TurboGenius For the naysayers

On one number you understand how big is variance ? You very easy can be 1000-1500 from house edge line and can be the same as up or down that line , but main is that "aim" of all chart is result acordingly house edge. And more you play - more down is that "aim"...
You show one sequence, other sequesnce will be another - third again another , but with every added sequence chart line will be more and more similar to that red line which show house edge...

 

Correct, and we can use that to win but it is called a fallacy.

I completely agree - there is no reason why this has gone as long as it has over time. I say we put an end to it and prove it
once and for all, whoever is right at least there will be an answer.

I agree. And below is a graph that I don't think people consider. We can both be right and the player still wins.

Yes, which is what I want to happen as well. See below.

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So my nonsense fallacy example system says to wait until a number is far from what is expected, far
below what the house edge should be in the data. Consider that I haven't placed a bet yet. Fair ?

Here is the results... and ignore the $ amount because for this it's not relevant.


This green line, moved to the 0 line means a massive profit, and yes the number is still
behind in appearance and still hasn't broken the math because we are winning right
where the house edge says we should be. BUT we are ahead 550 units flat betting.
I hope this makes it more clear, at least visually.

And yes you can say it's handpicked results... so fine... Pick ANY point (and there are
plenty) and yes a profit will have been made using nothing but past spins and this "fallacy"



It's all based on this fallacy, something being "due" and catching up to where it's expected
to be - and every line regardless of where you start points to profit.
How this isn't indisputable proof is beyond me.
I don't think people consider that not betting and charting spins only means that even
if a number never reaches 1 in 37 you still win.

If I make a line where the expected house balance is, pick anywhere below that line
(which would be charted and not played) and you win.



Any point that you pick below the black line will have ended the 6000 spins in profit.
So we're clearly using past spins and data to find where to bet - and that is no fallacy.

If you agree that numbers should appear 1 in 37 but then call it a fallacy to expect
a 1 in 80 number to work towards 1 in 37 and making a profit all along the way because
nothing was lost on it while it was under performing -
then I really don't know how else to demonstrate it. If there is another way to show it I will.

 

This looks just like stock traders that select their timing from observable moving averages using support and resistance figures from carrots in a stock trading chart.

 

That's why i always start betting on a number once it shows, not sooner.
Any number, any location that is behind it's average point is due to catch up, PERIOD!
Anyone can test this to an endless extend. Everyone who say this isn't the case, well they should stop at the nearest school and ask if they can give math education to him yet again.

 

Oke one number played for 6000 spins



How would you have played this one? Adding a unit every 100 units you are down? The hole goes deeper and deepers.

Yes you have sessions like yours, but also like mine. Combine them... its 1:37

 

You don't need math. Because math will never tell you when what you want to happen will happen in your session. You need knowledge of what typically happens and have a way to deal with it when you don't get what you want.

This chart is of every number on the wheel and the interval space between hits respectively:

Code:

01) 041, 056, 013, 035, 006, 085, 002, 012, 039, 
02) 010, 020, 023, 036, 005, 031, 116, 
03) 075, 007, 006, 015, 057, 011, 022, 018, 019, 001, 102, 004, 009, 
04) 018, 045, 049, 032, 009, 091, 003, 010, 041, 004, 019, 035, 
05) 024, 075, 121, 025, 039, 036, 
06) 005, 023, 085, 005, 051, 006, 011, 087, 003, 027, 003, 047, 
07) 031, 004, 003, 047, 067, 004, 001, 013, 032, 006, 001, 062, 011, 068, 021, 
08) 056, 074, 017, 056, 012, 047, 008, 034, 023, 043, 
09) 013, 023, 028, 142, 015, 012, 026, 054, 048, 
10) 022, 033, 072, 071, 006, 023, 027, 006, 088, 
11) 032, 049, 019, 001, 028, 108, 091, 
12) 060, 011, 012, 012, 022, 018, 148, 061, 
13) 002, 019, 012, 036, 004, 017, 003, 022, 196, 011, 044, 
14) 020, 019, 010, 025, 006, 011, 085, 053, 006, 011, 045, 073, 
15) 016, 121, 168, 036, 016, 
16) 045, 002, 023, 037, 036, 096, 027, 
17) 023, 103, 038, 013, 033, 091, 011, 023, 
18) 012, 040, 059, 013, 039, 020, 004, 032, 023, 023, 069, 011, 004, 
19) 072, 109, 024, 063, 006, 011, 002, 007, 014, 046, 006, 007, 
20) 015, 002, 023, 014, 062, 032, 006, 025, 011, 027, 062, 001, 020, 062, 
21) 003, 041, 061, 054, 014, 027, 078, 
22) 029, 261, 048, 
23) 006, 036, 017, 007, 021, 019, 014, 062, 067, 058, 007, 029, 
24) 068, 018, 010, 006, 006, 015, 049, 023, 018, 155, 
25) 037, 013, 011, 079, 027, 032, 073, 054, 014, 007, 
26) 004, 003, 007, 012, 020, 087, 016, 012, 004, 036, 087, 043, 005, 
27) 001, 077, 031, 059, 024, 020, 106, 021, 
28) 043, 005, 017, 012, 042, 031, 039, 075, 052, 
29) 019, 112, 066, 021, 040, 071, 001, 012, 021, 
30) 011, 023, 102, 052, 006, 059, 028, 015, 027, 009, 027, 
31) 025, 032, 005, 052, 018, 059, 023, 049, 004, 048, 036, 
32) 076, 022, 006, 017, 018, 002, 017, 016, 049, 017, 011, 010, 032, 004, 020, 048, 
33) 008, 019, 095, 016, 008, 016, 070, 093, 030, 
34) 079, 005, 058, 024, 014, 036, 009, 009, 118, 006, 
35) 184, 001, 022, 041, 007, 014, 
36) 009, 042, 016, 088, 023, 018, 026, 004, 002, 015, 013, 039, 004, 010, 015, 
37) 058, 034, 036, 006, 090, 028, 023, 002, 009, 006, 018, 009, 050, 

 

Here is another one...

 

Don't you see the upticks in the moving averages as the graph overall descends?

That's 6000 spins and it's loaded with massive opportunities to kill off the casino. If someone explaining how to do this won't help then figure out a way on your own. You know what to look for. Figure it out.

 

Here is one for 15.000 spins. The beginning looks like turbos session...

Where to start after it went downhill @TurboGenius? -200 -1000???

 

Oh please dont give me that reading random crap...

 

So your just waiting to see what number appeared the least for 6k spins and then simulating
that you bet on it the entire time ? I get accused of hand picking things you know lol.
You charts doing it that way will just take longer before the climb happens and it ends around
the house edge. I picked the number that was the last to show and then went from there.
To take the coldest number at the end and play it isn't the same thing.

As to your last post, I would have stopped playing it when it was in profit.
That is when it will drop back to the 1 in 37 where it is supposed to be and I lose.
Why would I bet on it then ?

 

Not if they don't see it. I suppose that's a good thing though.

 

Hahaha I figured you would say something like that. Now If we could only bet on something like that we would have a sure winner lol!

@TurboGenius I wish you all the best! I really do!

 

It's not. It's reading hottest numbers crap. And you can do a fine job of ignoring it. Nobody has to come here and figure things out. But hanging around and polishing your Spandex is also a load of it.

 

You bet it's a good thing. If everyone knew this crap the news feeds would run change figures for opportunities like they do with the Dow Jones Industrial Averages streams all day long.

 

Has anyone ever challenged Turbo to put up just one W/L statement from a casino?

Removal of my post coming shortly as he does with everything that shows him as the long term roulette loser he is.

He avoids WoV where math matters.

 

What is wrong with my logic. Read the posts on this forum or any gambling forum and you will see they talk about losing way way way more often then they talk about winning. Because losing is very easy to do. Therefore more of your effort should go into not losing than into winning. If you are not losing the wins will take care of themselves. How's that for logic

 

Too bad it doesn't work that way. When you see outcomes that are not playing your game it's never the total opposite of your game. It's always a mixed bag. Nothing in roulette is black and white. If you play the sequence it might be lose win-lose win-lose win. Who needs that, it's like kissing your sister. Not very thrilling

 

Nonsense as expected.
I simply moved your childish off-topic posts to the off-topic section.
Was it a mistake ? Did your posts insulting me add to the conversation ?

Your upset because I moved this drivel nonsense to the off-topic section ?

I'm sad to let you know that this is my section and I can remove anything or move anything that
violates the site's terms or my own in this section.
You are free to start your own sub-forum and bash me in every post.......
But here - it won't happen. I'll also remove my own post because this has nothing to do with the topic. Understand ?

 

I was actually just thinking... how come you're the only one who has their own forum? I assume that not everyone can start their own, right?