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Roulette How do you handle the psychological part when you're gambling?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RoulleteBoy, Apr 16, 2022.

  1. RoulleteBoy

    RoulleteBoy New Member

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    Hello folks!

    I have a little more than a year gambling with the roulette, more losses than winning, but having periods of very good benefits that finally I loses again.

    How do you deal to run and go when you are in the middle of everything winning a good amount?

    Thank you for your responses and good luck!
     
  2. TwoUp

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    Well I rely on math to tell me what is a reasonable win within the typical standard deviation and number of bets made. I never want to have the house edge corrode away my session bankroll, by grinding type play and I also want to survive some amount of negative variance and have a high probability of locking in a session win vs a loss. This typically means reducing the profit target to increase reliability.

    But when you have a reliable method you know exactly how it behaves and when it fails you have planned for it. This provides immense confidence.

    I use math to understand how often my method will fail and exactly how much that loss will be. I design my gambling methods to have a high probability of success vs loss, at least 1 in a million event (which sounds a lot but events have a way of appearing even when something is rare, 99.9% certain is guaranteed to fail, 99.9999 1 in a million will still fail).

    Why do I do this? Well if your session win rate vs session loss rate is large enough like 60 to 1 or better then you can compound the bankroll at least 3 times, take profit, split into primary and reserve bankrolls and slowly but steadily continue to take profit whilst increasing the reserve bankrolls and the unit size. This makes the session risk a smaller and smaller percentage of the overall bankroll so your risk gets smaller and smaller. When a session loss does happen it is 100% planned for and merely a minor setback because you're always repeating the process to build reserves, and can use one of the many reserve bankrolls to replace the lost one very quickly.

    Those are the basic principles I use for resilience, longevity and growth. Win vs loss rate and compounding is the secret, work out a method that has a low session loss rate vs win rate and the casino can't really catch you as you're paying the dues from compounded profits and have long banked your initial risk plus profits.

    Insurance companies do the same, they have premiums coming in that they compound in the market and then pay the claims using the profits, hence the delay tactics from time of session win (premium in) to session loss event (claim payout). Apply the same logic to gambling and it's just a money pump.

    I don't mean to trivialise it, it's not easy and takes a lot of thought but a methodical approach is the rock for me, and I won't gamble until I know the approach is solid and it's boring as hell, hence no thrills to be had.

    Anyway good luck on your journey.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No way. You are just pretending. I'll bet you have never been in a casino.
     
  4. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Whatever you want to believe useless old man if it makes you feel better about pitiful self.

    Just goes to show how bad your betting instincts are.
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    LOL, well you told me. I keep my money at Fort Knox. I let the government keep a few bars for themselves there too. HAHAHAHA, LOL. These clowns actually think that this will work. It's so predictable. The mathZombies always act the same.
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

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    We are dealing here with a key board jockey who has no casino experience .
     
  7. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    You two are the childish fool keyboard jokeys.
     
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  8. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If it quacks like a duck it is a duck. Not too difficult to spot a key board jockey.
     
  9. TwoUp

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    You really want that to be true don't you?

    You see this is where math provides answers. When you understand the sequences that cause both a win and a loss event it is easy to calculate those probabilities and how often they can occur as a worst case to a desired confidence level.

    When you then look at the total sequence of failure events that it would take to prevent full recovery and reaching a new session high and instead result in a session loss then one understands precisely how likely that event is to fractions of a percent. The math provides very useful answers.

    I aim for 9 nines of reliability (1 in a billion) in terms of back to back back failures, which typically results in around 1 in a million overall for a full recovery after a session from hell freak loss sequence but it can be less depending on the specific casino game and method being used.

    Engineering your methods for reliability is critical, but the clowns don't really have much to say as this is all foreign with their gypsy tea leaves and mystic randomness reading. They don't talk of such advanced concepts as resilience, growth, reserve bankrolls, it's all absent in their world view because they don't do it and don't know how to do it.

    Given that one plays many coups in a session the chance of a session loss is still very low but never ever zero, but sufficient to compound winnings and triple a bankroll, rinse and repeat over and over again steady as she goes building reserves and improving resilience. Every coup played brings you statistically closer to a failure, and its unavoidable even with large numbers the probability of witnessing a failure steadily increases so one has to plan for it as I've mentioned.

    It's not rocket science but it's the kind of thing that the likes of Gizmotron and Nathan Detroit have no clue about because they don't understand math and don't have a reliable method. In fact they have very little of substance to offer, but they will funnel suckers into their program through this forum and take their money, and then call everyone else clueless pretenders.

    I could go on about using your bankroll like a pension fund and paying a wage win or lose but again this is just too much for the old Gizmotron and Nathan Detroit, it's many steps beyond where they are stuck playing tiddly winks.
     
  10. TwoUp

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    The value you add to the world and this forum is difficult to underestimate.
     
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  11. gizmotron

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    The moron proves how smart he really is. I'm so glad that you set out to school us. You are so amateur. Hahaha, yes, you should keep gambling and get real rich.
     
  12. TwoUp

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    So what's your argument? What do you disagree with what I've written? All of it? Great.

    Surely an "expert" such as yourself can tear apart everything I've written and show the logical flaws for everyone to learn something from the great Jizzatron.

    But instead you resort to pithy insults and meaningless remarks. Where's your substance? Go on tear it all down, dissect it and show everyone a better way to achieving resilience and growth.
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm not going to help you. You are for throwing under the bus. Beggars like you should only be identified and ridiculed. You could not have done a more perfect job of illustrating gambler's fallacy. Even that is tooo kind of treatment. You do not deserve helping.
     
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  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You keep saying making money off of people. I'm starting to think it is you that is scamming people. What are you selling. Can you PM people yet? Look out for this math whore. He's probably recruiting.
     

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    A cop out from a spent old man who has no value to add to the forum but only here to prey on the gullible by funneling to his paid program of reading randomness nonsense.

    I don't need any helping, it's incredible you actually think that given you haven't brought ANYTHING to the table other than insults and hand waving.
     
  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There is no paid program. You are so brave that you have to make up crimes that displease you in your imagination. It's called gaslighting. It's only making you look bad. Keep it up. Your credibility is reaching down into the signed values.
     
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    The desperate attempt by a known scammer who has ripped off other members and attempts to taint everyone else. There has been plenty written on here about you charging people and not giving refunds for a shitty system that doesnt work.

    No I don't have any private message rights and I don't have anything to sell. I'm not a dodgy fucker like you.
     
  18. TwoUp

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    The truth isn't gaslighting. You're a phoney scammer.
     
  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You are so smart, let's see if you can get this segment of a bitwise operation in an algorithm I wrote back in 2002.

    Code:
    split cryptThisText by comma
      put "" into cipherText
      put 1 into ic
      put 1 into ix
      local strB1, strB2
      put iVector into strV
      put char 1 to 4 of strV into strB1
      put char 5 to 8 of strV into strB2
      repeat while ic <= textCryptlength
        put (cryptThisText[ix + 3]) + ((cryptThisText[ix + 2]) * 256) + ((cryptThisText[ix + 1]) * 65536) + ((cryptThisText[ix]) * 16777216) bitAnd 4294967295 into xL
        put (cryptThisText[ix + 7]) + ((cryptThisText[ix + 6]) * 256) + ((cryptThisText[ix + 5]) * 65536) + ((cryptThisText[ix + 4]) * 16777216) bitAnd 4294967295 into xR
        repeat for each element dwnSpt in rkoR
          put xL bitXor bfP3[dwnSpt] into xL
          put ((xL bitAnd 4278190080) / 16777216)  bitAnd 255 into a
          put ((xL bitAnd 16711680) / 65536) into b
          put ((xL bitAnd 65280) / 256) into c
          put (xL bitAnd 255) into d
          put (((  ((S1[a + 1] + S2[b + 1]) mod 4294967296) bitXor S3[c + 1]  ) + S4[d + 1] ) mod 4294967296) bitXor xR into xR
          put xL into temp
          put xR into xL
          put temp into xR
        end repeat
        put xL into temp
        put xR into xL
        put temp into xR
        put xR bitXor bfP3[2] into xR
        put xL bitXor bfP3[1] into xL
    
    
     
  20. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    prove it troll
     

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