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Roulette Flashback to the 60's

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Simple and basic - pay attention :)
    (there may be a test)

    Random is predictable


     
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  2. Spider

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    Very interesting video Turbo, thanks for the link.
     
  3. RouletteGhost

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    Random is predicatable for sure

    We know there will be repeats

    We know in 37 spins approx 1 third will not show

    But how do we use this to our advantage

    Id much rather you explain it to me....the numbers hitting above expectation thing. Then anyone else

    If a number hits twice in 15 spins this is above expectation.....but no guarantee it hits 3 times....right?
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    "37 spins and approximately one third of the numbers will not show."

    So what! It's like the even chance law. 18/38. In 38 spins, a little bit less than half will be red/black. There's no information there that tells you which is more likely to hit on the next spin.
     
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  5. RouletteGhost

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    The only point im making is that aspects of random can be somewhat predictable. Not meaning choosing the exact number but we can develop some sort of idea based on stats

    We know there will' be repeats. We know there will be a repeat number hitting 3 times in 37 spins....etc.....

    Id rather not discuss it with you though Caleb. Thanks though
     
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  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You're wasting your time for reasons which I've already explained. I suspect that you too already know this much, which is why you're not capable of explaining how the "idea" can be of value.
     
  7. RouletteGhost

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    K caleb.

    I was speaking to TG FYI
     
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  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Actually there is. You're just not seeing it. I can only suggest that you think about it some and when it comes to you - you might laugh and say "Oh shit, it can't be that easy"
     
  9. RouletteGhost

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    I am interested TG if you could go on ......
     
  10. mr j

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    Two days ago at RF, you said you have nothing more to learn (your words).

    Ken
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Ghost,

    Just curious, why are you even here?
     
  12. RouletteGhost

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    why am I here? Do you mean this forum or gambling forums in general?

    I suppose you do not actually care what I have to say but I have some free time before the wife makes me watch stranger things on netflix so here goes:

    Many years ago I won, won, and won in Vegas. paid for my trip and more. On roulette

    I was a newbie and convinced there was a winning roulette system....

    I researched day and night. stumbled on the forums. Read a bunch there. tried a bunch of things.

    I started with martingale like every newbie does and moved up from there

    switched to baccarat then back to roulette


    then i came to terms that roulette is not beatable by conventional ways........however i still developed systems on my own with a glimmer of hope that i would win long term making methods of my own.......i have some damn good ones using triggers that do win more then lose

    i was married, bought a house and now do not have money to put up like i used to, so now i have transitioned into a recreational player...

    i have no strive to beat the game because i know it will only bring disappointment. I do not have the time to learn AP

    I know the game has a HE that can not be overcome. However, I do believe that some "systems/triggers" are BETTER then others based on "rarer" events

    i stick around because i like the game

    i do play for fun a few times a week on celtic live wheels

    and i play recreationally on airball at resorts

    although my systems may be silly to the AP player I do enjoy creating them

    before you attack my grammar for not using punctuation or proper capitalization, i typed this fast and dont really care either

    -roulette is random
    -i do believe random has limits (not real limits, but things that just do not happen or happen rarely)
    -i like what TG has to say in regards to random, I am with him 100% on that
    -i think there are other ways to view the game then AP players see
    -i think caleb that you should respect non AP players and let people do what they want and play how they want without getting forest whitaker eye
    -i would not dare play martingale methods now, i play conservatively, very conservatively and with only money i can afford to lose. AKA my lights will stay on at home...im not a junkie

    Hey general, when you posted about AP i never bothered you.
    I even invited you for dinner when you were at resorts because im on long island 30 minutes away.
    You became a douchebag and us long islanders do not take kindly to that

    Do you think if someone told me there was a bias wheel at my casino that i would be in LA LA land? FUCK no id be all over that wheel like an asian in vegas when i was single

    P.S. this forum is a fucked up place
     
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  13. RouletteGhost

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    my attacks on you are NOT because of the AP message

    I believe AP should be known

    I believe system players should be playing at their own risk

    I do NOT BELIEVE someone should carry on like you do though...its weird
     
  14. mr j

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    Hey RG, this is really NOTHING (lol).

    Him and I went back and fourth like nothing you can imagine. Just accept the guy, he's not that bad, honestly.

    As far as now?.... I realize his passion for AP and its not really my place to knock it as I did. Besides, I'm just too fuckin worn out (lol)

    Myself? H.E. blah blah blah.

    I know I do VERY well, I am 100% positive on that, no doubt. You also have to learn a lot about CASINO life, its not all about roulette by itself. Thats why I admire Phil Ivey. The fuckin guy learns and learns and I have HUGE RESPECT for that!!

    There are things to learn about the dealers. Learn about pit/floor, what they are looking for and comps etc.

    If you had a very good day (I dont mean $200), how to get to your car safely (lol), no lie. I can go on and on and I know most of it. I focus on so much more other than the ball spinning. Parking, shift change, ball size, which dealer I'll have, who gives me a hard time etc. etc.

    Ken
     

  15. RouletteGhost

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    TG i just watched the video

    all i can say is wow

    random really is predictable if you think outside the box

    random would have to operate with infinite numbers to be unpredicatable

    the box if dice they had is similar to the roulette wheel

    how can it be used? well i do not know the answer to that....

    ive seen that graph before. same trend with anything in life
     
  16. mr j

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    This game is more about learning what does NOT work. Focus on what does NOT work. Cross off around 60 ideas and go from there, trust me!!!!

    You are in this *STAGE* (thats not an insult) of.....GUT and law of the third. Get rid of that type of thinking !!!!!!!

    Ken
     
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    It's not even law of third Ken. That's classic variable change. They take dice away before the next throw. The particles decay and are not part of the next available reading. It's not predictable just because it follows a similar path. The conclusion is sophistry. What it does very well is follow the reduction of cards in 21 and that depends more on the relative factor of how many players there are. Don't mind me. All I did was watch the film and read the conclusions.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    What a load nonsense. 21 (blackjack) and roulette are not the same. Roulette is a game of independent trials, but blackjack is not.

    By the way, that movie, "21" was absurd. There are so many problems with it. It doesn't even remotely resemble what card counting is actually like, or how an AP operates. The movie was ridiculous.
     
  19. gizmotron

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    Nice going fool. Context must be a taboo in your convenient world of pestering people.

    "What it does very well is follow the reduction of cards in 21." "IT" is in reference to the movie's demonstration of variable change. And I don't mean the movie 21. We agree only you didn't catch that because there's very little light where the sun don't shine, you know, your point of view. there's a movie at the top of the thread for you to watch. Roulette is a game of independent trials.
     
  20. RouletteGhost

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    Bahahhabah!

    That was a good one

    Caleb totally just got the wool pulled over his eyes. No clue what you were talking about

    That was funny
     
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