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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. MDawg

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    UNKewlJ (and a lot of others who post over at VCT) are a bunch of yahoos who stumble over their feet to try to dispute what someone who really knows the score has posted. All they end up doing is looking stupid.

    I post only that which I know by personal experience, so if any try to dispute it, I know right then and there that they are just plain not in the know. It's foolish to try to argue with the Pope of Las Vegas.
     
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  2. redietz

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    If you'll notice, I didn't say any of the things Mr. Singer attributes to me in the post here. I will say, six-figure, or even mid-five-figure bettors can negotiate better odds than available to the general public. In fact, I know someone who helped negotiate -105 at MGM for years.

    Here's some specifics -- going back to Stupak making a million-dollar-plus wager (in cash) on the old Bengals/SF Super Bowl at Little Caesars to Floyd Mayweather routinely betting half a million plus (in cash) at various sports books around town, including MGM, over the last 10 years to Phil Ivey and Billy Walters betting cash, to an Italian cartel betting six digits (in cash) on individual NFL games from 2000 to 2010 at MGM (having negotiated -105), Mr. Singer is woefully misinformed.
     
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  3. redietz

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    The comical thing is I just gave a brief list of specific examples. The Stupak, Walters, and Ivey betting, plus Mayweather, anyone can google. Those bets were almost all cash. The Italian cartel, not going to find that googling, but I can get direct quotes from the person who organized the cartel, so no issue with corroboration there.

    But Mr. Singer, he of course will have NO examples of casinos not allowing people to report jackpots and all that. He's going with the Catch-22 argument. Well, if people weren't allowed to report it, they all just didn't report it. So there is no evidence because, well, how could there be?

    It's just asinine. Anybody who buys this Singer story deserves sympathy.
     
  4. MrV

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    What a crock of shit!

    Bwa ha ha ha


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  5. KewlJ

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    Rob does this all the time. It is right out of the Rob Singer playbook. Today for instance he said something about the NDA comments were my line. I don't think I ever mentioned an NDA is regards to Singer. I believe MrV did. My NDA comments are in regard to the MDAWG-Wizard situation. If memory is failing me and I did mention something it was just that no casino would require that. That is just not how things are done.

    A while back, I complained to management here about things said about me that are just flat out lies. Management responded that the way to handle that was to demand that the person prove what they are saying or link to where it was said. I have done that with both Rob and Mdawg and they just ignore it.

    Meanwhile, when Rob says something that is a complete lie, like completely re-telling the events of the proposed Dan Druff meetup, I go back and and find the exact thing he said or quotes of what he said that completely contradict his new alternative version. But that doesn't do much either, he just ignores it or comes up with more completely altered, alternative reality.

    So the question becomes, just how much time and effort do you want to waste, digging up what these clowns really said, only to have them deny it even in the face of the proof. THIS is the game these people are playing.
     
  6. MrV

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    Rob is only doing to us what his hero, Herr Trump, has done to the American people.

    Gaslighting and denial.

    A clever play, but not a successful one.
     
  7. Mickey Crimm

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    I can't remember much about Rob's UX play, I remember the 1.5 Mill hit but that's about it. I can't remember the bet level or the hand. That's how much I care whether Rob hit the jackpot or not. But with KJ and his crew....their whole world will fall apart if its true. That's how much they have mentally and emotionally staked on it.

    Different from Nevada there isn't much video poker in the casinos across the country compared to video slots. But most all of them have UX. And when I see a ploppie playing video poker most of the time it's UX. It might be the most popular video poker game now.

    If you look at the payscales they are mostly in the 96% to 98% range. That's a big money maker for the casinos. However, UX is a game the casinos are very leary of. And it's because of the potential for much much bigger pays than normal video poker.

    Take $1 denom video poker where you are betting $5 per line. The biggest hit, the royal pays 4K or 800 for 1. The flopped royal pays the same, 4K per line. On a ten play that would be 40K, or 800 times the bet.

    But on $1 UX where you are betting just twice as much as regular VP, $10 per line the maximum hit is $480K. That's 4800 times the bet.

    It's definitely a long shot hit. You have to flop a full house to get the 12X multipliers on the next hand, and then flop a royal on that hand. The math looks like this:

    Flopped full house: Average 694 hands
    Flopped royal: Average 649,740

    694 X 649740 = 450,919,560

    That's pretty long odds. But if a house has 12 UX's getting action every day there is going to be a lot of flopped full houses then the person just has to flop the royal on the next hand. It's not a matter of if it will happen, it's just a matter of when. I had 6 flopped royals in my VP career.

    So casinos limit their exposure/risk on the game. In a lot of houses you won't find $1, $2, $5 denom UX in Ten Play or even Five Play. Just 3 Play. But they allow Ten Play on the lower bet levels like 5 cent, 10 cent, quarters.

    Some casinos won't even have $1, $2, $5 even in Triple Play. Just the lower denoms. To much exposure for them.

    What would casino employee's have to be embarrassed about? First of all is accepting a high denom proposition with a high risk of a huge hit. The higher the denom the higher the pays. Someone could make a four of a kind with muliplliers like 10X, 12X that would be such a big pay that would cause them to quit.

    Why would they possibly not want it publicized. Maybe by customer request. But they could possible be covering up for their bad decision. Many in the casino industry would consider it stupid to assume that much exposure and might even ridicule someone for doing it.
     
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  8. KewlJ

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    That is correct MrV. The objective for these clowns is not to be right, or prove that they are right. Nor it is to prove anyone else wrong.

    Victory for these severely disturbed people is measured in how much they can make someone waste their time and just how far down the rabbit hole they can get people to chase them. That is ALL it is about. It is narcissism at its most basic level.
     
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  9. redietz

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    Rob tries to pull off moronic things with language. Like he googled me and writes that I had "a losing record." LOL. Note the "a." And note no reference to any time, date, or season.

    Did I check up on it? Hell, no. He's probably quoting from me. I've had between seven to nine losing seasons (depending on how or if one includes futures in the season averages) in my 45 years of doing this. I have a losing season every six to seven years on average. That's the way it goes. I lost my very first truly professional season (1980). What I did I do? I gave people their money back.

    So did I have "a losing record?" You bet your sweet bippie. And 1980 was one of them. As Queen says, "And bad mistakes? I've made a few."

    But note how slimy Rob was with this. Instead of saying "a losing season" or some such, most of which are on record since I've been documented by everyone forever, he trickily said "a losing record" without specifying the time parameters of "record." So one would reasonably interpret his line as meaning "a losing record overall." Sorry, Rob, I ain't close to losing lifetime. I'd have to live another lifetime to blow what I've done. Or start betting martingale style.

    MrV, you gotta be impressed with his legal beagle verbiage.
     
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  10. Mickey Crimm

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    Trump did more for this country than any president in my lifetime.
     
  11. Mickey Crimm

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    You can nail the spreadsheet up on the wall and throw darts at it. Whatever team the dart hits is the one you bet. The expectation is 50%.
     
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  12. MrV

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    Oh, but Rob is a clever, clever boy, well schooled in the art of deception.

    I'd expect nothing less than that from a man from U.N.C.L.E. such as he.

    His ability to twist square pegs in order to try to force them into a round hole is quite remarkable, if for his relentlessness if nothing else.
     
  13. redietz

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    I'm sure you're right, mickey. Mickey "The Truth" Crimm knows all. A true Leonardo da AP. Not a jack of all trades. A Leonardo of all trades.

    By the way, when people asked me in interviews how I handicap the NFL, I have on occasion given a Hunter Thompson answer regarding hallucinogenics and a dart board. So maybe mickey googled one of my old interviews.
     
  14. RobSinger

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    Too much rambling about weird things by redietz. He must be flustered and nervous at the same time.

    And isn't it fun watching kew once again humiliate himself? Yeah, the little twit will claim "I'm not ENGAGING Singer guys--I'm only discussing him with others"!

    But as we all know, he can't make a post without whining about me, whether it be here or on VCT. So YES, the idiot just can't get me out of his little head. I haunt him during his concocted daytime forum life and I haunt him when he tries to sleep.

    Has there EVER been a more solid, commanding ownership in history? :)
     

  15. Mickey Crimm

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    Some people soak up knowledge like a sponge. You are not one of them.
     
  16. RobSinger

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    Anyone who wants to think Trump, as our President, hasn't done more good and great things for this country since Abraham Lincoln, will see their thoughts on the wrong side of American History beginning in 25 years. Once he passes and finally people start trying to see things the way they really are, they'll realize how he ran the country like a successful businessman runs a successful business, and not as just another one of these lobbied politicians.

    When it came down to it all, he was a President who was extraordinarily despised by the left whenever he accomplished something good for the country--which were often and many. It's obvious how in this country, we would rather see the politicians who are in "the other party" fail rather than succeed. He succeeded, which created hatred.

    Similarly, the fake Russian collusion etc. etc. etc. led by pencilneck (and dick) Adam Schiff--who had and still has no shame being exposed as a liar--and the illegal antics of Hillary Clinton along with the unprecedented corruption within our DOJ & FBI, will all see their walls come tumbling down over time. And when this finally occurs, history will fully exonerate everything about Donald Trump and eventually accept as truth, everything he said about every single one of his despicable opponents. And who but him could have so accurately predicted how the Democrats would have manipulated a "pandemic" into a method of "winning" a Presidential election by slight of hand?

    I hope I'm still here when the day comes.
     
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  17. RobSinger

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    Next up: kew.

    As you read thru his history of posts over these last few years you'll see serial lying, a totally concocted virtual internet forum life, a deep-seated hatred of successful gamblers who don't do things as he preaches in his plagiarized essays...and his near-maniacal frustration over his inability to cancel ME. So is it any wonder why he leans on the Martian for help, and why he makes such a fool of himself with nearly every post?

    "That's not the way it works in LV".....riiight.....!
     
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  18. MrV

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    What is this "slight of hand" to which you refer.

    Oh, wait...you're one of those whacky election deniers?

    Are you Trumpies STILL clinging to that old chestnut?

    You birds have had YEARS to prove it, in and out of court, with ZILCH to show for your efforts.

    Give it a rest boyo, just accept the reality of his well-deserved defeat.

    I could refute your arguments about Trump's legacy point by point but to what end?
     
  19. redietz

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    Yeah, democracies should always stifle as many voters as possible. It's the American way.

    I think Trump should have jettisoned the crazy Jewish laser stuff or the Bolivian voting machines or whatever and the nonsensical stuffing of ballot boxes and all that zombie-brained junk, and he should have laser focused on the problem of corporate media and institutions censoring the Hunter Biden laptop schtick. As dumb as it is, after all Trump's shenanigans, censoring that story had some effect, possibly significant, on the election. But instead of just hammering that particular conspiratorial narrative home, the Trumpster splattered every psychotic delusional fairy tale on the wall to see if anything would stick. When all of the lurid shit failed to provide any iota of proof, nobody cared about a low key slimeball story involving the president's son. Bad strategy by the Trumpster.

    And I was rooting for him because, well, I won't live forever and I need some entertainment.
     
  20. RobSinger

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    Given what a mindless section of the country you choose to live in, you get a pass on this because you abuse toxic drugs. I understand why you claim to be able to "refute" Trump's future legacy though, but need to dodge it so you don't look too looney.

    There's no such thing as "election denier". Trump saw right thru what the Democrats were doing the moment the country learned that Facebook guy donated $477million for ballot boxes in each of the swing states' biggest cities.

    Also, explain how Biden got more votes than Obama with less Dems registered to vote....and after none of his rallies got more than 200 people. And all this, while Trump got more votes than any other incumbent president, with more Republicans registered to vote than in 2016.

    What I'm saying is Biden's election, while being almost impossible to prove was "gaffed", will in fact eventually and finally be corrected in the history books.
     
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