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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    I mean. It must be nice to have that free time.
     
  2. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Oh okay I don't have to report the post. I thought you were talking about masturbation of my male genitalia you know getting my jollies off??? I took it the wrong way sorry
     
  3. mr j

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    That should do it......
     
  4. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    As well absolutely beautiful you have the time to answer!! I completely admire your allocation of your schedule time

    My sister just looked at this after I woke her up to borrow the money a little bit ago and she says, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't know what she's talking about??
     
  5. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    So I shouldn't get my jollies off??
     
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  6. Jae

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    JacobBlaze and fathead. Feel free to send me a message. You guys have been cool and I am ready to share my fully detailed method with you. No charge, some folks seem to believe I’m trying to sell something.

    I’m impressed with Jacob’s reportings in the comments; unfortunately, I think without my trigger you’re probably running into the regular pitfalls that an Oscar player will run into, just at a slower rate. With my method and how I define my random trigger selection and recommended bankroll requirements I think you’ll be off to a great start and I’ll be looking forward to seeing your updates from here on out.
     
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  7. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I won tonight using your info!! Great!!

    Also any good bulgogi or kalbi or bokumbap recipes???
     

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    Jae l have(silently) been interested in reading your comments. Fighting random with random is an interesting concept. l have tried using a set pattern of 8(mixture of P/B) continuously. This is on the assumption set patterns cannot repeat continuously. Using Oscars Grind when l have a unit win l increase by 1 unit, if lose l stay at that level until l have a win again and increase 1 unit again etc. In most cases l have been successful however in some cases the drawdown can be quite large but ultimately l have recovered with some profit or with a minor loss. l would be grateful if l could be included in the knowledge of your strategy.
     
  9. Jae

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    Dude.
     
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  10. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Figure that one out!! Extra son bol for that??
     
  11. Daehun Jung

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    It does not matter nationality in gambling.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Some nationalities strongly believe in luck . Their nemesis at the gaming tables .
     
  13. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Hard to believe. And all along here I thought it was all scientific and engineering in the classical examples apply to gaming. May be biased Wheels but do you really believe they're basing your wagering on luck??
     
  14. JacobBlaze

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    thanks if i can figure out how to message you i will, i think you have to have a high post count to message?? if you would contact me at my address i created to post youtube videos.. randobak2018 at gmail ..it looks like youtube decided to let my videos stay when i appealed yay.....

    you are right i have lost one time at the 888 live online casino, lost during $8 dollar unit bet and had a $320 bankroll, $240 to cover the $8 30 unit grind and the rest as restarting capital, as i started with $60 and $2 bets initially

    i also lost at my local bricks and mortar casino that was a $20 bet so dropped $600 roll, only difference is i had to move tables as tables died as they dont offer free hands, and also they only hhave super6 at low limit so got stuck there on my big bets/// no option where im at now (manila) unless i want to play $500 hands,,, and i am but using another method (same random bet selection) but have a $20K BANK

    so my trigger random doesnt hold up with the oscar grind//

    im rebuilding at 888 using my same bettin method that i posted earlier at $115 up about $40... but its hard to get motivated at $2 bets// lol
     

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  15. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    So how much are you selling this system for and how do we contact you?
     
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    No way?!
     
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    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I was just looking for a while at my screen in the right hand corner on my smartphone watching it as I was texting to my sister about the supplies I need for the rest of the afternoon in the left-hand side. I see j a e signed in then I see a message pop up then I see Jacob Blaze signed in then I seen another message pop up but I never see those two signed in at the same time? Maybe I blinked at the wrong time?
     
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    I also forgot to mention at another local casino i lost the oscargrind 30 units with my trigger, there are approx 50 tables at this casino so i went for one bet with my trigger win or lose and move to next table win or lose, i did this to possibly add more random to random lol// and also those tables are no free hands super 6 or super 7 tables// i had almost doubled my initial bankroll before i took the loss

    again just to point out that while my random trigger method works most of the time it has lost on 3 separate occasions already/// im up money wise because i won at high limit using JAEs (Original poster) ideas mixed with my personal trigger
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

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    John Blerg ,



    Fot Baccarat you only need to methods to lay. Nothing scientific .



    ND
     
  20. JacobBlaze

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    yeah just confirmed I need 300 posts to unlock private messaging so contact me or provide another way i can contact you,

    ive been interested in random since i read an old post on another fprum somewhere, and would like to know and study your methods

    heres the old post i saved on text file interesting bacarat stuff/// long read

    it was posted by letswon ::lo



    October 26th, 2014 at 2:28:56 PMpermalink
    Like I did in my previous thread, I am here just to share an experience. I have been playing baccarat for a few years. And have been trying to find a way to beat the game for a long time. I've made over $500k and have lost over $500k (not including recent success). So I have been through the worst with this game. From using progressions, to waiting for triggers, card counting. Nothing has ever worked. Why? Why has always been my question......because when you bet player you have less than a total expectancy of 45% win rate and when betting banker, you have less than a total expectancy of 46% win rate. I know my math explanation is lame, but, basically, what I'm trying to say, is that it is a negative expectancy game. Which is not like I'm saying anything new....but I'm just saying.....you are betting into something that has odds against you every single hand. Doesn't matter what count you use, what trigger you use. If you are using any kind of betting pattern? You will lose. Ten players does not mean a banker will come. Ten bankers does not mean a player will come. The win expectancy is totally individual each and every single hand. And it is not effected enough based on what cards came out, or what cards are left, to get any higher percentage than the two I said above. Over infinity? However, banker wins 50% of the time. No one will live that long to see that. And, even if you did, you would STILL be behind, because of the banker commission.

    If you want to beat baccarat? You HAVE to use flat betting. I have created something that is quite remarkable. It's hard to explain, but, the only way I can explain it, is that I am basically, fighting fire with fire. Baccarat is totally random. And, in that randomness, you have less than a 50% chance of hitting banker or player, over the long run. You have a better chance of hitting head or tails 50% of the time over the long run when you flip a coin. This is true because of the way baccarat is designed. Even 50/50, can't be beaten by progressions. HOWEVER.......baccarat uses cards. Cards, since they have a declining element, cannot be 100% random. Being that there are certain rules that create certain outcomes (stands, naturals, and then 6 card draws), a truly random element CAN BEAT a pseudo random element. This may not make sense to most, but, this is what I have created with my partner (my wife) to beat baccarat. We have, over the past 8 months, tested and tried a very effective flat betting method that has been generating us 30-80 units a day with a max draw down of 4-5 units at any given time. We've gone through many periods of winning over 20 hands in a row. I have never seen anything like that. And these win streaks are not on streaks of banker of player or chops, or twos, or threes....no, these are just streaks of winning hands period.

    What is the secret to our success without giving away the system? Our bet selection is random. Our trigger is random. And our wagers are random. And all three of those change randomly. For random reasons. Nothing we do, has anything to do with banker, player, or the game itself. Yes. 100%, true randomness. And we bet every single hand. On paper? We're up over 1000s of units. In real live play? We're up a fortune. I'm not here to give away my system, sell my system,...I'm only here to share an experience to encourage certain things and share advice.

    First, STAY RANDOM. Don't fall prey to patterns, simple triggers, banker/player tracking.

    Second, don't ever use progressions. If you have to use a progression? Your system is a losing system.

    Third, if you have to use "triggers" that make you wait for certain "conditions"? Then your system is a loser. You have to be able to bet on every single hand. This way? Your system will face all hand combinations.

    Fourth, which is the most important one, TEST YOUR METHOD THOROUGHLY. Just because you beat a few hundred shoes that you recorded from your local casino, does not mean your system is a winner. Test your method against a simulator. A real baccarat random (rng) simulator. If your system, cannot stay positive, winning over 1000 units, flat betting, against a simulator? Then it will not work. Please people....this is VERY important advice. Too many times, people are in such a rush to use a system that has won fairly often enough in the casino. Listen to me when I say this......even if your system beats the casino shoes for a whole year....they can still lose. Here's why. Random results, force your "system" to face more combinations, much sooner. It's like, putting the house edge in your face all the time. You can be in the casino, and not see enough hand combinations to really see the randomness of the game and the winning rate of the house edge for a long time. Due to weak shuffles, overlaps/clumps in the cards, ..etc. etc. This never happens with simulations. Simulations are harder to beat than live cards because they pit you up against the long term odds much more sooner than live cards. So please, test your method THOROUGHLY against simulations for a long time. And set a number. If your system can BEAT a random baccarat simulator and put you in the positive 1000 or more units? Flat betting? Then you have beaten baccarat.

    I am willing to answer any questions. I have lost so much money playing baccarat before discovering what I have discovered and I have finally made all of my money back plus TONS more. I want people to win. But, I cannot reveal my system to anyone, for obvious reasons.

    Using my advice, anyone can create their own winning system!


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