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TurboGenius Gigi's HR tests

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Gigi666, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

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    I had similar idea early on, but removing the numbers does not make much sense, since some of those will hit more than once in next cycle, but your idea about waiting for 1/3 of them to hit is close to what I am doing. Lets say I am expecting 4 wins in a cycle so if win no.4 is a new high I stop, if not I keep betting until any new high, sometimes it wont win as you can see on my charts, then you can decide whether to increase the base stake per number for next cycle or just keep it flat.

    There are many ways to play this, but I find those 1 hitters to be quite successful, they are not cold and not hot, but in theory have better chance of becoming hot than cold, since we already have a subset of cold numbers present.
     
  2. jekhb1976

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    the only thing we need to ask ourselfs is;

    What's the difference in betting all the 1 hitters, or all the 2+ hitters or just against all odds, betting all the unhit numbers?????

    the following is me betting all the unhit numbers after 37 spins up till spin 111.
    playing 11 unhit numbers.
     

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  3. Naughty but nice

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    Eddy

    TG did this at RF, betting the 1 hit for 37 spins.

    You start of betting each spin with 1 unit.

    Now let’s say the unbelievable happens, all 37 hit once only.

    You have to have 703 units.

    Now as you’re placing the unit on each number, one of the 1x’s hits. You now place another unit on the repeat. So, all now have 1 unit and 1 has 2 units. You carry on and add a unit on 1x’s; when another repeat happens add the unit to it. It might just be the 1st repeat that has 2 units, now it will have 3 units.

    703/36 = 19.52 or 20 wins 20 *36=720

    If you could get 20 wins, you’d be a winner. It’s basically a prog of 1-2-3-4-5

    Data says you’ll have 16 repeats in 40 spins 1-3-5-7=16

    Lott has 24/13 repeats in 37.

    So, the 16 repeats in 40 means 24 non-hits. The extra 3 spins in Lott could be 3 repeats. So, at 40 spins there’s the 16 repeats.

    All that waffle is to show you, you’d be unlikely to get 20 repeats in 40 spins.
     
  4. Naughty but nice

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    37 spins placing a unit every spin. If you carry on its a bust. But you can always jump if there's a new high.
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  5. Naughty but nice

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    Now if you can only play in TG's fave seat you'd play just 1st doz. Any time a new high, reset. You can play in cycles.

    Gigi, sorry for the interruption
     
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    TG fave seat
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  7. Gigi666

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    Lads this was not meant to be a discussion for various other systems :p
     

  8. 6th-sense

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    The trouble here Gigi is your betting everything ..: redhots statement that a ds repeats 95% of the time in the lower half of streams could maybe help you..
    That is to say the last 3 ds..
    Could you not possibly use this information to your advantage?
    An example would be be to bet only the repeated number in the ds of the ds appear..when the ds repeats then start only with the repeated numbers in each ds as the ds come out..starting with just the repeated ds then each ds as they come out
    Stop win or lose on a ds repeat
    Then start again on that ds repeat
    MM can be adjusted for the game play
    ..
    As I said this is just an idea to mix up information of combined knowledge and not waste units during
    Would this work?
     
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  9. Gigi666

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    I think that is something that @jekhb1976 was trying, though playing just hottest in the column that appears.

    I am really not playing hot numbers in those example sessions but a small portion of the average group (that appeared exactly the expected number of times per number of cycles) for those to become hot.
    Problem is my choice is more or less random from that group so if I played the same spin session I could have slightly different results, so trying to come up with a solid way of what to choose best from that group, that normally gets smaller with each cycle, so I might try the approach you have suggested.
    I could also play all from the group but it means larger draw-downs that do not translate to a higher average profit.
     
  10. Denzie

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    Excatly! You should keep on track. If you're winning then keep going and keep posting results . Others will follow and join. If it loses than you can end the method or tweak it in a new post
     
  11. 6th-sense

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    this idea can be put towards any method as you only have three choices..unhit unique and repeat..even used with nottys hit repeats steps at certain points..
    Well maybe that ..though I don’t personally think so..
    But the redhot stats for ds are there..it’s what’s in those ds that ultimately give you a choice as you read the game ..probably cross referencing with Ayk’s tracker ..you can probably read what’s going on knowing stats at anywhere in the cycle of 37 which to bet for..
    And as you do only start each time on a ds repeat collecting ds until the next ds repeats you are then spreading the cost out more slowly but with greater accuracy
     
  12. Gigi666

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    Tried something following ds with continuous 37 spin cycle to get selections after new high. Don't like the big dip in the middle, as it could go lower than that. Will try same file with progressing cycles.
     
  13. Platton

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    What is ds?
    Gigi, I'm glad you tested with warm numbers and gave an idea of how to test. Did you end up failing? There are bad sessions and in the end you did not start testing yet? Because I'm watching you go on gizmo thread. I can't find enough time to full test yet, but I've started testing so far, on your basis playing only unique for each cycle, and I want to say that is very normal. I've played to the first win so far. There were several subsides, but in the end, then it still turned out to be a plus. Although I don`t like to wait, it could take about 100 + spins to fight back. But this is draft and without the use of progressions. I.e. find the best at your base, then go to the cold, with the idea of a Jekhb, but I think play on cold, as Turbo said, only when it hits. And combine that with your idea. And ideally, I think we need to get to the balance of rates between hot, average and cold. I think so somehow.
     
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    @Platton unless I misuderstood DS is double street :p
    I am just playing around to see if there is a better way than what I played so far. As explained I am playing a pretty much random subset of those numbers meeting each cycles Mean (I also tried playing with a rolling 37 spin cycle , you can set this tracking in RX to always show last 37) and I did use mild progression if a cycle did not make new high. As I was testing other variants I did not post the results here not to mess about too much and jumped back to Gizmo's EC betting to see if I still "get it" ;P, but I will get back to testing with DS and rolling 37 spin cycle as there might be something in there, just need to see how betting flat will work longer term.
     
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    Decided on playing all 1 hits in first cycle, then 2 hits in 2nd cycle etc, rather than a handful of them. Some drawdowns slightly bigger than I wanted but profits are good. Will test few more to see optimial targets for each cycle how many wins to stop at.
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  16. Naughty but nice

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    You'll play all the 1x in cycle 1. That could be 24 numbers.
    Now in top 3 you say you don't want to bet to0 many numbers?
    In the chiefs opening post he gives the clue's. 1x-2x-3x Hmm 4th-5th-6th.
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    This game +131 betting top4.
    The 37 spins actually has 24 of the starting 37 hit.
    The game gave 11 numbers to choose or use!!
     
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    Gigi 8#'s to choose or use????
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    Who's 5th??
     
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    What I meant was play 1hits from 1st cycle during 2nd cycle, 2 hits from 2nd cycle in 3rd cycle and so on. Whether this matters or if playing top 4 hot per cycle would be better is for anyone to test.
     
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    Hi Gigi!

    Could you explain with detail please?

    You bet all 1 hit in 1st cycle in the 2 nd cycle, but do you renove any number?

    Do you use any progression?

    All your sessions finish with +100 profit. What is your stop profit?

    Thanks in advance!!!
     
  20. Platton

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    Hi, Gigi. Glad to see you, and that you testing, and sharing. This weekend, I used the time to the maximum I could to test. All the same, that is, your and Eddy ideas. I did a lot of tests based on you, with different ideas, but I haven't tested all the ideas yet. However, I then tried the progression, which laid out the NBN from the Pryanka possible, but in fact it is just + -1. And it is tough and not impractical, but the flat played pretty well. And I played by the way, as you write now, I took the average for each cycle, and even on 7, 8, etc. cycles there are still 5-6 numbers, but there are 1-2 numbers of average. And where it goes well, and somewhere she does not make a profit for cycle, and then it has to recover, and it will recovers, but this can be long, so it is not effective. Therefore, I realized that somewhere you need to reset cycles again, perhaps as you wrote up to 5 cycles. Then, I tried to reset the cycles every time again, as soon as I made a profit. And I don't remember what happened, it seems good, but there are also subsides that have not recovered, in my opinion. As I wrote, I wanted to find a balance between hot, averages and cold ones, and so then I decided to test unhits to connect them to averages ones. I tried to test what Eddie wrote last and it was just about unhits, I don't know what he was doing there, I tried a lot of options, and a lot of different progressions, but in general I didn't succeed in doing something from them. I don't know how Eddie wins them. And I did not understand how they could be used with the average. That is, I realized that you need to either play on unhits or on averages, you can't combine them together somehow. Unhits have an element that I studied and he is interesting, this is how hot or warm numbers appear from unhits, or rather cold ones. But how to determine which of them will become hot, I could not. Yes, in the end they will all become hot, but at a long distance, and for me it is not effective, and there are those that become, if not hot, then warm in a short time, but here is how to define them I do not know. Therefore, I decided that I still need to return to the averages and test for them. And moreover, based on the cold, based on everything Turbo said, you should not play as if to play, only if you understand which of them will be hot or warm in the near future, and so they are not worth it. Today, too, there is time for testing so I will return to the averages. And I have a question for you - as I realized, you have different sets of numbers from different casinos. And there's not as many spins as I'll see. I just wonder what moment it's better to stop to reset cycles and start again?
     

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