Roulette Flashback to the 60's

Well said.

 

Looks like this will be our new Gambler's Glen.

 

All of the ingredients are here - just add water.
Wait.. is Mark here - because it's not GG without Mark lol

I really miss that guy - sorry lol
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin...n=opentopic&topic=2411&forum=Roulette_Archive

"And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;
"Now, Turbo! now, Ahcoln! now, Cloud and Fruity!
On, Kelly! on Docker! on, V and Babalouie!
To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall!
Now dash away! dash away! dash away all!"

lol. Those were fun days indeed. I guess we can find someone to take his place.
Let me think.....

 

This is great. We have snowman and his son Tattoo. It's like seeing that guy on the Ed Sullivan Show that spins the plates. You just got to keep those plates spinning on those sticks. It's riveting. You can't look away.

 

It is great !!
Remember GG ? So many years ago you were saying the exact same thing as now in 2011 ? -

gizmotron Posted: 25-Mar-11 11:18
I just won't do a full explanation on the internet in the wide open. It would wise people up. A demo is a far better way to do this. It proves nothing. It does not make you right or wrong. But a demo starts people to take more interest in it. And that is what you don't want. I do, but just a little so that it comes out very slowly over the next few years. That's my basic plan. It's still the same goal. How it happens remains to be seen.

The same goal indeed. Without a doubt. Shame.
Oh well, to each their own.

 

Just noticed that the usual suspects are meeting again.

 

we all agree that roulette is random

we all agree that the next spin can end a streak or start a new streak and we do not know which way it will go

however, science has proven, PROVEN, there are predict-abilities in random. Especially when the random device has a limit and is not infinite.
This cannot be disputed

 

Ghost,

Read more on the history of the game. "Reading random" is nonsense. It's like reading bones or tarot cards. It's what scammers sell because it's easier to sell than it is for them to win. If you want to win, stop focusing on the gaming felt and pay attention to the wheel. The wheel isn't always random and it can sometimes be exploited.

 

Shrugs.

A bias wheel player and a system player who bets on hot numbers will end up betting the same numbers - each for their own reason and each would be right to play their own way.

 

Caleb is a bias wheel player

which I can admit is admirable

That is damn cool

However, just because he beats the wheel (supposedly)...does not under any circumstance mean he "knows it all"

Not everything is black and white

what he fails to understand is that not everyone WANTS to play his way

I give him credit...I am just tired of hearing "study the history of the game"...."fools folly"....."gamblers fallacy".....in no particular order.....we get it.

 

Turbo,

It's not like you might think.

Let's hook on Skype sometime and I'll run some simulations for you.

 

Don't do it Turbo

He skypes naked and has teddy bears in the background

 

Well, hell - count me in then ! lol
I'm kidding, just angry because that's what I was going to do - now I need a better idea.

I'm not sure there's much to explain though - a bias wheel player is going to end up playing hot numbers (or hot "something" because of the flaw in a wheel. The system player who is playing hot numbers (or hot "something" because that is how their method works) will end up playing the same numbers, or "something".
I said in other threads about hot numbers how both sides can agree and will end up winning together for their own reasons but will be playing the same numbers. (not an AP expert but I have to be close to explaining this properly).
One thing you would never do (either way of playing) is sleepers or fallacy methods where "something is due".
Neither would use progressions that get out of control - as a matter of fact, flat betting is best for the kinds of things that I've found to work the best.
If anyone took the time to look at the "38 people go into a casino" thread (or was it 37 - well, it depends on the wheel). You'll clearly see how 13 people flat bet a large number of spins and won. They won playing the hot numbers - the AP player who finds a bias wheel would also be one of those 13 (probably not the #1 spot, but in the top 5 I think)

 

Turbo,

What sticks most players attempting to play a biased wheel are the playing conditions. They often change, and the numbers will sometimes change with the conditions. There's also variance. Differentiating between variance, changing playing conditions and hot or biased numbers can be impossible at times without the supporting data. Consequently the hot number player is often left chasing some random goats because they don't have the data behind them.

My advice is to play your hot numbers only as long as the conditions remain consistent.

The game is won by observing the wheel and the data. Not just the data.

 

Agreed

 

WTF? A SYSTEM PLAYER WILL LOSE IN THE LONG RUN that long run will Actually happen fairly quickly when dealing with roulette because the massive HA. A slot VP or Keno player probably has a better chance at being a lifetime winner by getting lucky and hitting something big with a small wager. Someone explain why in all the history of gambling no betting system has ever been proven to work on something with a HA either by math or in practice ? I'll tell you why... because it's impossible? All systems are BS people can get lucky for a while but for every lucky person there's an unlucky person. Most betting systems work to where a person has a higher probability of being ahead at some point. Such as martingale you can get into the high 80 to 90 % chance of winning especially if you fool yourself into thinking that you're luck magically resets after you leave the casino or go to sleep and wake up the next day and use stop loss methods.

lets look at Martingale $10 bet with a $2000 bankroll an a $2000 table limmit 00 roulette after 1 hour of play at 30 spins
you have an astounding 82% of being ahead on average $132 with an average loss of $922 playing 8 hours it drops significantly to a 38 % average win $1136 average loss $1202.

People think with money management self discipline and stop losses they can trick the odds. "If I only quit while I was ahead" "If I don't chase my losses and stop at my loss limit" People who are affected by gamblers fallacy have something wrong with the development of a part of their brain. Children are much more likely to be susceptible to it the younger you are the higher the chances.

Gamblers fallacy is actually very interesting if you read more than just the basics about it including the studies and psychology.

 

Thank you Fossell for finding the video - the original was deleted.

 

Excellent contribute!

We can't predict what and how much, yet after a given amount of trials we may predict the "when" range.

 

Unfortunately the "when" range is larger than the "pay" range. In other words there's nothing there that you can exploit, as the house payout is still short.

 

Should read "there's nothing there that I can exploit" because I sure as hell found something to exploit.