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Roulette forget any other system this is the holygrail

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by tasos007007, Jul 28, 2024.

  1. netto

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    Tasos, I'm curious, do you play those THOUSANDS of simulation spins, one at a time by hand (pen and paper), determining for each player their bet and selection each time?
     
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    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/b3070493400af15d17bd8fba763671ef

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    so the key that the lower debt players do 2 bets instead of 1 make any system unbeatable here we have the attack-defeat[defense] system
    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/the-attack-defeat-roulette-system.26968/
    lets see n example debts are 40---39---32---32---15---4

    next spin attack 42---41---36---36---19---8---4 bet 24u on 12 straights if lose
    next defense --- --- --- --- --- ---5 bet 1u on line if lose
    next defense --- --- --- --- ---9---6 bet 2u on 2 squares if lose
    next defense --- --- --- ---20---10---7 bet 3u on 3 squares if lose
    next defense --- ---37---37---21---11---8 bet 5u on 5 squares if win 8-8=0

    next defense --- --- --- --- ---12 bet 1u on split if lose
    next defense --- --- --- ---22---13 bet 2u on 2 splits if lose
    next defense --- ---38---38---23---14 bet 4u on 4 splits if lose
    next defense ---42---39---39---24---15 bet 5u on 5 splits if lose

    next attack 44---44---43---43---28---19---4 bet 24u on 12 straights...........etc
     
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    even this old system wins lets see it
    rules the players bet for leader's debt.when we add player the players with lower debts do 2 bets instead of 1 example

    debts are 50---40---30---20---10---6
    next spin 52--- --- --- --- --- bet 2u on straight if lose
    next 54---42--- --- --- --- bet 4u on 2 straights if lose
    next 56---44---32--- --- --- bet 6u on 3 straights if lose
    next 58---46---34---22--- --- bet 8u on 4 straights if lose
    next 60---48---36---24---12--- bet 10u on 5 straights if lose
    next 62---50---38---26---14---8 bet 12u on 6 straights if lose we add player so
    next 64---54---42---30---18---12---4 bet 26u on 13 straights if lose

    next 66--- --- --- --- --- --- bet 2u on straight.................etc
     
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    any strategy wins thanks to the key that the lower debt players do 2 bets instead of 1

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    these 13 games are some variations ill describe later
     
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    bnkroll=155 rounds=255 profit=101
    bnkroll=156 rounds=402 profit=114
    bnkroll=1015 rounds=826 profit=73
    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/1f9ad7bd133d94fe2a6a2b7b26c06a1f
    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/9347bf63665332d36fca1af8df111c44
    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/b0bc1a8ed910d5a018a777635fb131b8
    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/52ade4a8c372f8f73eda9237ccf25b1f

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    this strategy is also tested in live roulette lets see it
    rules:each player bet for his own debt after a lost spin we add a player and the players with lower debts we write 2 bets 1 for their own debt and 1 for leader's debt but we only bet for their own debts and we use the non betted u to reduce leader's debt example debts are
    80---79---75---65---30---13---5
    next spin 83---82---81---70---34---17---9---4 bet 9u on 3 straights[83---82---81] 2u on straight[70] 1u on straight[34] 1u on split[17]
    1u on street[9] 1u on line[4] the non betted u are 18 [so the for next spin leader's debt is 83-18=65] lets say we lose so debts now are
    82---81---70---65---34---17---9---4 so

    next spin 85---84---76---70---39---21---13---8---4 bet 9u on 3 straights[85---84---76] 4u on 2 straights[70---39] 1u on straight[21] 1u on split[13] 1u on square[8] 1u on line[4] the non betted u are 21[ so leader's debt become 85-21=64]lets say square wins so8-8=0 so debts now are 84---76---70---64---39---21---13---4 so

    next spin 87---79---73---66---41---22---14---5 bet 9u on 3 straights[87---79---73] 4u on 2 straights[66---41] 1u on straight[22] 1u on split[14] 1u on line[5]
     
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    this strategy is interesting
    rules the leader bet always on corner 0-1-2-3 and if he wins we reduce his debt the other players bet 1spin on 19-36 and 2nd spin for their own debt after a lost 2nd spin we add player if 19-36 wins then we reduce leader's debt. for debt 1-35 leader bet 1u and each player bet 1u on 19-36 for debt 36-71 leader bet 2u and each player bet also 2u on 19-36.if leader bet 1u and a player bet 1u on square and the player wins we consider that leader wins so we reduce his debt same if leader bet 2u and a player bet 1u on split we consider that leader wins so we reduce his debt

    example debts are 34---34---30---25---15---10---5

    next spin 35---35---31---26---16---11---6---1 bet 1u on corner[35] and 7u on 19-36 if 19-36 wins then 35-13=22 so
    next spin 37---32---27---23---17---12---7---2 bet 2u on corner[37] 3u on 3 straights[32---27---23] 2u on 2 splits[17---12] 1u on square[7] 1u on dozen[2] if dozen wins 2-2=0 so

    next spin 39---34---29---25---19---14---9 bet 2u on corner and 12u on 19-36 if lose
    next spin 41---35---30---26---20---15---10 bet 2u on corner[41] 4u on 4 straights[35---30---26---20] 1u on split[15] 1u on street[10] if split wins then 41-17=24 so

    next spin 37---32---28---26---22---17---12 bet 2u on corner and 12u on 19-36 if 19-36 wins 37-23=14 so
    next spin 33---29---27---23---18---15---13 bet 1u on corner[33] 2u on 2 straights[29---27] 2u on street[23---18] 2u on 2 splits[15---13] if lose

    next spin 34---30---28---24---19---16---14---1 bet 1u on corner and 7u on 19-36
     
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    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/6d156ab2b6c681a6504e59c27cec1866

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    this strategy is a small variation of the last strategy.here we have 2 leaders the biggest debt leader bet always on corner 0-1-2-3 as before while the second leader bet always for his own debt but if he win then we reduce the debt of the first leader the other players bet one spin on 19-36 and second spin for their own debt and if anyone wins then the next spin again each player bet for his own debt but if nobody wins then next spin we add player and they bet on 19-36
     

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    if this strategy works it's the best of the best it's unbelievable ill test it in ranked game and i ll stay on this strategy forever

    rules each player bet for his own debt but if he wins then we reduce leader's debt.the key to success is that the leader bet the same as the last player [if there is space otherwise he bet the same as the next player.i ll not describe an example but i ll make a virtual game to see some details.so now i ll describe some spins and i ll continue at next posts here we go

    write 1 bet 1u on ec if lose
    next spin write 2---1 bet 1u on dozen[2] 1u on ec[1] if ec wins then we reduce leader's debt so 2-1=1 so debts now are 1---1
    next spin write 2---2 bet 2u on 2 dozens if dozen wins 2-2=0 so debts now are 2---0
    next spin write 3---1 bet 1u on line[3] 1u on ec[1] if lose
    next spin write 4---2 bet 2u on 2 dozens here we see that leader[4] dont bet on line but the same as the last player[2] if win 4-2=2 so debts
    are 2---2
    next spin 3---3---1 bet 2u on ec[3---3] 1u on the other ec[1] [or we bet 1u on ec only and if we lose we consider that the 1u on ec won ] so
    3-1=2 so debts now are 3---2---1
    next spin 4---3---2 bet 1uon dozen[4] 1u on line[3] 1u on dozen[2] here we see that leader[4] bet the same as last player[2] if lose
    next spin 5---4---3 bet 2u on ec[5--- ---3] 1u on line[4] if lose
    next spin 6---5---4---1 bet 3u on 3 lines[6---5---4] 1u on ec[1] here we see that there is space for new player [1] but the leader[6] bet the same with next player[4] if ec win then 6-1=5 so debts now are 5---5---4---1
    next spin 6---6---5---2 bet 2u on 2 dozens[6--- --- ---2] 1u on square[6] 1u on line[5] if line win 6-5=1 so debts are 6---5---2---1
    ................to be continued stay tuned
     
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    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/11683135ce8679fc4df08ec3d7d8e7aa

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    the system works good.at the non ranked game i made a small change that is the leader bet the biggest possible field.when the leader can bet on ec and at that spin there is no win for any player then next spin we add player.so from now on i continue the previous game with this new rule here we continue
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    next spin 7---6---3---2 bet 2u on 2 dozens[7--- --- ---2] 1u on square[6] 1u on line[3] if dozen win 7-2=5 so debts now are 6---5---3---2
    next spin 7---6---4---3 bet 1u on ec[7] 1u on square[6] 2u on 2 lines[4---3] if line wins 7-5=2 so debts are 6---4---3---2
    next spin 7---5---4---3 bet 1u on ec[7] 3u on 3lines[5---4---3] if ec win 7-1=6 so debts are 6---5---4---3
    next spin 7---6---5---4 bet 1u on ec[7] 1u on square[6] 2u on 2 lines [5---4] if lose
    next spin 8---7---6---5---1 bet 3u on 3 squares[8---7---6][or bet 3u on dozen] 1u on line[5] 1u on ec[1] here we see that the biggest field that leader[8] can bet is square .if ec win 8-1=7 so debts are 7---7---6---5---1

    next spin 8---8---7---6---2 bet 2u on 2 dozens[8--- --- --- ---2] 3u on 3squares[or 3u on dozen[8---7---6] if dozen with 1u wins 8-2=6 so
    debts are 8---7---6---6---2

    next spin 9---8---7---7---3 bet 1u on ec[9] 3u on 3 squares[or 3u on dozen][8---7---7] 1u on line[3] here we see that the biggest field that leader[9] can bet is ec if ec win 9-1=8 so debts are 8---8---7---7---3

    next spin 9---9---8---8---4 bet 1u on ec[9] 2u on 2 squares[8---8] 1u on line if line win 9-5=4 so debts are 9---8---8---4---4
    .............................. to be continued stay tuned
     
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    the last strategy made me think of the following strategy that it seems to work.rules each player bet for his own debt but if he wins then we reduce leader's debt. the last player bet always on ec 19-36 the same amount of u as leader bet and if he wins then we reduce leaders debt without keeping profit.after a lost spin we add player if there is empty space.example debts are 40---30---25---20---15---10---5

    next spin 42---31---26---21---16---11---7 bet 2u on straight[42] 3u on 3 straights[31---26---21] 1u on split[16] 1u on street[11] 2u on ec[7] if ec wins 42-4=38 so debts are 38---31---26---21---16---11---7

    next spin 40---32---27---22---17---12---9 bet 2u on straight[40] 3u on 3 straights[32---27---22] 2u on 2 splits[17---12] 2u on ec[9] if lose

    next spin 42---33---28---23---18---13---10---2 bet 2u on straight[42] 2u on 2 straights[33---28] 2u on street[23---18] 1u on split[13] 1u on
    street[10] 2u on ec[2] if street with 2u wins then 42-23=19 so debts are 33---28---23---19---18---13---10---2

    next spin 34---29---24---20---19---14---11---3 bet 2u on 2 straights[34---29] 3u on square[24---20---19] 1u on split[14] 1u on street[11] 1u on ec[3]
     
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    this system is combination of previous ones lets see it 1spin leader bet for his own debt while the other players bet on ec 2spin each player bet for his own debt while the last player only bet on ec.after 2 lost spins in a row we add player.any win give us u to reduce leader's debt

    example debts are 40---30---10---5
    next spin 42---32---12---7 bet 2 on straight[42] 6u on ec[32---12---7] if lose
    next spin 44---33---13---9 bet 2u on straight[44] 1u on straight[33] 1u on split[13] 2u on ec[9] if lose then we ll add player since its 2loses in a row so

    next spin 46---35---15---11---2 bet 2u on straight[46] 8u on ec[35---15---11---2] if ec wins then 46-15=31 so debts now are 35---31---15---11---2
    next spin 37---32---16---12---4 bet 2u on straight[37] 1u on straight[32] 2u on 2 splits[16---12] 2u on ec[4] if split wins then 37-17=20 so
    debts now are 32---20---16---12---4

    next spin 33---21---17---13---5 bet 1u on straight[33] 4u on ec[21---17---13---5] if lose
    next spin 34---22---18---14---6 bet 1u on straight[34] 2u on street[22-18] 1u on split[14] 1u on ec[6]...........etc
     
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