TurboGenius Golden Oldie #1

Last night i went through some very old Turbo stuff and i came across a very old method first presented by Ed back in 2008. I remember playing it back in the day with decent results, but sadly other things got my intention and i forgot about it completely.
This system is also based on the fact that random has limits.
I'm pretty sure if we all put our minds together we can make a very solid system out of this.
Have a great day - Eddy



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May 08, 2008, 11:41:52 PM

Thanks all - nice to have somewhere to post with the unexpected demise of VIP.
I certainly don't have the time that I used to, but I can do what I can and maybe
continue to spark ideas for others as well

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This is a pretty simple and straightforward way to play -
working with repeaters and keeping within a single dozen section of the
table (since I sit next to the wheel (US) - I use Dozen 1 (1-12) when playing this.

I usually run off an example while making a post but in this case I ran one off
this afternoon due to the number of spins and of course the "nice" results -
(better than I have seen at the table) kept me hitting "spin" in RX

There is something interesting that you can find when running off spins or
recording actuals - it isn't 100% (nothing is).. but it is something to take notice
of and this method tries to do that.

Record or note the numbers as they show in a dozen (1-12) and which street
they show as well.

If a number shows and then another in the same street - that street is no longer
playable (example 29,1,00,32,2) now since 1 showed from street (1-3) and then
2... we do not have a repeat.
Now, if you do this once for each street in the dozen, you will see that "almost"
(and I mean very almost) all of the time - at least 1 repeat will happen out of the
4 possible streets in the dozen section.

Here is an example that I can do while typing, I'll grab actuals and show what I
mean.

20080507_6 (table 6 - May 7th) Wiesbaden spins :

12 (note the 10-12 street has #12 marked)
32
30
24
6 (note the 4-6 street has #6 marked)
20
28
28
22
7 (note the 7-9 street has #7 marked)
27
10 (now note that #12 did not repeat - that street is now ignored)
28
4 (now note that #6 did not repeat - that street is now ignored)
3 (note the 1-3 street has #3 marked)
10
31
6
10
2 (now note that #3 did not repeat - that street is now ignored)
27
11
1
11
24
7 (Here is the win)

So, out of the 4 possible streets in dozen 1, one did have a repeater.

(no big deal ?) let's reset the game and continue on with the next spins...

28
7 (note #7 in the 7-9 street is marked)
25
24
3 (note #3 in the 1-3 street is marked)
28
11 (note #11 in the 10-12 street is marked)
21
34
7 (win) and the table/chart resets again.

==

23
5 (note #5 in the 4-6 street is marked)
33
5 (win) and the table/chart resets again

==

36
28
28
22
15
8 (note #8 in the 7-9 street is marked)
26
24
13
31
5 (note #5 in the 4-6 street is marked)
21
6 (now note #5 did not repeat, this street is done)
17
14
34
0
17
34
20
11 (note #11 in the 10-12 street is marked)
29
17
1 (note #1 in the 1-3 street is marked)
11 (win)

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Ok, without going through the next 92 spins - the example is made well enough.

You can "expect" at least one of the 4 streets to have a repeat almost all of the time.

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So... the progression is simple and works as such :

Let's say we are using $5.00 chips for the sake of example...

You will play the initial number that shows in each street as explained above.
"IF" one of the other 2 numbers in that street shows, you remove the bets from
that street only, and increase the bet amounts on anything else being played
by 1 unit (so all $5.00 bets go to $10.00 bets)

Now, let's assume that another street is also being played and one of the 2
other numbers shows in that street - again remove that street's bets and add
1 unit to the numbers being played.

Any win removes all bets from all numbers and the progression resets back
to the min that you are using ($5.00 in this case).

There are also very few spins where nothing at all is being bet on.
The action moves along quite well at the table.

Now - let's say (and it WILL happen) that you go through all 4 streets and they
all end up being non-repeaters (doesn't happen often, but does happen.)
I move the entire progression up by 1 unit and start all over again..

(example with "u" being "units")
1u-2u-3u-4u and no repeats - starting over again
2u-3u-4u-5u etc....

and again, on any win you reset back to 1 unit and begin again new.

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Here is a chart that I ran through for an example.
I used $25.00 chips for the unit size, which also makes for a nicer chart (lol)



Now - it may seem like nothing, it may seem impressive..
The drawdowns might be extreme but of course this is $25.00 chips
with progression (25-50-75-100) and not typical of how most people
will play.

The "math" is impressive (to me)



Here is what stands out -

1) 31 1/2 hours of playing time and very well into profit.
2) the "house edge" is explained below, along with the actual balance :

house edge (spins/37)*average amount bet per spin (negative value)
which is -$2,251.13 (what we should expect to be at)
and the balance is +$20,250.00

A very nice difference there in amounts

Will it end up negative at the house edge amount over time ?
I would assume so, yes.. but it has worked for me live and it is
simple to play (no paperwork needed - charting can be done mentally only)

So enjoy - or improve upon it and report back with your improvements

Cheers

 

Eddy


I was reading an old post by Robert over at RF. 36/24. I remembered your post today. I did a turbo in that post and just played Turbo's
Fave chair. I said in the post in the other seats are the GLOAT's, Saint Steve and the General, Foxy.
I said Saint says to the others, we have a repeat expert in the case of TG. They all laughed and the General said one of is stupid sayings
he won't win dirt.
Well least hit and a profit.

 

You can try and play this simultaneously on 3 dozens. I guess its a variation of TG's streets in dozens combined with singles in streets, which I was exploring in a way that was showing some promise.

Rather than wait for each street to hit, test going continuously. Instead of the losing street being ignored next time it hits before a win, play that number. You will get more wins and less waiting time. Increase stakes as per the original post once a street loses base stake in that dozen goes 1 up, when 4 streets lose in a row go back to 2u and increase by 2u if another street loses. On a win clear that dozen. (example below playing 1u as base stake per number).

 

Looks interesting !

 

Thank you jekhb!

I try to always read your posts.
You are generous in sharing information that you come up with or in this case and many other, you bring up old and new information that you discover and/or rediscover.

 

Are you playing for money or just " testing " ?

 

This one described is very similar to the street smart system...hey yay!