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Craps How many times have we all heard this line of BS

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by superrick, May 10, 2015.

  1. TSC

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    You guys can all END this war on whether dice stay on axis or not. Lets get Howard and the video team at MY craps pit, since we know it's a Legal, well built, Pro table and film 5-10 of his rolls after he warms up for 5 minutes.

    We won't show him on the video. If HE is regarded as The Babe Ruth of Craps, the sweetest toss for PARR, lets use him. Just Howard, me and the Film guy who owns a studio on Charleston I can hire to get to film. We can then have the film guy slow it down and we can see for ourselves.

    This will shut one of the Camps up. Howard leaves in less than 2 weeks so we have to act fast. Snake Eyes, you and Koi can come to as a Witness. Nor Harley nor Superrick will be there. They will have to Trust me and the Camera guy. We will give the exact rolls on these boards 5 minutes after we do this so no one can say the film was altered. We will turn it to a BBQ.

    Lets DO This!!! Quite Frankly its up to Howard now. If he declines something like this, IMHO its an admission of guilt

    TSC/VDC
     
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  2. Pressit

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    Nice offering, but you'll need a rock solid definition of the meaning of what is an "on-axis" toss, and one that all parties can agree upon. If not, you'll just end up with a he say, she say situation. Will Howard be shooting from SO or SR1 or 2?
     
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  3. DeMango

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    Random is 44.4%. End result. Who cares if the dice bounce off the Eiffel Tower? Hard 8 is hard eight is on axis with the V3 or Hardways set.

    I think someone has watched too many Home Depot commercials!
     
  4. Harley

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    Not quite sure, but most times given an empty table Howard will gravitate to SO or SL1.5 (being Left-handed) ... Howard can toss from anywhere on the table so the camera guy will need to be prepared to move the lighting until Howard adjusts to the table.
     
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  5. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    Has anyone noticed that Mr. AK47 and Heavy went away, after I busted their little story on the 9 million win. What the hell Mr. AK47 doesn't have anything to say. He's not calling us name anymore.
    Now the funny part about Mr. AK47 the suck puppet is that he writes that I need med's! But I can beat him at his sick game of lying about Harley and myself.

    For someone that has never met us, that is if he's not Heavy and in fact is the madprofessor this pathological liar needs ot get a life. There is nothing that this guy has written that is true.

    I take great offense with the above lie about Harley, I happen to belong to the Brain Injury Association of America and have for years. I've been to many meetings because my daughter had a major brain injury and recently passed away after a 21 year fight to recover from that injury.
    This lie may have been direct at me, instead of Harley, trying to hurt me, with a lie that some so-called friends knew about my daughter. It just goes to show everybody how low these on-axis schools can go so they can protect their little hobby business of selling nothing but BS.

    There is nothing wrong with Harley and he damn sure doesn't have a brain injury.
    The Madprofessor has used the same line before when I went to Canada he wrote that I was stalking him, now he is writing that I was stalking Heavy, because I stopped in Shreveport to play craps on a cross country trip in our new 2015 Corvette, because we were staying in Fla. For over a month, looking for a second home. Where Howard rock n roller, contacted me, trying to become my new best friend,... once again! I'm sure if I wanted to run into Heavy he would tell me where they were playing here in Vegas. I wouldn't have to stop in Shreveport to try to run into him!

    I guess I was staking him when I stopped in New Mexico too, to play craps at Sana Ana Star casino!
    I'm sure that if any of Heavy's suck puppets saw Harley or myself in any casino around Vegas, Heavy and crew would have had a field day saying we were stalking Heavy! When the truth of the matter is that we play here everyday, they would be stalking us, we are not going out of our way to see a bunch of Bull Shitters trying to get on a roll.

    No,.. we much rather read their little trip reports about their great wins when no one is around to see them.

    The great fiction writer, the madprofessor has tried to portray me as a poor broke pathetic losing craps player that doesn't know what I'm doing. But unfortunately for him I live a good life and can travel and actually post videos of where I've been. I drive high end cars I do not have to rip photos off the internet to make like the photos of the cars are mine. When I go to different casinos that might be of interest to other players I will post the photos I took and post the videos. I'm not ripping them on the internet either!

    Mr AK47 struck a nerve with his lies, the Madprofessor may think he is funny, but he isn't!

    The administrator of this board, lets nothing but lies to be posted without doing a thing about them, to pump up his board, but the real truth is he is running off good posters, so a pathological liar can make sick post about others. He may not see anything wrong with this but I do!
     
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  6. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    when people attack the poster personally it proves without a doubt that they are bankrupt of any cogent debate on a topic. They are like a cornered rat lashing out.

    There is a technique in debate called "fogging",Thats when someone cannot stay on topic because they have no credible response, so instead they try to steer the conversation away from the topic at hand with total nonsense. AK is just fogging the issue. He can only "fog" , he can only call names, he can only insult. A total admission that he is bankrupt of a credible response.

    Its always easier to attack a poster that you dont know personally, rather than defend a debatable topic with cogent facts.

    patrick does it, AK does it. AK and patrick are birds of a feather.
     
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  7. $nakeEye$

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    TO :

    LarryS, SuperRick , Harley, Pressit, TSC , et al : -

    Exactly WHEN and WHERE did THIS or ANY / ALL RELATED threads delve into the " ON-AXIS / OFF-AXIS " baloney -

    To MY knowledge - ALL correspondence deals with " BIASED DICE " bull shit -

    THERE is NO correlation between an " ON-AXIS / OFF - AXIS " toss AND BIASED DICE -

    MOVING right along on this same venue - the ONLY thing that SuperRick " busted " was Harley's " cherry " -

    And - Ricky Dicky - WHY does NOT THE ADMIN of this site take the PROPER action(s) against Harley Horn -

    HE has instigated MORE NON-TRUE / FALSE posts than anyone on this forum -

    YET - EACH AND EVERY time - he is called on his BS posts -

    HE evades the inevitable and YOU come and along and attempt to alter the facts and ALSO evade the issue -

    DO YOU NOT think that intelligent people can see right thru your inept and futile attempts to ignore / evade the obvious ? -

    YOU and HARLEY - do NOTHING - BUT - to excerpt the integrity of this forum - as you have done on OTHERS -

    And from which YOU and your " cronies " have been banned from posting on - due to YOUR habitual slanderous and untruthful remarks -

    And RICK - YOU ARE RIGHT -

    GOOD POSTERS FLED THIS BOARD -

    DUE to BS posted by YOU and Harley -

    The BOTH of YOU are " obsessed " with Heavy, the Mad Professor and ALL OTHERS -

    WHO challenge YOUR unorthodox methodology towards the game of crap !

    Because YOU can NOT have a " decent roll " - the DICE ARE BIASED ! -

    YOUR videos proved the above statement a FALLACY !

    TSC has YOU and HARLEY on HIS speed dial !

    TSC - a word to the ' wise ' -

    DO NOT TEXT Harley and / or SuperRick while at the dinner table with Howard, Koi, Tony myself and our wives -

    " Bad Etiquette " !

    $...eE..$
     

  8. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    what kind of person would "flee" a board. Posts can be skipped, not read, disregarded after being read. Posters can be blocked.

    If someone has the facts, they can wipe the floor with those that disagree

    who are these weak minded people that "flee"

    Honestly isnt that melodramatic??

    If someone is selling or defending snake oil, I can see them "fleeing" when the light of truth is shined on them.

    But just jo blow who comes on to read something about gambling, might find the exchanges interesting (like myself), or unimportant(where they might skip certain threads)

    the threads are clearly titled. People can choose to view them or not.

    there is nothing here that would make a sane or honest person want to "flee"
     
  9. Harley

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    TSC - a word to the ' wise ' ... why would you or any decent human being play with SnakeEyes knowing that at any time he can go into his drunk late nite rants and post your real name (has done several times) or use various forms of defamation without proof as well as twist sideways anything he does hear

    Heavy and MisterAK can not handle the truth !!
     
  10. $nakeEye$

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    POST YOUR PROOF PU$$Y ! - REGARDS " AK47 = Heavy " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    $...eE..$
     
  11. DeMango

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    Why can't we all just get along?
     
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  12. Frank Scoblete

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    I actually prefer that people use their real names.
     
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  13. superrick

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    Frank why wouldn't you, its to your advantage to use your real name to sell your books and what ever else you are selling, but tell that to a card counter. The only guys that are playing in a casino and posting their real names will be the poker players. You don't see the great fiction writer the madprofessor using his real name do you? But you do see Heavy using his real name. Again to sell his school, CD's and what ever else he is selling.

    Book authors all tend to use their real names unless they are writing fiction , then they use a ghost pen name. Some players make their money in the casino playing the games and they do not want the casinos to know who they are, they will play a hit and run type of game, they don't want or need the comps to make money, unlike some of you that write and recommend getting players cards to get the junk that these casinos use to get players to come back and lose their money, if your a local player!
     
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  14. Tabletop

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    Well, I certainly don't have a problem using my real name in the Casinos. ESPECIALLY after my last Outing. I feel like a twelve year Old that Died in a Plane Crash Five Years ago!!!!
     

  15. TSC

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    I'm not getting drawn into a topic that is NOT relative to The Craps game I Play. The people I play with or have dinner with is my choice. We all could debate a lot of things till the day we all die regarding Craps. I have enough worries in life. I don't need an Energy drainer like some of the things I see here. Its bad Ju-Ju... The more one gets involved in these discussions, the more damage I see. I don't want to ever say.. If I had NOT commented on that topic, this would of never happened.....

    S.E.....It was 9:21pm, when I received an Invite text to play Craps the following morning. Bad Etiquette? Maybe... Probably shouldn't be texting at a table with friends during dinner. But dinner was far over and Craps talk was on an hour into it...it was a whole 30 seconds of texting time. I happen to have craps associates/friends on both sides of the fence that I play with, eat with and have over to my house... Camps that Hate what Heavys' about, Camps that don't like LJ group, camps that don't like the Bias Dice Gang. My opinion of these guys are different than others.

    I shoot PARR (what H teaches) and i am pretty decent at it. I shoot LJ (what Joe and Snake teach) and Im really good at it. I shoot my version of (SR's) shot and pretty good at it. I believe thru experience, that the dice are NOT always fair (What SR, Harley and LJ camp teach). Is it a coincidence. I say NO. But what I WONT do is gripe about it. What i do do is SAY, How can I exploit what the casino is OFFERING me for 5 cubs of dice? By charting i see the fours are way past the 6-8 and even with the seven count. Can that be? But I see this a lot. Why does a casino go from a box of serial numbers 1003,1004,1005,1006 to 1892 the next day after we smacked the sh*t out of them for the ATS? They want to put dice in play that favor certain numbers but others won't show? well a good shooter that knows how to read die faces, can use sets to deliver and such we did. Coincidence that they switched to 1892 the next day and no one could do squat? Ok 'H' sorry, but you keep believing and teaching that theory and putting Pics up of defamation of ones character of some in the Camp who teach it. If it was fair the next set would have been 1007..sorry but I agree here with the BDC. Living here in LV for 17 years now, i see this daily. But I'm NOT here to defend the BDC.

    I chart the session and I see what numbers are rolling, shooter to shooter. What numbers are KILL numbers and whats following what. So when its my turn to shoot, i decide if PARR will work, the LJ shot, or my shot. Than i go for it, saying and believing in my skill set. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But a 44/4 pter...a 40 and 34 roll w/ 17 PL winners, a 29, a 24, a few 20's w/ other multiple 4 pt fires, just in last 7 days says it does. I used all combinations of Little Joe, (a shot I think EVERYONE who play craps should use and master, (LittleJoeCraps.com), My revised Shot of SR, and Parr (axispowercraps.com), (HowardRocknRoller.com) to hit these this week. Ive won an ATS for $1250 this week, took a strip prop for a few K this week and that doesn't include the 10 units $750 a session I net using TrendSetterCraps.com Level One/Level5 play. Im not trying to Boast what I've accomplished this week, but to say, lets take this ENERGY to the tables. We all have the same Goal. Win from the Man. The man being the casino's. So lets stop the BS fighting back and forth. Lets have a Group Hug and go to the table and kiss some A$$.
     
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  16. $nakeEye$

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    I concur - this baloney has gotten quite old and is a waste of time and effort to do anything except to let it die and move on to more productive and revenue producing tasks !

    $...eE..$
     
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  17. Harley

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    SnakeEyes - good post !!
    ... and thank you for posting much earlier in the day:p;)

    TSC - good post !!
    ... just FYI, Heavy, Howard and Harley all start with H .... IMO, Your H was not meant to be Harley

    So TSC, I guess we are starting a Biker's gang now - The Bias Dice Gang ... your Biker Mama can wear your jacket and ride with me anytime !!

     
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  18. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    " Rumor " has it that you are returning home to take care of your elderly Mom -

    I Most Sincerely wish you nothing but the best -

    As of late we have had our differences of opinions more than once -

    However - you and I -

    We go back some time - back to the " PARR Forum " -

    I will never forget the intelligence that YOU and WALT expounded and was readily absorbed by me -

    Rick has my phone number - If there is ANY thing - I can do for you -

    Call me - and THAT - is NO BS !

    GodSpeed and God Bless !

    $...eE..$
     
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  19. Pressit

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    Nicely said Snake, and I wish Harley and his mom the very best. Family first, family always.
     
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    Interesting post. I only say that because you live in LV and apparently you are not shy about taking the casino's money, or maybe better phrased, visiting them on a steady basis in an attempt to take their money. I have always thought with LV having @48 casinos, and over 300 tables one could lay out a fairly nice pattern of visits. Can't say as I ever heard of TrendSetterCraps.com Level One/Level5 play. What can you tell me about that. Nice shooting, and I concur with you on everything you said about LJ. IMHO, LJ is the only way to go.
     

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