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Craps Frank S posted this article to Casino City times...

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by IndieFilmGuy, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. IndieFilmGuy

    IndieFilmGuy Guest

    Frank S posted this article to Casino City times http://scoblete.casinocitytimes.com/art ... ever-63667

    I created a program that simulates this method for the Field Bet. Some interesting data emerged:

    1,000,000 rolls
    Unit Bets Made: 453796
    Unit Bets Won: 476001
    Field Win Rate: 104.89316785516

    (the win rate is much higher running the code on windows due to the different way random is determined)

    Below is the code in c# that can be run on http://www.tutorialspoint.com/compile_csharp_online.php if you want to see it run

    Code:
    using System;
    using System.Collections.Generic;
    using System.Linq;
    using System.Text;
    using System.Threading.Tasks;

    namespace rolls2seven
    {
    class Program
    {
    //static Random die = new Random(DateTime.Now.Ticks.GetHashCode());

    static void Main(string[] args)
    {
    //run one million rolls
    bool bComeout = false;
    int DiceRoll;
    bool FieldRepeat = false;
    bool FieldBet = false;
    int FieldWin = 0;
    int FieldBetMade = 0;
    int rolls = 1000000;

    for (int i = 1; i <= rolls; i++)
    {
    DiceRoll = dieroll() + dieroll();

    if (DiceRoll == 2 | DiceRoll == 3 | DiceRoll == 4 | DiceRoll == 9 | DiceRoll == 10 | DiceRoll == 11 | DiceRoll == 12)
    {
    //Field
    if (FieldBet)
    {
    if (DiceRoll == 2)
    FieldWin = FieldWin + 2;
    else if (DiceRoll == 12)
    FieldWin = FieldWin + 3;
    else
    FieldWin = FieldWin + 1;
    }
    if (FieldRepeat) //Second field hit in a row
    {
    FieldBet = true; //Turn on Betting
    FieldBetMade++;
    }
    FieldRepeat = true;
    }
    else
    {
    FieldRepeat = false;
    FieldBet = false;
    }

    }
    double FieldWinRate = (Convert.ToDouble(FieldWin) / Convert.ToDouble(FieldBetMade)) * 100;
    Console.WriteLine("Unit Bets Made: " + FieldBetMade);
    Console.WriteLine("Unit Bets Won: " + FieldWin);
    Console.WriteLine("Field Win Rate: " + FieldWinRate );



    Console.ReadLine();



    }

    //Random
    static int dieroll()
    {
    //Random die = new Random();
    Random die = new Random(DateTime.Now.Ticks.GetHashCode());
    return die.Next(1, 6);
    }
    }
    }

    Statistics: Posted by IndieFilmGuy — Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:52 pm — Replies 2 — Views 281

    Source.
     
  2. Frank Scoblete

    Frank Scoblete Active Member Founding Member

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    I do not see how the system I wrote about --- half in fun --- could prove to be a winning system. I think other simulations should be done.
     
  3. ddarko

    ddarko Member Founding Member

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    @ Frank

    Your replying to a thread from another forum, so don't like, expect a reply from the OP !!!!
     
  4. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    The method basically reads like:
    "Let’s say we want to bet red or black. You stand and wait for two of the same color to appear and then you bet on that color. If that color wins, you bet again on that color and you keep betting that color until you lose a bet. Then you wait for either red or black to come up twice in a row and you proceed once again.

    Now, if you place your bet and lose right away, you wait for a two color sequence again in order to bet. Note well, the only time you will ever bet back-to-back on a color is when you have won a bet; a loss immediately stops you from betting. The tendency for many gamblers is to get frustrated with a loss and to keep betting over and over, usually increasing their bets as the frustration grows. With the SBTBB this will not happen (I hope).
    "

    I do not think this method can withstand any one million simulation.
     
  5. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    I just simulated this idea on 1600 shoes of zumma baccarat on player bet(a total of 114,075 trials without "Tie"). Got 4520 losses vs. 4427 wins
     
  6. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    In banker bet, wins are slightly better than losses (as will happen if we play only Banker bet) but when we deduct the house fees, it is still losing.
     
  7. Frank Scoblete

    Frank Scoblete Active Member Founding Member

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    Agreed. This is not a winning system. Because you are sitting out so many rolls it will save you money. That just means you are gambling less.
     


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