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TurboGenius Here we go again

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Active Member

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    Not bad for just over 24 hours. 80 replies of basically nothing
     
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  2. Benas

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    Do favor, specially for you :happy:...
    Such writings about nothing you are really spec :D
     
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  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Jefra,

    It' called luck/variance.

    Do you believe that it's something else? Do you believe that it's Turbo's horse racing system working for you?

    If you can, please explain how your bet selection was made and how you played during this session.
     
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  4. Michael Bluejay

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    If someone insisted to you passionately that the weather is determined by an invisible transgender leprechaun who lives on the far side of the moon, you'd just nod and go "uh-huh". You wouldn't try to argue. You'd know that the other person doesn't inhabit reality and that it's impossible to persuade them otherwise. So I generally don't argue with system sellers in a public forum.

    But, I did write what I consider the best article that debunks betting systems:

    https://easy.vegas/gambling/betting-systems

    While it has no hope of convincing the leprechaun-inclined, I think it could convince those who are on the fence. It also provides tools and ammunition for those who *do* want to argue against betting systems.

    I'll repeat just one bit of the article here: Those who claim they have a winning system have never run a computer sim to test it (because they can't, because they don't know how). They could bother to learn, or simply hire someone else to do it, but they never do either. (And yes, the article also squarely addresses objections to computer sims. Our system champion here will likely argue against sims without showing any evidence that he actually read the article which directly addresses his arguments.)
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    YAWN> YAWN> YAWN>


    THe same old rhetoric . What else.
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There are new discoveries each and every day - be it in science, maths, medicine - you name it.
    But suddenly - there is no argument when it comes to random... supposedly ALL has been tested, all
    has been debunked, all has been proven. "Sorry, there's nothing else.. we've reached the end of the road"
    Nothing in this world of reality works that way. If it did we would have nothing that we have today.
    Safe to say we would be in a cave throwing rocks at our enemies and spinning twigs on a log to make fire.
    I bet even then there were people who said "You're wasting your time...everyone who has tried to make
    fire has failed !!" Or Saint Sir Anyone who preaches that "The greatest minds" have never found the answer.
    Fair enough - Full stop !!! It's never been done... no sense to try anything else... too many pockets....
    Suddenly random has become the 1 thing in the history of humanity that can't be defeated. Nothing
    else, just "random".... stop wasting your time folks...

    For crying out loud - I researched a case where a mother who had given birth to children had them
    tested and the DNA proved the children were not hers. Yes, you read that right - not the father being
    wrong.. the mother who carried and delivered them was not the mother. As a matter of fact, the actual
    mother of the children was the woman's sister who didn't exist. Their aunt who didn't exist was their mother.
    Sure your leprechaun example sounds like rubbish, but so does my story - there are 2 confirmed cases of
    my story actually happening but it still sounds like a load of nonsense. It took science to finally discover
    how this happened and prove it and now we understand how this can happen.
    So fine - someone says they can beat random sounds like nonsense to you. Fair enough.
    Why bother to research it more ? Nah.
     
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  7. Michael Bluejay

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    You're putting words in my mouth. What I *actually* said was the exact opposite: You absolutely *should* test your theories, by bothering to learn how to write a computer program (or hiring someone to do so).

    But you won't. No one who supposedly believes so passionately that their discovery must be studied, will actually properly study it.
     

  8. eugene

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    Here's the thing though Turbo, they couldn't make it because in their tiny mind, they couldn't conceive it and therefore that means nobody else could make it as well. And you get accused of having an ego like a barn ROFLMAO!! :D

    I bet they feel all nice and cosy in that little sheep pen over there all huddled together. Never mind eh!;)
     
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  9. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Indeed. I've only been doing this for 40 years now. Exactly 40 to be honest.
    I've never studied or tested anything.........nope. Ugh. Not millions of spins, nope.
    No countless hours in casinos, nope. No simulators and actual spins, rng spins, nope.
    Just one of those ignorant fools who has crazy ideas and posts them.... no clue what
    they mean. That whole 1:16 on a 1:38 for 1,000 spins just happened with good 'ol fashioned Luck.
    +8 standard deviation results, just luck.
    You're kidding me right ?
     
  10. Michael Bluejay

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    I'm not kidding. I don't believe you've actually coded a computer simulation, because if you had, you'd see that your system fails. Also, because system believers are generally the kind of people who don't know how to program computers, and are either unable or unwilling to learn.
     
  11. TurboGenius

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    Wow.
    Should I link to all the systems I wrote code for that are published online ? lol.
    Never mind. I leave you to your opinion. +8 Std Dev. was all luck. On to the next idea. Shame.
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    Thus BVluejay never spent one hour inside a casino .
     
  13. Median Joe

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    Turbo, do you mean all the systems you had on your old web site? You coded all those in RX?
     
  14. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Not all, just a few of those - back in the VIP Lounge days.
     

  15. Rinad

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    coding is way over rated . look at suposely is real "proven data" regarding covid 19 !!! both sides said "it has been proven by doctors"that masks work ! yet the other side will said the very same thing !
    like living in a mental institution is how I feel at time.
    there are systems proven to work that have been coded , yet you would think millions would run to casinos and play those.
    I said it before and will keep on saying it til I take my last breath, to those who dont believe No Proof Will Ever B Enough !!!
    the process of "performing " as system or "aplying" it Is the Gold in itself , the how to do it you have to learn yourself.
    so even if someone code a system how in the world would anyone know if it has been done right unless you have the experience and knowledge required to verify such a coding ?
    plus who needs a million spins , really ?
    what about variables that only exist in "real play" and not computer simulations ?
    again it will never be enough for those who still think the world may be flat.
    if anyone really believe , in all honestly that systems dont work, what in the world are you doing here ???
    God bless,
    Rinad
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    If you reach your win goal between 3 and 8 spins the system is excellent . No martingale either .
     
  17. Michael Bluejay

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    Absolutely. I don't believe you know a single programming language. Better yet, post some of your code.
     
  18. Ozzy

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    The one and only Michael Toronto Bluejay, welcome. I'm sure Boz, will soon roll out the red carpet for you LMFAO !
     
  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    *sigh*

    You don't know me very well, which is understandable but not an excuse for being ignorant.
    Also, I'm not a monkey to perform for you. But that said -

    *sigh*

    Apology accepted....not really.
     
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  20. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I can see why.
     

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