Roulette Flashback to the 60's

The argument for and against 'systems' is always that each spin is independent so you can't predict the next spin.
I agree.
Just like the video shows with the Geiger counter - each click was random, there is no way to predict exactly when it would happen.
However - as a series of random event... the "tenths" column on the meter became more predictable, the "hundredths" column on the meter was very predictable, and I'm sure the "thousandths" column would be so close that you could set a watch to it. Laughs.
The "anti"s will always then come back with "That is all data that you get "after" the fact - and you can't use it to predict future spins" - which can be taken as truth (somewhat).
For example... If I say that in a cycle of 37 or 38 spins that at least 1 number will show 3 times.... then the "anti" can say "You don't know which number, there are 37 or 38 possibilities" - and that is where they overlook the obvious.
When the payout is 35 to 1 and the possible winning numbers are 37 or 38 - then no, making a profit of any kind on a regular basis would be incredibly hard. But it's not even close to 1:38 or 1:38 possibilities....
As a matter of fact - the math is clear that the player has a large advantage over the house as each spin rolls off.

 

Thank you for the explanation TG

Theres always more to things then a basic black and white scenario.

The problem with AP players if they see this game in black and white. Not caleb, i mean in general (no pun intended)

In this basic and simplistic explanation: there will be a number that shows 3 times in 37 spins (if this were true) then when you sit at the table once a number repeats, bet it, bet the other numbers as they repeat up to a few numbers. After 37 spins reboot

If there is math behind it then this would be more then a mechanical system

Theres absolutely smart ways to play this game other then finding a flaw in the gaming device

This can be disagreed with. Thats no problem. But mutual respect would be nice. Ya know, an agree to disagree. We don't need forum nazis

 

The next spin is independent and the outcome is as likely as any other

This is understood

But in the broad spectrum of the game as a whole, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that certain things can be predicted pretty accurately

 

I think the point we can take away is that when someone says random is not predictable that means only the surface has been skimmed

This video is proof

 

I've been so bold to even say that Roulette is "Only" beatable because it IS random.
If each number that the ball lands on is removed, so you had less and less numbers each spin
until you had 2 and the odds were 50/50 - and the payout reduced appropriately as the spins
happen..... Roulette would be damn near impossible to win at.
The fact that each number can repeat, and that the outcome is random - makes it incredibly
predictable.
When you start charting things and thinking (really thinking) - you end up exactly where you
said RG....
If I can "know" (not 100%) that there's a number that will show 3 times.....
and my list of possible numbers to play are only numbers that have shown twice.....
There is no longer a 1 in 37 or 1 in 38 chance of winning.
As a matter of fact, if played properly - you almost can't lose. (note my signature image at RF - if
it's still there)
4th repeat ? 5th repeat ? 6th repeat ?
The anti's should stop for a moment and notice how the hundredths column on that video clicks
away at a very predictable rate - and how the charts make the same pattern regardless of there
being 8 squares or 64 or 10,000 squares... You "Can" know what's coming and it can be predicted
accurately enough to defeat the (very small) house edge.

 

It's said that the Law of thirds is nonsense and a fallacy.
So chart it.....
How many numbers don't appear in a cycle of spins.
How many numbers show once.
How many numbers show twice.
How many numbers show three times ?
You'll have interesting data and you'll be hard to find a cycle without a third win.
You can carry this on for as long as you'd like, roulette makes a pattern ONLY because it is random.
This can be exploited - unless someone can't figure out how to 'know' what number(s) to bet on.. in
which case, they should probably be working on another hobby.

 

100 percent understood

Quite fascinating

To pick your brain a bit. Say hypothetically speaking you were to begin betting a number after it hits twice within 37 spins. Would you stop betting it if it got that 3rd hit?

Reboot next 37 cycle?

 

Grins.

Well.. theoretically - I could then start a series of bets looking for the 4th hit. The list of possible numbers to bet on would be small but the only number(s) that could win would be any number(s) that have hit 3 times.
Hypothetically of course...

 

Obviously while waiting for a double hit the dealer doesnt let you get comfy

Have to place some bets in between

Could be teriffic for airball provided its a fair machine

 

Do you look at past spins when betting Turbo? As ive been trying to work out a way i can start betting as soon as i get to the table as i thought this is how you play? When i play at home i now chart the numbers and start betting when a number has hit 4 times adding and taking away units as numbers are hit/cycles of spins reached etc and doing very well. What im having problems with is trying to bet at the casino using this info as i want to start betting straight away. I think i have a couple of ways that might work but they need a big br as some times you need to wait for the numbers youve chosen(these can change slightly over cycles) to start repeating but so far once they do they keep hitting and hitting! but ive come close to maxing out a couple of times.

 

1. 36
2. 28
3. 34
4. 14
5. 34 start betting 34
6. 0
7. 14 start betting 14 and 34
8. 1
9. 32
10. 31
11. 27
12. 25
13. 24
14. 27 start betting 27, 34, and 14
15. 11
16. 33
17. 3
18. 25 25, 27, 34, 14
19. 5
20. 30
21. 3 3, 25, 27, 34, 14
22. 15
23. 27 heres our 3rd hit (27)
24. 15
25. 27
26. 31
27. 19
28. 3
29. 27
30. 35
31. 20
32. 6
33. 7
34. 4
35. 16
36. 33
37. 16

did not profit flat bet though.....damn close though....

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38. 3
39. 30
40. 31
41. 7
42. 12
43. 23
44. 7 start betting 7
45. 2
46. 29
47. 15
48. 23 7, 23
49. 9
50. 32
51. 21
52. 27
53. 2 7, 23, 2
54. 33
55. 12 7, 23, 2, 12
56. 9 9, 7, 23, 2, 12
57. 19
58. 31 31, 9, 7, 23, 2, 12
59. 15 15, 9, 31, 7, 23, 2, 12
60. 13
61. 12 3rd hit right here
62. 11
63. 12
64. 19
65. 29
66. 34
67. 30
68. 19
69. 25
70. 27
71. 18
72. 1
73. 30
74. 30
75. 22

 

1. 00
2. 33
3. 11
4. 31
5. 12
6. 14
7. 10
8. 5
9. 15
10. 36
11. 34
12. 0
13. 30
14. 22
15. 33 33
16. 18
17. 33 3rd hit
18. 9
19. 10
20. 17
21. 24
22. 2
23. 14
24. 30
25. 27
26. 2
27. 18
28. 18
29. 21
30. 26
31. 13
32. 11
33. 22
34. 24
35. 14
36. 00
37. 18

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38. 25
39. 6
40. 0
41. 5
42. 0 0
43. 26
44. 21
45. 25 0, 25
46. 15
47. 10
48. 4
49. 24
50. 24 24, 0, 25
51. 2
52. 4 4, 24, 0, 25
53. 00
54. 25 3rd hit
55. 24
56. 14
57. 1
58. 12
59. 12
60. 24
61. 23
62. 29
63. 20
64. 35
65. 1
66. 36
67. 5
68. 13
69. 22
70. 00
71. 9
72. 20
73. 1
74. 28
75. 14
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1. 24
2. 31
3. 32
4. 21
5. 1
6. 12
7. 16
8. 00
9. 32 32
10. 13
11. 3
12. 29
13. 23
14. 0
15. 29
16. 36
17. 1 1, 32
18. 31 1, 32, 31
19. 22
20. 19
21. 24 24, 1, 32, 31
22. 0 0, 24, 1, 32, 31
23. 9
24. 12 12, 0, 24, 1, 32, 31
25. 32 3rd hit
26. 10
27. 36
28. 9
29. 17
30. 27
31. 2
32. 1
33. 34
34. 22
35. 0
36. 14
37. 13
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as you can see, it is just about a given.

obviously some type of money management is needed.

obviously a negative progression is taboo...

but personally i do not see it working flat bet

yes the hits come....for sure....BUT..........

 

spin 25 again 27 - 4th hit
spin 29 again 27 - 5th hit

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spin 63 again 12 - 4th hit

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"just sayin' - hypothetically"

 

by the way this forum is a free for all

some of it is actually repulsive

the sanest member here is Sparky. he respects everyone, even if he disagrees.

 

Your first set of 75 spins made $1,750.00 flat betting $25.00 chips
Your second set of 75 made $1,850.00 flat betting $25.00 chips
The last set ended at spin 37 - $800.00 flat betting $25.00 chips
(granted I may be off slightly because I'm 1/2 awake)
For $2,800.00 profit for 187 spins or +112 units
(as an example only)

 

turbo those figures you just posed, that was continuing to bet the repeating numbers even after the 1st win correct?

 

Yep

 

That graph on rfcc looks nice but doesn't work. It's been coded. But there's more to it...it sure was a great start to look at roulette from a different angle. So thank you TG. Much appreciated. I'm currently doing pretty good lately with the hotties. But I don't bet much numbers and I reset the session if needed too. TG your holding back some very important info. Lol. Can't blame you though.

Grts