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Roulette How I play Roulette

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mark V, May 13, 2017.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Some of us have done it with real money.
     
  2. TurboGenius

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    Not what I'm doing. And I do it with real money too - you keep forgetting that, but I can understand why - it's impossible to accept something works when "nothing can work".
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Turbo,

    The other guy playing roulette was up several times what you were in case you didn't notice.
     
  4. TurboGenius

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    He was, I explained how that's entirely possible to do.
    Then again there were 96 other people below me in the top 100 too that didn't do better than I did. (but those aren't relevant I suppose). It won't kill you to give me some credit lol.
     
  5. TurboGenius

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    I'll tell you what - as I said I'm going to post actual results (from yes - a real casino) and I'll also post results starting July 1 from Golden Nugget online (the only legal - in NJ - online casino with a live dealer/wheel) and you can not give me credit then either lol. Either way it won't matter I suppose, but it's going to be a blast !!!!
     
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    No one else could be arsed, mate.

    I think I'll open a pretend bottle of Mumm Brut Cremant now... Fuck that I'll open a real one. :)
     
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    This is wrong. The chances of a third repeat is 50%.

    This is stupid because the first point is wrong.
     
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  8. gizmotron

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    Bombus is correct. This chart of 150 proves it:

    Code:
    | A B C | 1 2 3 |  | B  R | L  H | O  E | -- ## -- Line
    |   X   |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 18 --  1
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 --  2
    |     X | X     |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 31 --  3
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 --  4
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 34 --  5
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 --  6
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 --  7
    |   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 --  8
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 --  9
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 -- 10
    |     X | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 28 -- 11
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 12
    |     X |     X |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 33 -- 13
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 14
    |     X | X     |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 31 -- 15
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  8 -- 16
    |---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 17
    |   X   |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 18 -- 18
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 19
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 -- 20
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 21
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 27 -- 22
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 23
    | X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  1 -- 24
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  8 -- 25
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 26
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 27
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 28
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 11 -- 29
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 30
    |   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 -- 31
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 11 -- 32
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 33
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 34
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 26 -- 35
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 36
    |   X   |     X |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 15 -- 37
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 34 -- 38
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 -- 39
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 40
    |   X   |     X |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 24 -- 41
    |   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 -- 42
    |     X | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 28 -- 43
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | --  4 -- 44
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 45
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 11 -- 46
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 47
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 48
    | X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  1 -- 49
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  8 -- 50
    |---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 51
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 20 -- 52
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | --  4 -- 53
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 54
    |   X   | X     |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 16 -- 55
    |---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 56
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 -- 57
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 35 -- 58
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | --  4 -- 59
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 60
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 -- 61
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 62
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 35 -- 63
    |   X   |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 21 -- 64
    |---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 65
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 66
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 67
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 68
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 69
    |   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 70
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 71
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 72
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 -- 73
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 74
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 34 -- 75
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 76
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 77
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 78
    |   X   |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 21 -- 79
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 80
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 81
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 -- 82
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  8 -- 83
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 20 -- 84
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 85
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 86
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 87
    |   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 -- 88
    |---------------------------------------|  -  0 -- 89
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 90
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 91
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 -- 92
    |   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 -- 93
    | X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  7 -- 94
    |     X |     X |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 33 -- 95
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 96
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 97
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 98
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 99
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 100
    |     X | X     |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 31 -- 101
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  8 -- 102
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 20 -- 103
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 34 -- 104
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 -- 105
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 106
    |   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 -- 107
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 108
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 27 -- 109
    | X     |   X   |  |    X | X    | X    | --  5 -- 110
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 34 -- 111
    |     X |     X |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 33 -- 112
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 35 -- 113
    |   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 -- 114
    |     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 -- 115
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 -- 116
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 27 -- 117
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 118
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 27 -- 119
    |     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 120
    | X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 121
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 27 -- 122
    | X     |   X   |  |    X | X    | X    | --  5 -- 123
    |     X |     X |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 33 -- 124
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 125
    |   X   |     X |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 15 -- 126
    |---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 127
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 11 -- 128
    | X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | --  4 -- 129
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 130
    |   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 131
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 132
    |   X   |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 21 -- 133
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 134
    |   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 -- 135
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 136
    |   X   | X     |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 16 -- 137
    |   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 138
    |   X   |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 20 -- 139
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 -- 140
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 141
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 142
    |   X   | X     |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 16 -- 143
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 144
    |   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 145
    | X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  8 -- 146
    |     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 -- 147
    | X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 148
    |     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 149
    |   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 -- 150
    The black & red, odd & even, and the high & low all balance out near 50% / 50%.

    It never comes even close to 11.5 %.

    PS, you should like this snowblower. It's basic probability.

    "Probability never tells you when a win streak will start or how long it will last."
     
  9. gizmotron

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    I like the sound of crickets. You are my favorite cricket. You have always been the best crash test dummy for system players that the world has ever seen. You're even so absorbed in yourself, because of a computer algorithm that has you on a magic carpet ride, that you actually want recognition for it. There are no crickets for that show. Way to go. Everyone is watching you now.

    You really are missing out on your grandness potential. Go into a casino, make a few millions, and then publish your Big-Top Pee-wee! trick. You would deserve and win the Nobel Prize for that. But I like your great achievement so far anyway. You have a riveted audience here in the peanut gallery. Why leave that?
     
  10. TurboGenius

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    lol. There's a computer algorithm with a live wheel and live dealer ? Do tell.
    Now I'm curious. This isn't reality and we are all programs running on some alien computer ?
    Don't laugh - Lots of well known big names in science are now coming out to say that they
    believe it's completely possible that we are actually in a sim and this isn't real.
    In that case - SHIT. Even live spins are really RNG ! No wonder my Holy Grail works on both
    equally.
    Elon Musk, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Steven Hawking are nothing to laugh at - all great minds.
    So if that's the case - Live spins ARE rng. Go figure. (grins). You're ok in my book Gizmo.

     
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    This universe must be the Turbo world of discipline.
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    I'm up $140,500.00 this week Giz already and it's only 2 days in. Wowsers.
    I know ! Everybody wins, it doesn't mean anything lol. There's so many people at the top that I don't know how I did it.
    Man - must be luck. Oh wait, it's not real money - it's rigged.
    You guys are great.
     
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    There's a rock climbing route at Lover's Leap near Lake Tahoe named Craven Image. It's the highest part of the face at 600 ft straight up. Yet it's only a class 5.6 or 5.7, I don't remember. Two climbers can blow it out in under three hours. It's all there. The reason it is named what it is, is that it is the highest part of the best climbing areas there. I did it without bothering to read the guide book on the route. It was that easy. Although it was the highest achievement, it was a great disappointment compared to other routes there that are considered in the top 50 climbs of North America.

    Your achievement is a great disappointment. Being rescued by a computer algorithm is like saying that you climbed the Matterhorn at Disneyland.

    When are you going to see that this crap at the Parx casino is a suckers game?
     
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    Show me that it's fixed. Thanks. After all, there are thousands of players and only a top 100 every week. (and of those being in the top 10, or top 5 is REALLY hard to do..... but ok - it's all rigged just for me. "Yayy".

    It's also completely different math than playing at a live wheel. I mean on the site the odds of a number showing are 37:1 - and you get paid 35:1. While at the casino it's 37:1 and paid 35:1. And then there's the random, we all know RNG random is NOTHING like actual random... no, it's a whole different tiger....
    So how is it fixed Giz. It's fixed just for me ? lol. The more you laugh about it being all rigged and then it's shown not to be, just makes you look more and more silly. But that's ok with me.
    You should get warmed up for reasons why I win at Golden Nugget as well (might as well get some reasons ready).
    You can't really say much about my winnings at AC or in PA - sure, they are all fixed too. The pitboss saw me and told the dealers to spin my numbers and let me win. It's all a conspiracy !
    Why not spend that energy reading what I wrote and learning how to do this. Or you can point in every direction you can find for the answers to question that you don't even know - waste of time. That's up to you though.
     

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    I really don't care. Get somebody else to give a damn.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    Hands you a participation trophy anyway.
    [​IMG]

    Jeez, I should have spent another 2 minutes on that and made it better. lol
    I'll do better next time.
     
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    There, I hate doing sloppy work.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I have to agree with Turbo here. If it is "fixed", then try this out.....get 10 different players from the board here.

    Minimum of 8 should be in profit after "X" number of spins(?) .....and I dont mean $50. In other words, try and LOSE.

    If almost everyone gets their "easy" wins day in and day out, you should be ahead regardless(?) You are into AP?

    It should not be an issue. Play anything your heart desires, after all, you should still get your "easy" wins, correct?

    I would agree with you guys if MORE players were getting "easy winning days" in order for the site to LURE YOU IN but in terms of percent, it doesn't seem that way(?) I said it before, it cant be much of a coincidence that the guy who knows a ton (mock if you will) and studies and studies, is way ahead. I dont see that as a coincidence.

    As I said regarding C. Casino though, those are REAL spins (00 wheel), Turbo, you should not have an issue winning there?? To me, thats a REAL TEST.

    Ken
     
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    Well said
     
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    I concur. As I mentioned previously, no point in having a leaderboard if the game's fixed so that everyone is a winner. But I take Sir Anyone's point that the real test is with real money, not least because many people play differently with fun money or at home on the kitchen table. A losing run can lead to making wild bets and chasing losses.
     

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