the event of a young girl losing a helium balloon that was later found miles away by another young girl who had same birthday, color hair and clothing as the first girl? (I've forgotten the exact details.) But the point is that people say how unlikely that would happen. Nope. Just the opposite. Sure, the frequency of such an occurrence would be VERY low but it would be unusual if it NEVER happened.
     
  10. Jimske

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    I've played and documented thousands of Bac shoes which I've used to test various methods I dreamed up. I also plotted the results on graphs for comparison. Two interesting findings albeit admittedly not enough trials. Hand testing. The graphs all very similar to the graphs showing a near bell curve as depiccted in the video. Plus when measured by units placed could never result in a greater win that 3.86 average units per x decisions per shoe.
     
  11. Jimske

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    Just wanted to mention that I agree with a statement you made on the other site (I'm no longer welcome there). I have done live experiments betting Baccarat using random choices and have also found that placing random bets fared fr worse than using deliberate bet placements.

    Still, however, I call this "prediction" since a wager is placed for a reason of expectation.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    Jimske, that kind of tight control on a forum usually brings about its eventual ruin.

    "Still, however, I call this "prediction" since a wager is placed for a reason of expectation."

    For me it is to produce a deeper layer of what is happening. That layer is in fact real too. I know that expectation can relate to some kind of prediction or wishful thinking. But my deeper layer is an actual result. I make a guess, be it a hoped for continuation or a blind choice. In either case I get a result. The list of results look like this: "wLLwwwwLwLwLwwwL" etc... I use the capital "L" because it sticks up higher than the "w" on purpose. I want to see the changes thru visual dexterity mostly. That deeper layer does not depend on prediction. I know from experience that changes occur in that layer. They go from good to bad and back to good. It's just a matter of good timing and MM to take advantage. But that is what I do. Turbo depends on the characteristics of randomness as the only layer of data. So expectation is the plan.
     
  13. mron

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    There is no doubt that forum is doomed under Glen's leadership. Most forum members who value things like integrity, privacy and human decency have long left the forum due to Glen's constant posting and threatening approach towards anyone who has a thought different than his. In short, Glen's behaviour for the last 5+ years on numerous boards has been in direct conflict with the forum rules he has now posted as supreme being of the board. In short, no one, except Glen, is allowed to be a complete ass and bigot on the board. Will soon be a forum of only Glen and his multiple aliases all sucking up to each other. That will probably feel like heaven to him.
     
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  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So go there and like them all. I mean they are easy to like. It's all bullshit. So have a field day. Ask Glen to explain his methods. Drill down like a sycophant. Have yourself a ball. See who can give the best brownie. It's already game central.
     

  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Yes indeed. Glen and Esoito are a couple of weirdos.

    Glen's yarns (tall tales) are pretty over the top. I'm still snickering at his claim that he's spent $50k on the site.
    I suspect he doesn't realize that a site like his doesn't cost more than $300 a year and that's it's net value is probably only $25. LOL!!!

    He should sell manure because everything that comes out of his mouth is BS.
     
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  16. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Clarification please ; Glen is Alrelax ? the site or forum is Bet Selection .cc formerly owned by Victor of Venezuela .


    Purchase price $ 50 K . My ass,


    Thaks .


    ND
     
  17. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I never saw where he said what he paid for it. I think you Sir Anyone should quote him. Yeah. Glen is Alrelax
     
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  18. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Mr J and and Jimske .


    Thanks .
     
  19. Bombus

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    Victor is very shrewd so it wouldn't surprise me if he played on Glen's ego and convinced him to pay way overs.
     
  20. Bombus

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    Mr j hasn't even posted in this thread....yet.

    Still typing like a retard I see, ND.
     

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