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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Stephen Tabone, Jul 8, 2021.

  1. Stephen Tabone

    Stephen Tabone Active Member

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    Answered your questions but my replies are being censored and not all going through on this site. "message is awaiting moderator approval" lots of my messages, but then they never go through. Pointless being on this site.

    Did answer all your questions, however my replies are being blocked. Spend my time writing replies only for them to be blocked by this site.
     
  2. mron

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    With all due respect, this smells of trying to avoid the answer to a simple question.
     
  3. Stephen Tabone

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    questions answered number 20 above
     
  4. soxfan

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    I still wanna know how ya can disprove a subjective style, hey hey.
     
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  5. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy Active Member

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    I still wanna know how ya can win by an objective style, hey fkng hey.

    You have won 2.4 millions and still asking for my book?
    Weird enough, testdicaz

    as.
     
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  6. Stephen Tabone

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    all the money you have and you still want more
     
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  7. asymbacguy

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    Actually soxfan is neuronally infected by SARSCov2 since 2010, the first case of this infection.
     

  8. soxfan

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    I've only ever purchase ONE baccarats style and that was from the Leonard Benson over 20 year ago. I have no interest in yer nonsensical asym nonsense. I got no interest in bulls shits style what rely on trendings, and stop win, stop loss nonsenses. And I got no interest in listening to coconuts who advise making stooooooooooooooopid wager on the player sides of the equation. Yer about as intelligent as the john-O, lmao, hey hey.
     
  9. asymbacguy

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    Yep, you're the only one intelligent here, every other person is a moron.
    Low probability but it can happen.

    Btw, after your 2.4 million winnings, are you driving a Ferrari?
     
  10. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Soxfan turning into the forum troll! Constantly lashing out like a losing wounded animal repeating the same thing over and over. One can only feel sorry for him.
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    People are adding their winnings but not the losses to the casinos.


    Then the bankrolls are "tweaked".
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Why single out one person who is not scamming any one ?

    It is the internet if you want to be a winner so be it .
     
  13. Half Smoke

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    I don't know about you guys but if I had a system that I knew could beat bacc, and I had been doing it for a long time - I would be wagering at least $50,000 per hand - not € 50



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  14. Stephen Tabone

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    There's never any certainly, any guarantee what the outcome of a future games might be therefore playing with a bet size that one feels comfortable with for long term enjoyment, small gains and at a level that is manageable moreover for progression should be considered by each bettor.
     
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  15. Half Smoke

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    you're contradicting yourself - you previously tooted about how your system proved itself over 100,000 hands and how you are going to hire data analysts to prove your system over 500 billion hands

    you're obviously indicating you have an edge

    great gamblers with an edge increase their BR and their bet size

    they are still able to play with a small risk of ruin

    you obviously haven't done that .............................betting € 50

    it looks like you're not all that impressed with your own system

    two of the great well known gamblers out there - Tommy Hyland and James Grosjean bet way, way more than that

    $ thousands per resolution when their edge is large


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  16. Stephen Tabone

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    You are quick to judge.
    1. The people you refer to are blackjack players predominantly.
    2. To put the record straight or so that you are better informed if you have not recognised your oversight if unintentional (though it appears not), I have not referred to blackjack.
    3. Then you fail to state which game you are referring to, unless you assume it is blackjack which it is not. I think you are taking information from one post and implanting it -- unfairly -- into another post. I think you know full well what you are doing and you will not succeed in making it appear that I do not know what I am talking about.
    4. You fail to state what "system" of mine you are referring to, moreover you should full well know that the system I refer to has not even been published yet, thus you are judging that system as well as my bet size.
    5. My bet size that I stated refers to my general "average" bet size in response to another poster in relation to a number of different systems combined, some better than others. It does not follow that this is my bet size for the system yet to be published.
    6. No person including the ones you reference and/or those who wager $50k or more can say for sure that the next outcome will be this or that. The best I can do is look at my rule based bet selections based on patterns I have identified and the data tests conducted, consider the probabilities that side A will be the outcome in the next game over side B or vice versa in some of my systems and will succeed over players who do not, I believe I have an edge yes, in that I will get more decisions correct, but still in any one particular game/outcome I give no guarantees and never have, thus I do not contradict myself therefore refute your allegation that fails to prove anything. Nevertheless I thank you for your reply, however your efforts to prove any negative point you make on this occasion have been futile.
     
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  17. Half Smoke

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    that is false - they come in all stripes and make huge bets at many different games including baccarat when they have a legitimate edge due to the technique known as edge sorting

    in the world of gamblers claiming greatness - size matters

    that is what the world looks at in addition to the size of the winnings and the legitimacy of their methods

    you - betting € 50 are a small time low roller trying to claim greatness by publishing some bogus books that have gotten no serious attention from gambling authorities because they don't deserve any attention

    your claim of greatness:


    that dog won't hunt
     
  18. Stephen Tabone

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    I get the impression you're the kind of person that goes around hating people and as I previously wrote, judges and uses snippets of information to form a false narrative. That's a pretty low life, attention seeking, narcissistic existence to be fair.
    1. I see no evidence of the people you refer to making $50,000 wagers or as you wrote 'huge bets' on baccarat and 'many different games' ...even though casinos don't have "many different games" in fact there are a limited number of games!
    2. You go on to refer to 'edge sorting' I think you need to research the people you refer to because they are not known for edge sorting. I think you are confused. Ivey is mostly known for edge sorting. And although it's advantage play it's deemed as cheating and indeed ruled by a number courts including the UK Supreme Court. Therefore that kind of edge sorting is not great regardless of the bet size. Moreover casinos make changes when they find out so as to put a stop to it.
    3. One of the people you refer to...Tomas Hyland's blackjack team has used multiple advantage gambling techniques, including computer play, shuffle tracking, and ace sequencing. All these methods gain players a higher edge than card counting and are harder for casinos to detect. He did not use 'edge sorting' / Hyland team had built their bankroll to roughly $50,000 and His original blackjack team had four players who each put $4000 into the team bankroll, therefore starting with $16,000, thus $34,000 profit less expenses, I would say at least half over the time period. Where are these $50,000 wagers you refer to so as to be great?
    4. The other person you refer to, James Grosjean was getting glimpses of dealer's unturned cards, to try and gain an edge. There is no evidence, none whatsoever that he made $50,000 wagers. This kind of advantage play doesn't have longevity. I'm a professional pattern player and outcomes systemiser. The strategies I form and not based on cheating, on trying read face down cards, and in baccarat the cards do not matter, what's important to me are the outcomes the then drawn cards form. There are no cards in roulette.
    5. As I previously wrote, but you don't seem to understand, I consider the probabilities that side A will be the outcome in the next game over side B or vice versa in some of my betting systems and will succeed over players who do not because they do not do all the research and testing as I do.
    6. Bet size is not important, some people bet $10, some $10,000, what's important is the strategy and only the strategy. You will not get any worthwhile strategy from the people you reference, none whatsoever. Basically my strategies on baccarat and roulette are the best in the world therefore they are great whether you like this fact or not, I don't really care, but this is the reality.
    7. I have wagered big into the 1000s, but as stated many of my average bet sizes are lower due to the fact I'm also testing the strategies I form. There's no point in me saying I bet x amount because I wouldn't be believed. I know that my golden secret baccarat strategy has been used by whales who do make large wagers.
    8. You don't deserve any more of my attention. Clearly you also have jealousy issues. My books are not 'bogus' as you wrongly and maliciously claim, my books are genuine and true, they do not deceive, the contents are properly formed betting systems and strategies. I have an edge using my strategies over bettors who have no structed form of making bet selections and wagering increases and decreases. You're a small time, Anon, keyboard hater on a gambling forum site making up lies and spreading misinformation and probably part of the cancel culture. But hey, I thank you for your reply and interest in my great casino games betting strategies.
     
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  19. CT70

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    To Half Smoke, you need to get your facts straight and you have no business disparaging and judging Stephen Tabone. Bet size is not the only indication of a players success, “bet selection” is. I agree with what Stephen has said. He is an author and creator of strategies and must test the strategies he creates in live casinos. What player in their right mind would want to test with large units? That would be foolish. 99.9, if not 100% of whales betting 50k+ wagers are lifetime losers. They’ve made money in other areas of their lives by means other than baccarat but choose to play baccarat for FUN and entertainment. Moreover, until you’ve read his books and you can win 7-10 units merely by flat betting, and without the use of a negative progression ,then maybe I’ll listen to what you have to say. Until then, I think you should keep your sarcastic disparaging comments to yourself and learn to flat bet.
     
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  20. Myrtlejones

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    It amazes me that people just do not get it, the game needs a percentage to win, the player never knows when that percentage is going to hit, only that it will come, manage the money part until it does and if you have a decent bet selection it will come,( full smoke) you must be a big time player yourself,do not worry though cause magic mushrooms will be here soon, you will become HALF MUSHROOM
     

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