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TurboGenius Here we go again

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The good old horse race.
    Some data from this morning's race !

    Expected 1 in 37 - Needed to profit 1 in 35.

    12 wins in 228 spins on 12 individual numbers. Win rate is 1 in 19.

    24 wins in 469 spins on 24 individual numbers. Win rate is 1 in 19.5

    36 wins in 532 spins on 36 individual numbers. Win rate is 1 in 14.7

    48 wins in 781 spins on 48 individual numbers. Win rate is 1 in 16.27

    60 wins in 1,019 spins on 60 individual numbers. Win rate is 1 in 16.9

    72 wins in 1,184 spins on 72 individual numbers. Win rate is 1 in 16.4 (looks [predictable)

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    But none of this matters, no one can defeat the house edge of 2.7%
    No one can win this long, getting a win in 16 spins instead of 37... it can't be done
    they said.

    Just use any random numbers and get the same results they say...
    So I'll run 1,184 spins in RX and hell, I won't even pick them randomly -
    I'll cheat and wait until the end and pick the number that won the most !!!

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    Well, I guess using any random number won't work - looks like
    cheating and using the hottest number doesn't even come close to my results....

    I hope a maths expert can post below how 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 is
    perfectly random... or how I could never predict numbers to appear
    1 in 16.4 and not 1 in 37. That would be useful.
    Maybe tell us about how random is limitless and not predictable.
    Maybe tell us how bet selection is meaningless and we are all just
    fools wasting our time. I'd love to hear more of that.
    Maybe tell us that past spins don't matter....oh that Fallacy, that fallacy !
    And don't forget patterns - of no use....
    Inform us again that there are just too many pockets on the wheel... darn.

    I'm all ears.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You are using a method of taking advantage of currently hot numbers. It doesn't matter how the best number would have done. I would laugh if you told them how you select and it went right over their heads. You did, didn't you?
     
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  3. Boz

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    Sounds like an easy $30,000 for you.

    https://easy.vegas/gambling/betting-system-challenge

    We both know you won’t do it.

    Also what you posted is pure unadulterated shit and we both know it.

    Like most Roulette “experts” you did this on a computer in your basement and not at an actual casinos where they even put the Hot and Cold numbers up for suckers. I wonder why?
     
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  4. Median Joe

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    Turbo, the terms of that challenge seem pretty good. So why don't you take it up? It would also be an opportunity to silence the mathboyz, or at least keep them quiet for a while.
     
  5. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, In no way do I need the hot/cold display.
    I posted how the hottest possible number couldn't even come close to 1 in 16, so what good
    would a display showing past hot and cold numbers do ? As usual - you never pay attention.

    PS I don't have basement :( I wish that I did.
    I can't post a chart from an actual casino either :( I'm pretty sure that's logistically impossible
    unless they let me use a laptop at the table....................which they don't.
    But lucky for me I don't need a computer at the table to win.
    But since you said it's all BS - "unadulterated" even.... none of that matters.
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    As we all know - no proof is good enough.


    True. So no need to jump through this hoop.

    Agreed.

    Sorry you two - the challenge is ONLY for system sellers of which I am not.
    200,000 spins 10 times and the method must be supplied to this person in advance. lol.
    Smart move isn't it ? For his measly 30k he gets the ability to make that 100 fold. Nice.
    Sure seems easier than doing the work, I agree.
     
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  7. Luckyfella

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    How many times you showed that you didn't read? Or you fail to comprehend what you read?
     

  8. Median Joe

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    Not a very convincing answer Turbo. If I had the winning method you claim you have and wasn't selling the system (and I agree, I wouldn't need to), I would tell him I was just so that I could take the challenge. If he wanted proof I was a seller it would be simple to set up a fake website advertising it. It would just be so easy to make the 30k I wouldn't be able to resist it. And it's not only the money; you're clearly here to make a name for yourself and prove all the mathboyz wrong (and maybe you're sincerely trying to help people too), and yet you pass up this chance of doing just that.

    Nah, I don't buy it.
     
  9. Median Joe

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    Nope, I read it all right. I don't buy the excuses I knew Turbo was going to make.
     
  10. 6th-sense

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    this is going to go around in circles again....absolutely no point Turbo....you can lead a horse to water but can,t make it drink....

    did mj say he plays ds?.....such a naysayer wouldn,t play at all ...may as well throw his bankroll to a needy charity...

    players don,t need to be saved by these mathsboys....when they cant save themselves
     
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  11. thereddiamanthe

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    If I'd like to cash in on my system in advance I wouldn;t be that stupid to do it for $30.000; why would I.
    Might as well cash in $10 for a golden bar to prove its weight.=, same thing.

    Besides putting the guy on the spot .. running the risk of him publishing the system invalidating his bullshit challenge & thus changing the roulette (Thorp) vs taking his challenge down quietly & go cashing in in the casinos -- a no-brainer from him, until I put him on the spot to break himself by publicly admitting his bs ..
     
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    I think you need to re-label the variable as 'current performers' or 'late current performers' ← 1st appearance start betting'. There's too much baggage on the 'hot' numbers .. & those won't miss an opportunity to use it in their favor .. as they have less & less to hang on.
     
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    Classis reverse-psychology selling trick .. why would I offer 100.000s if I can pay 30.000 only, & still phrase at my own advantage. & you guys are actually 'buying' into his challenge. Can't believe you're using that as a weapon.
     
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  14. Median Joe

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    You clearly didn't read his terms. :rolleyes:

    It's simple. Nobody will take the challenge because they know their system doesn't work.
     
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  15. Median Joe

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    I agree. "Here we go again"... indeed.
     
  16. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's the best honest answer I could give.

    I understand 30k seems like a large amount, it isn't. I don't even think Saint Sir No One would play a bias wheel
    for a that small amount in profit. But I should pretend to be a scammer and pretend to sell something to make 30k ?

    You don't have to, it's not for sale. It's in my posts.

    Why not a million $ or 10 million ?
    I had this conundrum with a friend of mine over Thanksgiving - we have a friendly bet going and I'm pretty
    sure I'm right... it's a silly bet of $20.00. Not here or there and it's for fun.
    So he said "If you're so sure, let's make it $100" and then "If you're so sure, make it $1,000"
    So you see - there is a point where you drop the bet, much like poker if you have a full house
    and the other person goes all in. You might fold, many do.
    The person on that site is putting up 30k which is not much at all in all honesty.
    Why not "all in ?" Why not every penny he has... liquidate his assets and put it all on the line ?
    Because he's no doubt smart and it's a safe bet to leave the door open for the possibility of
    being wrong. I don't blame the guy - his opponents are scammer system sellers who can't back
    up what they say, so good for him. 30k is sufficient to do that with - scammers are desperate people.

    Here's an analogy then -
    I could offer 100k to anyone who can make and demonstrate a car that runs on pee....
    20 years this challenge has gone on - no takers ? Oh then one day someone comes to me
    with a car that runs on pee... it cost me 100k. I'll make billions on this. I risked nothing.
    It's a nonsense "challenge" as is Steve's on his forum and the Wizards. Anyone with a brain
    can see this, but if you'd rather think I'm too afraid to take the challenge - so be it.
     
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  17. Boz

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    While I certainly don’t speak for Bluejay, I’m betting he would make an exception for someone as notorious as the “Genius”. He doesn’t need the $3K but he would enjoy showing everyone the man is just another system guy with some fancy words and pictures.

    And it would give him the credibility he so desperately seeks for some reason.

    Let’s make it happen!
     
  18. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Then make it a legit "challenge" with zero payoff - contact any of these :
    Cambridge
    MIT
    Harvard
    Princeton
    Stanford
    Oxford
    Oh no, your website challenge is the real proof I guess.

    I'm pretty sure they don't put up challenges and would love to explore
    a way that makes random independent outcomes predictable.... I bet they would.
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Here we go again. Turbo's cherry picking the top numbers and spin samples. :rolleyes:

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    Wow, check out the latest results from the system. It won big in only ONE spin!
     
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  20. Boz

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    By credibility I was talking about the Turbo dude obviously.
     

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