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Video Poker How to determine a good machine

Discussion in 'Video Poker Forum' started by Dan Paymar, Apr 25, 2015.

  1. Dan Paymar

    Dan Paymar Active Member Founding Member

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    With thousands of video poker machines around, what makes one a "good" machine? You'll hear comments such as "That one just hit a jackpot" or "Those machines stink. No one is hitting anything." Are these helpful in selecting a machine? I think most people on these forums would say "no," but how would you decide whether a particular machine is "good"?

    Here are my criteria for a good machine:
    1. It has a favorable payoff table. This is by far the most important. The other factors I list below are at least partially subjective, so you may order them differently.
    2. It is a slant top. Slant tops are easier to play for long periods than uprights or bar machines.
    3. The buttons work well.
    4. There are no heavy smokers close by, especially cigar smokers.
    5. The stool is comfortable.
    6. There are no overhead lights glaring on the screen.
    7. There are no excessively noisy reel slots close by.

    Notice there is no mention of hot or cold machines or similar comments. One time many years ago I went into the Skyline casino which had a lot of FPDW.At that time, all the machines were coin droppers, and most were uprights. It was very busy, but surprisingly there was one 25c FPDW slant top open. As I started to sit down, I found out why it was available. The guy at the adjacent machine said to me, "That one just hit the deuces." I mumbled something like "That proves they're in there," dropped in five quarters, and it DEALT me four deuces. The guy that warned me carefully ignored it as the machine very noisily counted up 1000 credits.

    So select a machine objectively, not by comments of others.
     
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  2. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Member Lineage to Founders

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    Good advice Dan. I was thinking of that story from my book about the change girl at Sam's Town. But that's too long to restate here...
     
  3. VegasGalPoker

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    Dan, I agree with you, 100% on what makes a good machine. I, of course add...don't look at the paytable. Joke, fellas, joke.
     
  4. Dan Paymar

    Dan Paymar Active Member Founding Member

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    It's undeniable that Rob Singer would agree completely with what you say was a joke. I don't think such comments are appropriate in this forum, joke or not. Safety is the only thing that is more important than a play's total expected return, including player's club and any other side benefits, calculated with sound mathematics, and it's extremely rare that safety is a concern in a casino.
     
  5. VegasGalPoker

    VegasGalPoker Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Hanging my head in shame
     
  6. Mark V

    Mark V Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    I would add:
    8. Not in a high traffic isle way.

    Some casinos stick the VP machines right at the corners where a high traffic isle way is.
     
  7. Dan Paymar

    Dan Paymar Active Member Founding Member

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    Small islands can be very crowded, but where is there a VP machine on an isle? Sorry, Mark, I couldn't resist. I agree that it's good to avoid a high traffic aisle.
     

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