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Roulette How I play Roulette

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mark V, May 13, 2017.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Agreed. Discipline is key - yet at least 99% of players either don't have it or it fails at the worst time.
    Even me. It's not easy to let something play out when your brain is saying "try this to do that", etc.
    It's terrible, our own lack of discipline just adds to the difficulty in winning.
     
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    The leader board at the fake casino is a sales gimmick. They need people to feel good about winning and to attract others too.
     
  3. Mark V

    Mark V Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    I really have nothing to prove to you or anyone here. My intent is to just share and hopefully help others who have some interest in gambling do better and hopefully win more than lose.

    I am not here to prove any point, to beat some dead horse, or to win a popularity contest.

    What works for you in the casino often will only WORK FOR YOU in the casino, and what others do often ONLY WORKS FOR THEM.

    Yes, there are very stupid people on the Internet and in the casinos who think they are 'all that"
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    Believe what you want; but always ask yourself if your beliefs are serving you well.
     
  4. Mark V

    Mark V Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    With your chart, I win 22 times lose 20 with the way I play. I would have disqualified the High low, and played he even odd as well.

    However, sometimes I just play columns, overtimes Streets, and every now and then corners.

    Everyone plays differently, everyone is doing their own thing. What works for you often won't work for the next person, and what works for you today often fails tomorrow.

    Those who thrive here in Vegas have just a few guidelines:

    Play when you are winning;
    stop playing when you are losing (move on to a different table or casino);
    Always ask what the casino will give you for your play;

    Most people who thrive tend to stick with low volatility games and betting methods, though there are a few I know who go with high volatility games and methods and they got the bankroll to survive the swings.

    There is no Holy Grail, perfect system of play, or methods that always win. Most gambling advice is worthless, as are most books on gambling.
    If you can win at a particular game - then good for you! Play that game.
    If you lose at a particular game - then find another game or go swimming!

    Games of chance can become terribly streaky, and terribly non-streaky too. Its a pendulum that goes back and forth, swinging. Some are good at seeing the swings, others not so good, and sometimes the game is hard to determine what is streak or non-streak it is in.

    I really don't care what others here or in the casinos think of me, my methods, or of anything. If what you are doing is winning, then keep doing it. If what you are doing is losing, then do something different!

    There is advantage play, sometimes..... never will you find advantage play all the time.

    Everyone has a different casino plan, and different needs. I meet with people all the time to help them develop a casino play plan that fits their abilities and needs. Everyone is different, and no two people really play the same.

    Lastly, I have no use for kitchen table gamblers. Either you are in the casinos or not.

    If you want to meet with me here in Vegas and talk, I am open for that. If you want me to help you with a gambling plan, a play method that you can use to gain something from the casinos, maximize your wins and limit your losses - then contact me.
     
  5. TurboGenius

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    Wow, I did lots of quote posting in this one folks.

    Debunked a while ago - were you reading ?
    That site has NO actual casino games where people can gamble with real money. It's for fun (for others it's for testing ideas perhaps) Regardless - they have NO MOTIVE whatsoever to make anyone falsely win or falsely lose - they gain nothing by someone winning or losing. Once you factor that in, you can tell it's a fair game site.
    Now - if you believe they picked "ME" to win as I have been doing because there is some strange motive that no one knows about, that's up to you - come back to reality.
    If you believe "it's fixed and everyone win" you are wrong - it's actually very hard to win. Why so ? If they let you win then you would win regardless of how silly you picked your bet locations. Understand ?

    Sorry but this doesn't make sense. You are implying that the game itself (or casino, or table or whatever you're gambling on in the casino) KNOWS it's you and not someone else.
    This is basic math isn't it ?
    Player A) wins 10,000.00 while player B) plays the same way and loses 12,000.00. Combined, their results over time will be negative at the house edge (or close). To think that "I" use something that works - but it won't work for you - means..... what I'm using DOESN'T work. The way to win works no matter who is playing, trust me. (you won't)

    And this also doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's a game of MATH - every game is the casino is controlled by math. Odds, probability, etc etc. There is no such thing as moving to another table and your luck will magically change for the better. It's nonsense and I don't know how you could believe this.
    A different casino ? A different table ? A different wheel ? You surely understand that it is the exact same math and game no matter how you chop your sessions and locations up into whatever you want.
    Even people on the forum who bicker with me will agree that playing 10 sessions of 300 spins each will give you the exact same results as betting 3,000 spins straight - or broken up by table, casino, wheel, etc. It's the same math.
    2+2 being 4 means you lose ? Then I'm sorry to tell you that down the pit at the other table......2+2=4.
    That casino across town ? Oh wait for it.... nevermind.

    You're right there - almost all players lose over time. Because they follow bad advice from people who don't know how to win (or think they do). I'm sure if someone needs to be told "bring this much", "play this game", "play at that casino.....on Wednesday and not Sunday".... then they need more help than what someone could give them.

    Again - why would anyone ? You started this thread with a idea - "A betting condition is triggered when two occurrences of one of the above bets happens in sequence; such as two reds in a row, or two odd number or two high number. When such a condition occurs, you make a bet on the opposite of that condition"
    So if you truly believe this is a sensible way to play then you're advice and suggestions "in person" to someone - mixed in with telling them to change tables and casinos when you're losing is in no way going to produce your claims of gaining "anything" from any casino, maximize wins and certainly won't limit losses.
    I'm really not trying to be an ass but you'll read what I wrote and probably just assume I'm being an ass.
    It's not a popularity contest here but people will listen to others when they make sense and explain things.
    Not everyone is a noob to gambling and thinks that Red, Red means the wheel is going to produce Black now.
    That is something that most people would have worked out during their first month of looking into systems and how to bet.
     
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    As a gambler you either know something or you don't know something.

    Forget about beliefs for roulette. You should take that stuff to church.
     
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  7. TurboGenius

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    This is going to be the only thing I think about now when I hear people switching tables
    or casinos to win if they are losing lol. Great.....
     

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    I had actually typed that almost exactly as you did lol - that's just damn strange. I backspaced it though.
    I was going to preach (see what I did there ?) about thinking any kind of "belief" is going to help or hurt you
    against math.
     
  9. Mark V

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  10. TurboGenius

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    Enough said.
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Mark,

    When are we going to meet up? I'm ready to see the global effect.
     
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    A quick note regarding gambling discipline and progressions.
    It really has no meaning to me. Either you have an edge or you're just gambling. As an AP, discipline has no effect on my betting. The human element is removed from the progression/bankroll management. Such discipline is way over rated and is all too often used as an excuse for losing at gambling.
     
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  13. Mark V

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    Yeah, discipline is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for winning, contrary to what many gamblers tell you. According to them, being able to predict accurately where the ball will land is secondary to discipline. Maybe that's because, like most system players, they don't really believe that they have an edge (and they're correct) so any system is as good as any other, and there are no "better" ways to play. Since they have nothing of substance, the only thing left is the psychological aspect, so this stands in for the edge and has a correspondingly high importance; if they can control themselves (they think), then all will be well, as in Dostoyevsky's "The Gambler".

    On the other hand, AP's know they have the edge, and understand WHY, so discipline is largely irrelevant. You don't need discipline to not put your hand on a hot stove because you know the consequences, whereas system players don't know the difference between the stove and the cool box, lol.
     

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    Lets not forget.....switching chip color. (lol)

    Ken
     
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    Great analogy!
     
  17. TurboGenius

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    That's entirely not true.
    Discipline is key to anyone - even AP players.
    I think people get the false impression that being a AP player means you can't lose.
    If you aren't disciplined in what you do and how you do it - you'll lose. I don't care what advantage
    you have or think you have.
    You could bet more than you should - you could risk doing something because you might be in a rush -
    there's plenty of other examples. If you aren't disciplined in what you do and how - it won't matter what
    kind of edge you have.

    It's like saying a golfer is #1 in the world - they have experience, the best clubs and rank the best out of everyone.
    Do you think with these advantages over other players that they don't need to be disciplined in how they play ?
    It's no different - you still won't if you don't stick with your "plan". If you go off course and take extra risk (Yes readers - AP doesn't mean you never lose) then you'll lose.
    Just think for a moment that you found that perfect wheel and you're ready to exploit it.
    You have a few drinks, then some more - if you're not disciplined then you are going to lose regardless of
    that amazing perfect bias.
    That's called personal discipline and being a AP you HAVE to have it to win.
    The "human element" is never removed and you know that.
     
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    A very interesting discussion! How As associated the Grail with the Global theory?And how to understand that the time has come and need to go to play?I'm playing recently, but it seems to me that math and roulette is not compatible things"! But global theory is very interesting!! Is the Torsion fields may also relate to the Global theory?
     
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    I'll save you a trip - "When red shows up twice in a row bet Black".
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    I think for each person there is a moment of luck. BUT it passes, and then you need to get up from the table and leave.And that's just sensible.You can call it discipline.But here connects the human factor.You want to win more.And you all lose. It's just a game.Oh, if all could get when you need from the table The casino would have lost!)))))
     
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