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Baccarat Follow the Last anyone?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by fathead, Sep 7, 2022.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I have said it before and I'll say again that in my experience the result you get buckin up against run/computer generate result DO NOT match what you will get buckin up against legit, hand dealt baccarats game. That's why I knew zumma result are computer generate garbage just like the rng result from the insipid game on the wizard forum. There can be no other explanation for how and why my style captured 1.25 units nets profit in testings of 10 000 live dealt evolution gaming shoe plus 5 000 shoe from my data base of mortar and brick casino dealt shoe. And, playin live so far against those same evolution gamings live dealt shoe I am lookin at a nets profit of just under .9 units nets profits buckin up against over 1300 play shoe, hey hey.
     
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  2. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Wow that casinoverse is ripping new arse there. Spread and min is terrible, here in skipptophia I thought we getting dry arse shafted by monopoly one horse town casinoverse operator. Stadium easy money outlay on staff wages, they use monkeys to deal, $10-$1000, $50-$5000 here in raccoon city.
     
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  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Really? How do you explain the fact that the Zumma shoes produce the same expected values of P and B as brick and mortar shoes? Same as RNG shoes that I've accumulated.

    If what you're saying is true and your Banker Style is losing them like you said then you'd expect that there'd be a lot more Player outcomes then expected that are the cause of your loss.

    It seems more likely that you've made a lot of mistakes by hand testing. It seems it would be a simple matter to prove.
     
  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    yeah that little Indian casino can't afford the Heat like the big joints. It's pretty nice country down there though. A lot of poor also.
     
  5. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    It is one of the most poor counties in North Carolina. But you’re right it’s very nice over there. And we go to the gem places over in Franklin while we’re there.

    If you ever go back, there is a little pancake place across the street called Frontier. It’s essential. Great breakfast buffet for damn near nothing. Better than paying out the nose at the Gordon Ramsay Food Court in the casino.

    The casino is good. Payouts not so good. WSOP events there regularly. We get comped there regularly for rooms so we’ll go usually once every month or two because it’s fairly close.

    Delaware North is building a casino 30 minutes from us. It’s all slots now and now a sports book. Also an Indian casino. And they’re already in trouble with the Feds. Should have the full casino open by the end of 2023.
     
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  6. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    It has been a few years but I have been to Cherokee Valley River further south in Murphy, NC. At that time they had a decent baccarat pit with $25 minimum $3000 maximum. Basic casino otherwise, not really a showpiece like many places.
     
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  7. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    We’ve not been there yet. We thought about driving over there when we were at Cherokee in June but didn’t pull the trigger.

    Not flashy at all. That’s why I like it or Tunica instead of Vegas. Fewer distractions so you can actually gamble.
     

  8. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I read that MGM is selling the Gold Strike in Tunica to the Cherokee Nation, but I think they are out of Oklahoma, not the North Carolina group. Not sure how that will change things. Caesars tore down the Sheraton/Roadhouse.
     
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  9. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    I heard that too. It is the Oklahoma folks. Sheraton was one of my favorites back in the day. Shame they bulldozed it. I wonder if Caesar’s will build something there next to the Horseshoe.
     
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  10. JacobBlaze

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    Continued success to you Soxman, what was your worst drawdown during those 1300 shoes? I too think that RNG shoes are way different than BandM shoes.

    But RZs AI doesn't care about where the shoes come from and just chooses RNG due to speed and online availability. I'm sure he's Ai would pick up patterns or lack of patterns in BM shoes just as well.
     
  11. JacobBlaze

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    Maybe you don't understand Gas lighting lol
     
  12. JacobBlaze

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    Soxy,

    If.no one has done it yet I plan to recreate the shoe from Rz and look at the betting patterns in relation to the styles we see here, soxy and punky styles mainly.

    With your high rate of winning if you had the right bet increases (progression) I think you would win very handsomely.

    I wonder if the Ai can be pointed to only betting bankers and using the same pattern recognition..but banker bets only etc??
     
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  13. Punkcity

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    Don’t really matter if it can or cannot, we the joe average “ain’t gonna git it” as it’s a black box that is not going to be made available to all. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy for some one to succeed and wish all the best of good intentions to him. His toy, his fun.

    The rest of you are doing the little Oliver looking though the window and dreaming. Ain’t gonna happen, you ain’t gonna git the info as the op doesn’t know how it works and he program it himself as I’m lead to believe. You can conjecture yourselves inside out but your waste your own time with this one. Those that can program ask for the code and see if rz1000 makes it available to you. If he does good luck to you also and happy winning.

    Ok back to the real world now.
    Cheers
     
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  14. JacobBlaze

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    Thanks for doing this again I reviewed the video and tracked the bets and made the bacarat scoreboard. I hope I didn't make mistakes, but I'm sure I did.

    I will post it in a new thread.

    When did you determine it was stopping time, because of the video length or was that your normal stop?

    You said before that you ignore ties but they change your bet amounts, but in the video it seemed like if there was a tie you immediately made the same bet (maybe because you only tied on the $25 1x feeler bets??) I noticed the speed because I was writting down every bet.

    If you decide to do the full AI test don't worry about the time it takes because the viewer can easily speed up the video on YouTube to 1.5x 2x speed etc.. besides you taking your time out of your day, those who are really interested can watch what they are interested in at any speed Etc.

    Thanks
     

  15. JacobBlaze

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    You break our hearts too..lol let us dream...

    Yeah I get you, it is very interesting to me though because I mess around with basic AI stuff and of course you know my passion for Bakaratz.... Ohoh where is the admin Nazi spelling police...

    Are you still not traveling? No permission from the Mr. Yet?
     
  16. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Just to reiterate I did enjoy the video and the effort. Thanks rz1000.
    Oh rz1000 are you related to diamondsmaker2020 by any chance?
    Lol don’t answer that as irs a private joke lol. Cheers
     
  17. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Lol.
    Not mobile yet. Having to sort some things out. Lol.
     
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  18. JacobBlaze

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    Your electric scooter got hacked? Or are you still scared of the Corona...lol
     
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  19. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Lol
    Any beer if you have to stuff a wedge of something in , is not worth drinking. Also imho any beer in a clear see through bottle is an immediate non starter. Looks like piss taste like piss. But if your into the golden shower then don’t take my advice. Lol.
    No scooter for me , few years away lol. I’m dealing with government things here and it’s very Asterisk and the 12 tasks at the best of time but throw in the Covid mess and you just get monkey shit flung far and wider than usual. Lol.
     
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  20. JacobBlaze

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    Here's the Rz video breakdown

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/rz-10000-ai-played-wiz-shoe.24520/#post-152173

    I was surprised how few times it actually ramped up the bets, now it's time to look for patterns..lol
     

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